1. #24161
    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Any readers between the lines here? I think this is the subtle hint on Yrel coming back.
    Light is Bad expansion bros, we are so back!

    Holy stretch batman! It's just someone happy that they got their artprint again.

    Could it be connected? Sure
    Is it probably? Probably not

    I am getting slightly frustrated with the constanrt headcanon with some people.

    Stop seeing every falling leaf as a hint, and just think logically.

    Sometimes, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck. It most probably is a duck. Not an expansion hint

  2. #24162
    Quote Originally Posted by lanerios View Post
    Holy stretch batman! It's just someone happy that they got their artprint again.

    Could it be connected? Sure
    Is it probably? Probably not

    I am getting slightly frustrated with the constanrt headcanon with some people.

    Stop seeing every falling leaf as a hint, and just think logically.

    Sometimes, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck. It most probably is a duck. Not an expansion hint
    i mean it's the expansion announcement season, everything is mentioned and taken as hints, it's part of the charm

  3. #24163
    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Any readers between the lines here? I think this is the subtle hint on Yrel coming back.
    Light is Bad expansion bros, we are so back!

    This is not reading between the lines, this is paranoia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    i mean it's the expansion announcement season, everything is mentioned and taken as hints, it's part of the charm
    Sorry but this is such a stretch Mr. Fantastic would be jealous. You entered Gear Fifth and now it's no longer just stretching, it's just fantasy.

  4. #24164
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    This is not reading between the lines, this is paranoia.

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    Sorry but this is such a stretch Mr. Fantastic would be jealous. You entered Gear Fifth and now it's no longer just stretching, it's just fantasy.
    I like fantasy.

  5. #24165
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    This is the first I'm hearing of it. Is there any proof to back that up?
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    This one too, though admittedly there's no confirmation it's the same place:

  6. #24166
    Quote Originally Posted by Nebron View Post
    Has it ever been clarified that "having Kalimdor too far away from Maelstrom" was the reason for "fix"? Because, if that's the explanation, it's even more sus, since the map looks even more asymetrical and I always believed that the suggestion was that distance between Maelstrom and both Kalimdor and EK was roughly equal. Now, that they "fixed" it, it's way off.
    Does it need a clarification? Not many players pay attention to small details like opening up the world map and picking a continent like that. So Blizz doesn't need to justify a clarification for accidentally putting Kalimdor "a little too far to the left" or a have that big gap between the edge of Kalimdor.

    And if Blizz wanted to add more continents, there's big space on the north of Kalimdor and to the left of Northrend same way they added the Dragon Isles.. or they could've added one to that BIG space between the Eastern Kingdoms and Pandaria?

  7. #24167
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
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    I think the point is that there's no proof because ZyntosAran said that it's "no longer speculation". Nothing of that is proof. It's "only" strongly supporting the theory.
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    So, what would be your reaction, if you found out, that come cata release first patch, blizzard were planning to kill everyone by sending a bear through the mail?

  8. #24168
    Quote Originally Posted by Samin View Post
    I think the point is that there's no proof because ZyntosAran said that it's "no longer speculation". Nothing of that is proof. It's "only" strongly supporting the theory.
    We are given a quote from Tyr that something does lie in the West.

  9. #24169
    Odyn will likely play the major part in screwing things up (allowing the Void to corrupt the roots), considering how determined he was with reaching this place.

    "The Lord of Ravens will turn the key". Odyn is based on Odin - who is also called "the Lord of Ravens".

  10. #24170
    Quote Originally Posted by Samin View Post
    I think the point is that there's no proof because ZyntosAran said that it's "no longer speculation". Nothing of that is proof. It's "only" strongly supporting the theory.
    It doesn't make any sense at all, because according to the Chronicles.. even before the Ordering when the Old Gods ruled.. there wasn't anything else beyond west. After the Ordering, Kalimdor was still the same shape and size. There's still nothing there.

    It's either one of few things.
    A. It's not actually west of Kalimdor but actually West of Northrend and is above Kalimdor.
    B. It's west of the Dragon Isles.
    or
    C. It IS actually west of Kalimdor and the Chronicles lied and can't be trusted anymore because it's Titan propaganda.

  11. #24171
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
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    This one too, though admittedly there's no confirmation it's the same place:
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    Wait a minute? So there are even dragons there as well?
    Are we sure this isn't just 10.3, and that the Algarian Stormrider is a hint the Dwarves there come to meet the other Dwarves?
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    Odyn will likely play the major part in screwing things up (allowing the Void to corrupt the roots), considering how determined he was with reaching this place.

    "The Lord of Ravens will turn the key". Odyn is based on Odin - who is also called "the Lord of Ravens".
    Medivh was also Lord of the ravens.

