The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Merryck]

This looks like a classic map. It'd be cool if they revamped the world map into a 3D globe that you could spin around ... cool on paper.

[Worldshaper]

Not even remotely?

What does a place with the last traces of Xal'atath's former existence have to do with your absurd headcanon about a second elemental expansion, the void storyline ending in 11.0, 11.0 being a direct sequel even though every single connection we have so far suggests it's entirely its own thing following in the tradition of MoP, not DF or Cata, an Hour of Twilight that you somehow missed happened already in BfA, and the idea that 11.0 is going to be the end of Cosmic stuff even though we've gotten nothing but indications that cosmic stuff is here to stay?

I can't blame you for not reading my posts, since they can get lengthy and repetitive at times.

But the idea that the fissure is caused by Xal'atath's body as the 5th Old God, is something I've been arguing ad nausea for at least a couple of months now.

My overarching theory is that there's a narrative pattern, leading to the Hour of Twilight in 11.0, that's true. But the way we get there is with 'A Song of the Depths', Xal'atath, Azshara, and Iridikron. The thing being awakened is likely either Xal'atath, the world-soul, the Ancient One, or a Void Lord.

All the elemental stuff, which is still relevant, is basically filler to make it more interesting. Just "VOID" would be awful. They're bringing it over from Cataclysm, but it is logical to have in an expansion about the fundament of Azeroth, the Titans, the Old Gods, etc.

[ChairmanKaga]

With Metzen back in creative reigns, we will never be going to spend an entire expansion in horrendously stupid shit like the Life Lands ever again. If you luck out, maybe, maaaybe a raid or throwaway dungeon.

The fact that we have people actually asking for this speaks to just how stupid most of the WoW fanbase even is.

If they did something remotely as interesting in WoW as Planescape I wouldn't mind the cosmic planar stuff but Shadowlands really killed any potential enthusiasm.

[Pheraz]

Just a reminder that the eternal ones are robots.
And if sister means really sister then elune is a robot too. Unimaginable what stupid ideas flew into SLs arcs.

Those new book hints are very interesting though. Maybe they find a way out of this SL chaos with new good stories

[Merryck]

So who ripped Xal'atath from her impact crater? The Titans seem unlikely, since they realised how damaging it was for Azeroth when they ripped Y'Shaarj from the planet. Maybe the other Old Gods did it?

[Viridiel]

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

that sounds a lot like....


Thus, Aman'Thul, the Highfather himself, reached down through Azeroth's skies and heaved the Old God from the surface of the world. At that moment, the massive bulk of the Old One was ripped apart, and its death rattle caused entire mountains to shatter and hundreds of titan-forged to be instantly obliterated where they stood.[8]

Aman'Thul had inadvertently ripped open a wound in Azeroth's surface, and the world-soul's arcane lifeblood flowed to the surface. It was then that the Pantheon realized that the Old Gods had entrenched themselves too deep to excise without destroying Azeroth itself, and instead they resolved to imprison the remaining three Old Gods rather than killing them outright.

I did have a tinfoil hat moment reading it that maybe the Well of Eternity is being retconned again and it's actually the crater of Elun'Ahir, and Y'Shaarj is actually Xal'atath. The "mysterious guardians" are the Night Elves. It would explain a million different things about the Well of Eternity, Elune, and life on Azeroth, I'm just not sure a second retelling of the truth of the Well would be accepted by players.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah. The gist is "Eonar planted a world tree somewhere, Aman'thul didn't approve, called it chaotic, tore it out. It still lived on but grew in a strange way." We don't know if they held council meetings, had sit downs, or anything.

I think the implication is that it grew underground, which would lead to some kind of Hollow Earth thing.

This, very much so. A solid way to explain having a massive Hollow Earth forest zone.

[Merryck]

Isn't it weird how generic Zereth Mortis looks? Nothing about it looks deathly. If we go to the other Zereths, heaven forbid, they better look distinct.

[Ferlion]

Just a reminder that the eternal ones are robots.
And if sister means really sister then elune is a robot too. Unimaginable what stupid ideas flew into SLs arcs.

Those new book hints are very interesting though. Maybe they find a way out of this SL chaos with new good stories

No.

The Eternal Ones being robots is extremely oversimplified . This is a stupid meme.

The Eternal Ones are souls placed into artificial vessels. In the realm of death.

The Titans are planets. But we don't call them Elementals, despite, you know, them being made of metal and stone and planets.

