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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    I mean how big are the dragon isles compared to the Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor for example?
    Look at this.

    Of course when I talk about revamp, I don't think about something like Cata or even WoD. I mean making zones from scratch and bigger, maybe consolidating small zones into massive and diverse Lordaeron, Stormwind, Blackrock etc. zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Interesting that this doesn't seem to extend to drakes beyond vanilla, like the Dragon Soul drake or even the Voidwing.
    Correction, it doesn't seem to extend beyond vanilla, now. It may take a while and multiple updates.
    The same thing happened with FFXIV both with NG+ before and solo mode now. Hell, the same thing will happen with the graphic updates if I recall correctly. If the intent is there, that is good.

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    You know what I really want from the new zone?

    LESS FUCKING HOCHEBLUME

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    Very surprised that no one has mentioned yet that Evokers are supposedly getting a new spec in 10.1, or at least there are a bunch of quest indicating that. I think that 10.1 will surprise us yet with many new stuff.
    No, I think its perfectly normal no one is discussion something that will 1000% not happen.

    There is no reality in which Blizzard adds an additional spec to a class mid expansion, especially unannounced.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Another thing to point out about the old world is that there isn't much going on in most zones. It'd take less resources to for example update a random zone in Kalimdor, because they're simply just less dense and less detailed in geometry. Hell, even the "empty" parts of let's say Azure Span has a ton of detail.
    I think a nice compromise would be something like Arathi Highlands back in BfA, maybe a little more, but what they did there was simply updating some of the textures of the overworld and the buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    Very surprised that no one has mentioned yet that Evokers are supposedly getting a new spec in 10.1, or at least there are a bunch of quest indicating that. I think that 10.1 will surprise us yet with many new stuff.
    Oh nah there’s no way Evokers are getting a new spec in 10.1. There would’ve been datamined spells & abilities if that were the case.

    At most we’re getting more classes for Dracthyr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Uh Demon Hunters literally had an ability called Spellbreaker.

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    I can't get over how many new armour and weapon models seem to be in 10.1. And how good so many of them look!

    Sure, the dragon theme sometimes gets a bit repetitive. But there's just... soo much good in here.

    Examples:

    - Excellent looking Artifact 2.0 weapons
    - A CHAIN MAIL SET THAT LOOKS GOOD (at least based on the icons)
    - A SCARLET CRUSADE SET
    - Tier sets which, honestly, mostly look great!
    - QUEST gear that looks god-tier!
    - Witch hunter hat!
    - Sets based around different dragon flights!
    - Emerald Dream sweapon!
    - Weapons, shields, and tabards for different races!
    - A dragonriding set!

    Now obviouisly, a lot of this is probably kept for later dates. But I love two things about it: 1, based on what we've seen, it's superb quality stuff, and 2, the scope of their designs is more than just "hurr durr latest patch theme".

    I mean just look at these images posted by Simaia:

    https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...906115/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...062144/photo/1
    Last edited by Worldshaper; 2023-03-10 at 08:48 PM.

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    Lol @ that roll of old dragon. Definitely not ready yet. Also, wake me up when I can do a roll on Mimiron's Head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Oh nah there’s no way Evokers are getting a new spec in 10.1. There would’ve been datamined spells & abilities if that were the case.

    At most we’re getting more classes for Dracthyr.
    As bonkers as it sounds, it is pretty black and white.



    During that small Evoker-only questchain we free Adamanthia, who was in charge of the Dracthyr, and was also responsible for sealing away their Black Dragonflight powers as we found out in 10.0.7



    I dunno. "New Specialization Remembered" seems... telling.

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    No way Evokers are getting a new spec without Blizzard telling us about it more up front, seems kind of unrealistic to me. Maybe eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    As bonkers as it sounds, it is pretty black and white.



    During that small Evoker-only questchain we free Adamanthia, who was in charge of the Dracthyr, and was also responsible for sealing away their Black Dragonflight powers as we found out in 10.0.7



    I dunno. "New Specialization Remembered" seems... telling.
    I don’t buy it.
    Like I said there’d be datamined spells at a minimum. And blizzard wouldn’t release a new spec without public testing first.

    Specialization could be like “oh yeah the adamant vigil specialized in subterfuge/infiltration and had unprecedented authority” and would just mean rogue and other classes are added to them.
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    Chen isn't a Monk
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Uh Demon Hunters literally had an ability called Spellbreaker.

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    This is the first PTR build of this patch, and Blizzard has shown that they can essentially hide whatever they want.

    The fact that there is a quest about freeing the Dragon in charge of the Dracthyr experiments, with the description of the quest saying that there will be a toast saying "new specialization remembered" makes it hard not to think that there is gonna be something.

    This will be the hill I will die on.

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    How would they release new spec without testing, in the middle od expansion? That is recipe for disaster when they can't even make a working spec for old classes (like ret for example).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulggun View Post
    How would they release new spec without testing, in the middle od expansion? That is recipe for disaster when they can't even make a working spec for old classes (like ret for example).
    Who's to say there's not gonna be testing?

    Once again, this is the first PTR build.

    Counterpoint: They literally just completely redesigned Ret in the middle of the expansion in a minor patch.
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    Like I said I'm all for redesign whenever necessary, regardless of the meta. Sometimes f the meta. I won't entirely discount a new spec for an existing class but I do find it......not likely but we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Take Legion for example.
    2nd to last boss was Aggramar, a huge lore figure & known Titan.
    And the last boss was Argus’ Titan. Which is something we didn’t know existed.
    I feel like players sometimes take the final boss too literally.
    Argus might have been the final boss, but the ultimate villain of Legion was Sargeras, he just made us fight Argus as his proxy.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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    While not impossible, I'll believe a completely new spec added when I see it.

    Right now this kind of reeks of dark ranger customizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    While not impossible, I'll believe a completely new spec added when I see it.

    Right now this kind of reeks of dark ranger customizations.
    I would believe this is the devs straight up trolling dataminers before I believe this is an actual new spec. Just using deliberately weird wording to aim discussion towards a new spec when it more likely means something less drastic.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    How are they pandering?
    Said person thinks Blizzard is doing the wrong thing, whatever that is. I think it was in reference to dragonriding.
    Last edited by Aeluron Lightsong; 2023-03-10 at 10:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woobels View Post
    No way Evokers are getting a new spec without Blizzard telling us about it more up front, seems kind of unrealistic to me. Maybe eventually.
    Nothing stops Blizzard from doing it, and it would be huge news that could help them drive up interest and sales.

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