The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joszef Kiprich]

Might as well call it World of Warcraft: Forbidden West.

On Azeroth that would be Forbidding West.
That sea however is east of EK.

[Reive]

I don't like this "everything is relative" approach the writers are taking. Different prospectives are nice, but a certain point you have to establish the pillars of your worldbuilding.

[Dismayxz]

I gotta say, I feel like Blizzard really should start to do more managing expectations with new xpacs. Not to kill the Speculation, otherwise we wouldn't have much to come back to here, but I can't help but feel like sometimes Expansion Concepts loose their hype very quickly after Blizzcon or even just during their Announcements, because people hyperfocus on so much shit that just isn't happening.

[Woggmer]

i actually dig it.

It was a joke, because that name is already copyrighted because of Horizon Zero Dawn: Forbidden West.

[Sondrelk]

More guard armors for old cities datamined. Will be interesting to see where those end up.

[Nymrohd]

I suppose the Green Dragons, who were the autheors on that book weren't huge fans of Aman'thul ripping out a prospective world tree and slighting "their" titan Eonar. It makes sense it that light.

Sure. And if this was a setting that allowed for nuance in communication I'd accept that.

[Reive]

I gotta say, I feel like Blizzard really should start to do more managing expectations with new xpacs. Not to kill the Speculation, otherwise we wouldn't have much to come back to here, but I can't help but feel like sometimes Expansion Concepts loose their hype very quickly after Blizzcon or even just during their Announcements, because people hyperfocus on so much shit that just isn't happening.

It's one of the downsides of having a ptr/leak seasons. they keep the interest in the game alive in times of lull but the hype for a new patch/expansion lasts way less

[Jaggler]

Sure. And if this was a setting that allowed for nuance in communication I'd accept that.

The question is, who in that case could give you the proper nuance. considering it is probably a rather old tale and Aman'thul/the other titans probably would view it very differently. That's why i said you should consider those books within their context. Aman'thul very likely didn't say "Life Bad! Order Good! Aman'thul smash!". That's why it's an in-universe book clearly written with an in-universe bias.

[Izalla]

As a Blade.

Sorry, I should have been more clear about what I meant by "there". I was building on your idea that she wasn't on/in ancient Kalimdor, not suggesting she originated from under the ocean. As in, it's entirely possible she came from somewhere other than Kalimdor because we know she was in the possession of the naga (and who knows what she told them about herself or her brothers at the time) and the naga can access anywhere via the swimming.

[Nymrohd]

More guard armors for old cities datamined. Will be interesting to see where those end up.

I think that at the very least a visual update WILL happen. If we go with the absolute minimum (visual update, very little to no changes in terrain) it can even happen slowly over the course of an expac.

[Pyrophax]

More guard armors for old cities datamined. Will be interesting to see where those end up.

So we have Forsaken, BE, NE and Dwarves new guard armour. So we need Troll, Gnome, Draenei and Goblins to full set at this point. Human and Orcs have battlefronts and from WoD they were updated.

[Reive]

It was a joke, because that name is already copyrighted because of Horizon Zero Dawn: Forbidden West.

i know. i just like the idea of an unknow and almost unreachable side of azeroth.

[Teriz]

This.
The expansion could be anything. The void could be very much an active presence in the new expansion.

It could even be the big void vs light expansion but Khaz Algar (or whatever continent it is) is the battleground. Who knows.

Keep hope alive I suppose……

There very well could be an old god presence in the next expansion (the fissure that altered the Khaz Algarians being related to Xal’atath is an interesting and plausible theory). However it is highly unlikely we’re zipping off to K’aresh, getting playable Ethereal, running around eco domes, or punching void lords in the face.

I’m quite thankful for that.

[Izalla]

And and there's vines and roots all over the place right? Especially on the ceiling.

Fifth old god covered in skulls and vines in Chronicles...

[Zers Editor]

The question is, who in that case could give you the proper nuance. considering it is probably a rather old tale and Aman'thul/the other titans probably would view it very differently. That's why i said you should consider those books within their context. Aman'thul very likely didn't say "Life Bad! Order Good! Aman'thul smash!". That's why it's an in-universe book clearly written with an in-universe bias.

May as well have him pluck that gargantuan sword out once he's back.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

More guard armors for old cities datamined. Will be interesting to see where those end up.

Interesting.

Nothing in 10.2 so far looks to be tied to any of that, maybe 10.2.5 or 10.2.7 will actually have some questline involving various races outside of dragon isles?

[Jingliu]

During the Forsaken Heritage Armor set. Immediately right after the Forsaken cleansed Lordaeron of the plague that Sylvanas left.. a giant army of the Scarlet Crusade was mounting up in Fenris Isle.

The Forsaken player did significant damage to the forces, but all of them teleported away... including 3 named NPCs
Crusader Alrick (Champion of the Scarlet Crusade)
Inquisitor Fairbell (not be confused for Inquisitor Fairbanks)
and Huntmaster Scarborgh.
These three along with large numbers of the Scarlet Crusade fled.

Though it is unknown how the Scarlet Crusade had access to Fenris Isle when the area was under the Bloodfang Pack's jurisdiction.

As for the whole Calia's child business... we still don't know, but it is a set up for the "upcoming revamp" (I say that because there are multiple hints suggesting that we're gonna go to some area to the west.)

Seems like those 3 named NPCs are just lesser versions of the ones we know, Whitemane, Houndmaster etc. Interesting.

[Jaggler]

May as well have him pluck that gargantuan sword out once he's back.

I dunno. Bad things tend to happen when Aman'thul pulls things out of Azeroth.

If I had a nickel, everytime shit happens, when Aman'thul plucks things from Azeroth, I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

Imagine if Aman'thul removed the Sword and sank Silithus, created an ocean and significantly altering the geography there. we could even have a whole expansion around it. World of Warcraft: Adventures of the Sword Coast or something similar. Rolls right off the tongue

[Joszef Kiprich]

I dunno. Bad things tend to happen when Aman'thul pulls things out of Azeroth.

If I had a nickel, everytime shit happens, when Aman'thul plucks things from Azeroth, I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

Imagine if Aman'thul removed the Sword and sank Silithus, created an ocean and significantly altering the geography there. we could even have a whole expansion around it. World of Warcraft: Adventures of the Sword Coast or something similar. Rolls right off the tongue

Come on now, you're being extremely negative now. Maybe Ol' Aman has a weird plucking fetish. Maybe he plucked all kind of stuff out of the planet. And now people still keep bringing up just the two times things didn't go exactly the way they wanted it to be. Negative Nancy's.

[Pyrophax]

Come on now, you're being extremely negative now. Maybe Ol' Aman has a weird plucking fetish. Maybe he plucked all kind of stuff out of the planet. And now people still keep bringing up just the two times things didn't go exactly the way they wanted it to be. Negative Nancy's.

To be accurate - he plucked Sargeras from Azeroth too. Its not like its a bad thing overall. 2/3 I must say.