What is true in one realm isn't true in all

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I didn't read every page because there were so many since yesterday, but i guess general consensus now is that we're going somewhere through the dangerous sea and storms which noone was able to ship through?

[Lahis]

Everything points to it being west of Kalimdor.

Blizzard adds it next to EK just to be petty.

[Well Done Steak]

So if the Titans come back next exp then that means illidan to. Wonder what they have planned

[Pyrophax]

Dall-E surely helps visualise that
Saw at X that that crater from WT can be where we have Ungoro now. Its Ungoro CRATER after all. That explains dwarven (titan) ruin of Bael Modan there. Its just an entrance to Cave of Elun'Ahir and there is lost dwarven settlement of Khaz'Algar. That would be some mindblowing discovery!

[lostsoup]

I didn't read every page because there were so many since yesterday, but i guess general consensus now is that we're going somewhere through the dangerous sea and storms which noone was able to ship through?

It's looking like the Bermuda leak is real

[Holdodlig]

It's looking like the Bermuda leak is real

What is the bermuda leak

[Worldshaper]

The silent, sleeping, staring houses in the backwoods always dream... It would be merciful to tear them down...
There is a little lamb lost in dark woods...
Look around... They will all betray you... Flee screaming into the black forest...
The giant rook watches from the dead trees. Nothing breathes beneath his shadow.
Beneath the shadow of the darkened spire, there is no light, no mercy, only void, and the chaos within.
Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it.
Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below.
From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength.
In the sunken city, he lays dreaming.
Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path.
At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming.
The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green.

I'm willing to bet at least 50% of these refer to the current story we've got going with Dragonflight and 11.0.

Just spitballing, but maybe Eonar's heart is figuratively a crater since Aman'Thul tore the tree down, and the location of the tree's roots is a literal crater. She's been consumed by ill thoughts, and the crater has (in two ways) been filled by the Void?

Maybe that's what's underneath the fissure, IDK. Some type of hollow earth where life flourishes, but it is an amalgamation of Life/Order/Shadow. If the Old Gods have tapped into that life-giving power, it could be the reason they were able to create the Curse of Flesh perhaps.

[Myrrh]

So who ripped Xal'atath from her impact crater? The Titans seem unlikely, since they realised how damaging it was for Azeroth when they ripped Y'Shaarj from the planet. Maybe the other Old Gods did it?

It's been a while since I read the knaifu quotes from Legion, but iirc I think she hinted that her brethren basically consumed her, rather than the full on parasitic tick removal that Aman'thul did.

It's looking like the Bermuda leak is real

Pressing x to doubt here. I like that one, but I think it's more like it's one of the few viable 'leaks' remaining based on current information, rather than it looking real. It's been known for a while that getting to Avaloren was perilous, so it would be very easy to accidentally write a 'leak' that captures the whole 'storming sea' business.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

It's looking like the Bermuda leak is real

I forgot which one was it, can you link it?

Also i know i already mentioned it but these 2 sky-captain coat sets sound more and more plausible for expansion bundle transmog or blizzcon goodies.

Towelliee said that we have to find another way to travel or something like that - so no by boats, but gryphons and sky ships, with gryphon storm riders on the sides, defending the sky ships + being navigators.

[Pheraz]

No.

The Eternal Ones being robots is extremely oversimplified . This is a stupid meme.

The Eternal Ones are souls placed into artificial vessels. In the realm of death.

The Titans are planets. But we don't call them Elementals, despite, you know, them being made of metal and stone and planets.

What is true in one realm isn't true in all

That would be okay for me, but what about the "sister" part? Soul Sisters?

[Myrrh]

I forgot which one was it, can you link it?

This will be my only post.

World Soul:
-Avaloren is the "Bermuda Triangle" of Azeroth.
-Each zone has a surface half and an underground half. Underground is not like Zaralek, there are many different biomes like Journey to the Center of the Earth.
-Player housing ONLY in Avaloren. Different professions make different furniture and decorations via work order system.
-Some classes get new support specs like Bard Rogue and Gladiator Warrior, which uses shouts and banners to "hype up the crowd (raid)."
-Pre-order bonus unlocks all classes for dracthyr in future patch (10.2.7) except DK and DH. They start in Exile's Reach.
-Undermine Dungeon with Gallywix is in the pre-expansion event.
-Besides Algar dwarves there's a human kingdom with similar origins.
-There's also a race of ant people called myrmid/myrmin (not sure of the spelling). There are good black ants we ally with and evil fire ants who are the first raid.

That's all I know. Can't say how for obvious reasons.

Title remains a hmm factor.