The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

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I'm still peeved they canceled Warcraft GO

[Ersula]

That one also claimed "Dragonflight Covenants". I don't remember if that came before or after dracthyr was solved in scaleface's riddle, but it could've been piecing things together from that.

I mean, when they announced Dragonflight they referred to it as "pledging allegiance to each of the dragonflights" and the renown system is just the covenant renown system. The only way the flights are not covenants is that you advance all of them at the same time.

[huth]

I mean, when they announced Dragonflight they referred to it as "pledging allegiance to each of the dragonflights" and the renown system is just the covenant renown system. The only way the flights are not covenants is that you advance all of them at the same time.

You mean aside from the tiny snag that you don't actually advance with any of them, since they just have one singular renown track for Valdrakken?

[ro9ue]

The Netflix leak is interesting to me ( even tho its more then likely fake) because blizz really has the chance to put wow back on the spot with moves such as
- easily consumable netflix show that introduces people to the wow lore
- mobile game to get more people into the warcraft gaming universe
- graphical old world revamp to bring most of wow into the new modern day
-wow releasing on console a huge part of the gaming market is still console only
-wow sub in game pass, even if its just 1-3 months would be great way to introduce people

All this with a hard focus on the 20th year anniversary could really give wow the appeal it really needs to become a household name like it was from 2005-2016

I think its interesting in a lot of the Metzen official news, they used "Warcraft" and not World of Warcraft a lot more. Not sure getting people into WoW is the end game like it used to be, I think they just want to flesh out the IP with more content and genres.

[Ferlion]

The difference is that Toweliee isn’t random, and has more skin in the game than those throwaway accounts. He also hasn’t backed down since making his initial assertion.

Again if you line the clues up you have underground and you have storm. That’s earth and wind. We’re simply missing Fire and Water clues at this point, and whatever Fryakk is doing with the fire lands may take care of that aspect.

Then we have Thrall on the key art; a shaman representing the elements, so IMO we’re still moving in that general direction until more clues come along.

I mean... With respect to Toweliee. There is literally zero reason to believe that he has any inside information. Or that if he does, it's even close to accurate. I was given information for WoD that came straight from an active employee at Blizzard, before it got leaked (because I told someone). It was only similar in shades. Their security has only gotten better, I'm sure.

More, do we think this is real? Because that's Toweliee saying "Well, shit". Or does he not have knowledge of classic so he's just going off a rumor.



Cuz like, World of Warcraft Awakening is a meme. It's been used for every leak cycle since at least WoD.

What I mean to say is, it's very possible that he has inside information of some sort. It's also more than possible he's just trolling. But even if he does have it, That doesn't mean it's accurate. And saying that doesn't even mean he's lying.

Right or wrong, don't get so hung up on what he says is right or not. Blizzard's a big company, and even the people inside the company ain't got all the information.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...yond-the-Storm

This leak is pretty cool for a non-revamp one. Doubt they would say the final boss this early though.

I kinda like this. What gives me pause is changing subtlety to ranged. Ion said in an interview that they didn't want to change existing specs to support. I imagine they wouldn't want another Survival Hunter situation either.

[Ersula]

You mean aside from the tiny snag that you don't actually advance with any of them, since they just have one singular renown track for Valdrakken?

But there are blue dragonriding rewards for the Tuskarr rep, Green dragonriding rewards for the Centaur, etc. I think its a high possibility they started designing them as one for each flight then changed it to the associated cultural group.

I mean... With respect to Toweliee. There is literally zero reason to believe that he has any inside information. Or that if he does, it's even close to accurate. I was given information for WoD that came straight from an active employee at Blizzard, before it got leaked (because I told someone). It was only similar in shades. Their security has only gotten better, I'm sure.

That everyone's leak images are now at a dutch angle is very funny.

[Mysticdoll]

I think its interesting in a lot of the Metzen official news, they used "Warcraft" and not World of Warcraft a lot more. Not sure getting people into WoW is the end game like it used to be, I think they just want to flesh out the IP with more content and genres.

Wow an very possibility Warcraft rumble are still gonna be the biggest cash cows from the Warcraft universe compared to a any series movies or single player games

[Teriz]

Right or wrong, don't get so hung up on what he says is right or not. Blizzard's a big company, and even the people inside the company ain't got all the information.

Well again I’ll state that I never said that what Toweliee hinted at is definitively going to happen. I simply said that it’s the strongest leak we have outside of the other clues we’ve gotten, and he isn’t a sock puppet account posting a chatpt leak. That was the assertion made by the person I was responding to.

[Jingliu]

I'm still peeved they canceled Warcraft GO

Me too. I like the idea of coming home after work and finding Maiev in my bedroom.

[Catastrophy349]

I sense that the copium tanks are reaching record low levels. Time to fill up!

[Ferlion]

I sense that the copium tanks are reaching record low levels. Time to fill up!

It's a time for celebration!

For speculation, just because, let's assume it is an "underground" expansion as a springboard for ideas.

How would we feel about it being a giant Titan facility, with different biomes and such. It's a giant chamber designed by the Titans to stabilize the elements since Azeroth was devouring all the Spirit and dying as a result.

[Woggmer]

I think its interesting in a lot of the Metzen official news, they used "Warcraft" and not World of Warcraft a lot more. Not sure getting people into WoW is the end game like it used to be, I think they just want to flesh out the IP with more content and genres.

I mean WoW also has to share the spotlight with Warcraft Rumble and (to a lesser extent) Hearthstone. Though if they want to do a single player game (Not specifically an RTS Warcraft 4) more power to them...

But one can only hope it doesn't end up like what happened with Warcraft 3 Reforged.

[Merryck]

The underground gimmick should just be delegated to patch zones.

[Catastrophy349]

I'll be honest, the Dragon Isles really spoiled me in terms of grandeur and design. The atmosphere of the Isles feels so good from the verticality, to the weather, biomes, and everything in between. I really hope that the next expansion can capture that (I don't want to feel like the world is severely decreased in size).

[Ferlion]

thought in relation to the "sky captain" stuff, what if the next extension took place in the sky? you know, a bit like Bioshock Infinite or Laputa (castle in the sky) with flying machines and ships?

Sky Dwarves, and instead of gryphons they use little helicopter hats to get around.

[Catastrophy349]

thought in relation to the "sky captain" stuff, what if the next extension took place in the sky? you know, a bit like Bioshock Infinite or Laputa (castle in the sky) with flying machines and ships?

As I mentioned earlier, a "sky" expansion would be SO awesome. However, considering we had a flying update in Dragonflight AND the expansion is literally about dragons, would feel odd if the next expansion captured flying/the sky better than DF could.

[Izalla]

Sky Dwarves, and instead of gryphons they use little helicopter hats to get around.

You joke but I would totally love one of those for my gnome.

[Catastrophy349]

"Sky continent" is definitely on my top 3 list.

[Merryck]

Dragonflight should've been the sky isles expansion.