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    Just viewed the wowhead article for the boomkin customization. Few thoughts.
    1) gorgeous!!
    2) still secretly hoping for Flame druid spell customization hidden somewhere or as a drop from the flame druid boss in the raid (going to go ahead and guess they've got a slew of fire druid spells given the DotF presence, and one of the boomkin skins is a flame one).
    3) lol at the people in the comments losing their minds asking for feral/bear customization of this caliber, when feral/bears got 5 forms with 4 colourations each in Legion while boomies have gotten basically nothing until now besides a slight graphical update on the boomkin model a few years back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    It doesn't make any sense at all, because according to the Chronicles.. even before the Ordering when the Old Gods ruled.. there wasn't anything else beyond west. After the Ordering, Kalimdor was still the same shape and size. There's still nothing there.

    It's either one of few things.
    A. It's not actually west of Kalimdor but actually West of Northrend and is above Kalimdor.
    B. It's west of the Dragon Isles.
    or
    C. It IS actually west of Kalimdor and the Chronicles lied and can't be trusted anymore because it's Titan propaganda.
    I think it was already obvious C, especially after all those Shadowlands shenanigans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    It doesn't make any sense at all, because according to the Chronicles.. even before the Ordering when the Old Gods ruled.. there wasn't anything else beyond west. After the Ordering, Kalimdor was still the same shape and size. There's still nothing there.

    It's either one of few things.
    A. It's not actually west of Kalimdor but actually West of Northrend and is above Kalimdor.
    B. It's west of the Dragon Isles.
    or
    C. It IS actually west of Kalimdor and the Chronicles lied and can't be trusted anymore because it's Titan propaganda.
    They already said that the Chronicles are titan pov propaganda, atleast for the early history stuff in it.

  16. #24176
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    It doesn't make any sense at all, because according to the Chronicles.. even before the Ordering when the Old Gods ruled.. there wasn't anything else beyond west. After the Ordering, Kalimdor was still the same shape and size. There's still nothing there.

    It's either one of few things.
    A. It's not actually west of Kalimdor but actually West of Northrend and is above Kalimdor.
    B. It's west of the Dragon Isles.
    or
    C. It IS actually west of Kalimdor and the Chronicles lied and can't be trusted anymore because it's Titan propaganda.
    The Chronicles NEVER explicitly state that Kalimdor is the only continent. Check it again

  17. #24177
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    It doesn't make any sense at all, because according to the Chronicles.. even before the Ordering when the Old Gods ruled.. there wasn't anything else beyond west. After the Ordering, Kalimdor was still the same shape and size. There's still nothing there.

    It's either one of few things.
    A. It's not actually west of Kalimdor but actually West of Northrend and is above Kalimdor.
    B. It's west of the Dragon Isles.
    or
    C. It IS actually west of Kalimdor and the Chronicles lied and can't be trusted anymore because it's Titan propaganda.
    "The Chronicles are written from a Titan centric POV" isn't new information.

    The titans obviously don't want that landmass/place etc. to be known. So they also didn't inculde it in their chronicles.

  18. #24178
    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    I think it was already obvious C, especially after all those Shadowlands shenanigans.
    IIrc Blizzard explicitly said Chronicles was written from thepoint of view of the Titans and their followers, so it wasn't 100% reliable information

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    Just learned about the Elun'ahir thing. The implications about Elune and Eonar's relationship now explains in retrospect why Eonar has the Tear of Elune.
    "We will soon be in a world in which a man may be howled down for saying that two and two make four."
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  20. #24180
    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    It doesn't make any sense at all, because according to the Chronicles.. even before the Ordering when the Old Gods ruled.. there wasn't anything else beyond west. After the Ordering, Kalimdor was still the same shape and size. There's still nothing there.

    It's either one of few things.
    A. It's not actually west of Kalimdor but actually West of Northrend and is above Kalimdor.
    B. It's west of the Dragon Isles.
    or
    C. It IS actually west of Kalimdor and the Chronicles lied and can't be trusted anymore because it's Titan propaganda.
    You are forgetting one thing from the get go. The Titans and by extension the Titan Keepers, through the new Books on the PTR don't want anyone going west past the Storming Sea. Chronicles has been confirmed to be written in Titan PoV. So an encyclopedia of Lore written from a biased perspective, especially one biased against the existence of any "West" would... quite literally not want to tell you about said West. Even though we now have at least 2 recently added little tidbits that talk about the Western Storms and what lies West. And one thing from Uldaman that basically namedrops a place named "Avaloren", which by Chronicle's Map I'd have a hard time even fitting anywhere we wouldn't have come across it eventually or heard about it.

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