They would not need to send expeditions for a lake in a zone we have gotten to actually as players do quests as a Titan Keeper in.
Also using your own brain, as a metatextual observer of the game world and not reading the text from a literal in-game perspective, we have others books in this expansion, across patches, seeding out other lands distant from Kalimdor with little Titan influence. They're doing this for a reason and not just to also have one be actually Lordearon.
Elune is a weird one. "Sister of the Winter Queen". As in opposite counterpart? Sure, that would be Life. What about sister as in adjacent? We have a ton of magic spells associated with her that use Arcane (moonkin Elune's Chosen and Scythe of Elune) and Light (moonlight). The Night Warrior blessing is definitely some dark void or death shit.
Xal'atath calls her an "upstart goddess" in adversarial/mocking tone. That means she rose to a higher status or climbed the god ranks in some way, likely pissing off a few other deities in the process. I bet Elune is a bit of a rebel who broke several norms/rules, getting her into trouble with the other gods. Because of her wide range of magical blessings, my guess is she experimented with other cosmic forces (even if she was originally a life goddess, she picked up some void, light or arcane). This combination made her much more powerful... and made her a lot of enemies.
I think we'll come to find out there was a conflict resulting in her being betrayed or subdued, and since we know she still blesses her followers occasionally, she's not dead. But we also know she was MIA during things like Teldrassil.
That tells me she's either a super gray character, she's indifferent, or she's busy.... she's trying to but can't. I think the Tears of Elune and The Sister's Tear suggest she's under some sort of duress, so wanting to help but unable is the correct answer. So she's trapped or imprisoned somewhere. All of her followers think the source of her power comes from the moon. Her symbol is the moon. I bet if we go there (11.3?), we'll find her sealed inside.
Yes, this 100 time. We dont need disaster as SL ever again. And I am not talking about gameplay or expansion as whole.
That idea of exploring realms different from ours, making Afterlife another continent at Azeroth. *spit*
Before expansion it was some unknown place that we interacted only briefly. Same should be sone with other planes and Zereths (despite my likings, its canon now).
Visit to talk with dead characters or Archon? Sure. Maybe dungeon akin Tazavesh is good too. But full expac? Hell no.
Imagine Gardens of Life expansion. It will be SL all over again. We should not have a full access of Universe "backgrounds" like that. It kill all excitement of it, any mistery that left in WoW.
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Please no. After full patch in there. It like after Argus we come to Twisting Nether to fight demons again.
Uhhhhhhhhhhh
that sounds a lot like....
Thus, Aman'Thul, the Highfather himself, reached down through Azeroth's skies and heaved the Old God from the surface of the world. At that moment, the massive bulk of the Old One was ripped apart, and its death rattle caused entire mountains to shatter and hundreds of titan-forged to be instantly obliterated where they stood.[8]
Aman'Thul had inadvertently ripped open a wound in Azeroth's surface, and the world-soul's arcane lifeblood flowed to the surface. It was then that the Pantheon realized that the Old Gods had entrenched themselves too deep to excise without destroying Azeroth itself, and instead they resolved to imprison the remaining three Old Gods rather than killing them outright.
Moon dwarves are worming their way back into my brain with all of this "Underground Tree" thing. It's supposedly named after Elune, planted by Eonar, and received strange guardians that arrived at a later date. And we have what were they, Earthen (?), Leaving the Titan Keepers to go, what we presume is West, to then also evolve in a similar way to the curse of flesh.
Moon Dwarves can only mean Dwarf Druids, which I've been dreaming of for like a decade.
Which is precisely why I said earlier there are reasons that Avaloren/Lordearon don't fit.
I'm just saying overall, it's certainly possible that Avaloren was someplace on Kalimdor and the Titans were rejected. While it gets a bit iffy with timeframes, the Vykrul were already starting to turn against the Titans some 15,000 years ago. It's reasonable to think it happened with other groups.
Fortunately, we know that Avaloren predates that because Odyn was free and still Prime delegate according to the text Avaloren is introduced in. And again, as I said before, there's the "Tyrguard" thing not fitting with Heretics.
But on a more serious note, I think back in legion, Helheim stuff did it right when it comes to visiting a mysterious place for a questline and not exploit it to the last inch that it doesn't feel like nothing anymore, like shadowlands did.
When they will be doing one of these very cosmic themes again, life or death or whatever they should look in that direction instead of the maw for example.
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Agree, even fine with something like Emerald Nightmare the raid. Just give us a snippet.
Setting up a town with mailboxes, banks and vendors in the realm of death just seems ridiculous to me. If we're there, it should feel somewhat uncomfortable and alien, and we don't want to be there long.
It was a small but smart dose of exploration that still kept stuff somewhat mysterious and wanting to explore it more in the future maybe if occasion happens.
It was tied to a questline that with right amount of time kept you interested while not exploiting the theme to the last bone.
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We also didn't exactly exhaust the idea of the Shadowlands that was written, as much as I hate to say it. We didn't exactly answer every question brought up to us while there and we saw like 4 domains of the afterlife + the Maw and some distant mysterious shit brought into it (Korthia). Then Zereth Mortis, which was a supposedly a BIG thing in lifting the veil of mystery, but it threw open as many questions as we got answers and at a time where people were already so over Shadowlands. Come to think of it, while we saw MORE and DEEPER than what we were used to seeing of these mysteries of the Universe, we didn't exactly do much in the way of throwing every door open and checking under every carpet.
Edit: And one of it's villains is still MIA in his little Sword-carried-away-by-dreadlord private jet.
I do think that Shadowlands would have been better received had we got afterlives. Even if just small scenario type events, we should have seen themed afterlives that were non-critical.
Yeah and you see "tease" is the right word for that kind of stuff, at least to me.
These somewhat very "big" and mysterious themes should just be more like teases in some direction where we put our hands on some questlines here and then.
While we didn't excatly saw everything about shadowlands/afterlives, the way they made the expansion, made me personally very exhausted of it and created a feeling of exploitation to the last bone.
Opinions will vary, i think in the future this kind of stuff should just be related to some questlines and maybe a expansion ending major zone.
There's a little more to it than that.
Not only is Denathrius coming back along with his Dreadlords, but the fact that the Life Realms are confirmed also confirms that someone close to Elune is a Nathrezim agent.
There's one other enemy that we never fully dealt with in Shadowlands, an enemy that can exist in both Death and Nature: The Drust. We were going to deal with them in the Shadowlands in a raid, but it was cut during the whole lawsuit stuff... so if they do Life Lands, there is a good chance the Drust will make a return and we'd have to deal with them again.
I'm not sure we answered any questions at all there. As someone not violently opposed to the cosmic stuff that was my biggest gripe. They set up a heap of potentially cool questions then were like 'ok we're done here lol' and left all the questions unanswered. That and everyone is a robot, suddenly.