The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Yus atath]

The Fifth Old God being wrapped up in vines/roots now makes a lot more sense IMO.

Hold on

/10char

[Alanar]

Because Cenarius and all the dryads and keepers of the grove pretty much come from them. Isn't that why the look like Night Elves in the top half of their bodies?

I was just wondering why Malorne matters realy, we have seen him once in Cata and he wasnt perse interesting..

But what you said makes sense, but with that makes elune an elf? Other half. Idk if thats the origin.

[Nightshade711]

We got leaks of N'Zoth's influence before BFA was announced. There were some cultists datamined during Legion that had N'Zoth tentacles on their robes. N'Zoth and Azshara were also showcased at the announcement, and of course we saw both in the Warbringers cinematic.

You’re talking about the cloth leveling set that was datamined in 7.3.
There weren’t any NPCs attached to it and the set wasn’t inherently N’zoth - as even the tidesages that were anti-N’zoth still wore it.

[Xilurm]

Would it be a retcon if they weren't literal lovers? Like the way the Judeo-Christian God "loved" the Virgin Mary so he impregnated her.

So, you know, Cenarius was the result of deer mpreg.

Well I'm not asking for them to be doing the deed, even though in mythology that ain't that crazy. But Elune should be his mother, doesn't matter how she gave life to him as long as she did.

[Worldshaper]

Blizz: "Okay, let's get back to the basics. STORM DWARVES on LIGHTNING GRYPHONS."

People speculating on MMO-Champion: "Okay, so how can we connect this to the worst parts of Warcraft lore, the Zereths and the First Ones, and just turn it all into poo? Is Elune dating Eonar? :3"

[flan1337]

The Fifth Old God being wrapped up in vines/roots now makes a lot more sense IMO.

Where did you get this???

Edit: I feel like we might get a capital city HD revamp https://www.wowhead.com/news/forsake...auldron-335256

[Valkorion1337]

Give me Human Shaman lol I want to stare and laugh manacically at monitor like Darth Sidious. I even have name "Sidious" saved if they do add it

[Ersula]

Blizz: "Okay, let's get back to the basics. STORM DWARVES on LIGHTNING GRYPHONS."

People speculating on MMO-Champion: "Okay, so how can we connect this to the worst parts of Warcraft lore, the Zereths and the First Ones, and just turn it all into poo? Is Elune dating Eonar? :3"

People seem to hate that lore a lot more now than during Shadowlands. At that point it was mostly hating Sylvanas.

But I want everyone to ask themselves, was it really the lore itself that was the problem, or was the real problem that covid made the exposition more kurt & rushed than it would have been under normal development circumstances?

Give me Human Shaman lol I want to stare and laugh manacically at monitor like Darth Sidious. I even have name "Sidious" saved if they do add it

Given all the hoops Malfurion had to jump through, for thousands of years, to become a druid, I always think its funny that currently, more human subraces can be druids than elves.

[pacotaco]

"At these far reaches, I felt the presence of entities whose power seemed vast and unknowable, akin to the titans themselves.
Had I reached the edges of the Dream where it flows into the Realms of Life? Are they one and the same? Truly, I cannot say, for as waves of joy and contentment washed over me, I could no longer resist the call of sleep.
I awoke back at the Eye of Ysera, wondering if I had experienced a dream within the Dream."

OOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOHOHOHOOOOO

YOOOO!!!!! I did say the Dream was either Elune's realm, or a realm that was fundamentally linked to Elune's realm or the greater Plane of Life!!! I am happy to know it was likely the latter!!!

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Ahahahaha!!!! I fucking love Blizzard!!!

"Shadowlands stuff is being retconned btw" "Post SL Blizzard is gonna change everything" Y'all are in the dirt!!! Screw that! Domain of Life confirmed!!!

Yeah, I also said (I think in this same thread) the moment I saw Nymue the Emeral Dream started to give me the feeling of being the same as the elemental planes: a Titan constructed plane to contain Life.

[Jingliu]

Give me Human Shaman lol I want to stare and laugh manacically at monitor like Darth Sidious. I even have name "Sidious" saved if they do add it

Human or Vrykul Shamans and I am changing main for good to that.

[Izalla]

We got leaks of N'Zoth's influence before BFA was announced. There were some cultists datamined during Legion that had N'Zoth tentacles on their robes. N'Zoth and Azshara were also showcased at the announcement, and of course we saw both in the Warbringers cinematic.

A few things being leaked before an announcement, and then more things being revealed at an announcement, in no way make a point that the few leaked things we know before an announcement exclude anything. That makes about as much sense as saying "the next expansion is surely about dragons, so I guess we still won't see ducks added to the game." Silly example but the point is we can't say what won't be in an expansion, until we know what that expansion even is. And even after the announcement we will still find out a crap load of new, unannounced info when data mining it begins. There could be a heavy void plotline before the end, a little void throughout, or no void at all. But we can't rule anything out right now.

And I'm done arguing this point nowbbecause I refuse to be sucked into THAT void with you.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I go to sleep a few hours, I come back and now Eonar and Elune are dating wooooooooooooooooooooooh

[Jingliu]

Having just watched the Ahsoka finale. I really wish WoW would have a villain like Thrawn. Someone who isn't a threat at all in a physical fight, all about the mental game, strategy and such. I think it could be a very refreshing change of pace from "rawr I am mad, I am gonna destroy the world, mortal fools rawr" we get every expansion.

[Worldshaper]

People seem to hate that lore a lot more now than during Shadowlands. At that point it was mostly hating Sylvanas.

But I want everyone to ask themselves, was it really the lore itself that was the problem, or was the real problem that covid made the exposition more kurt & rushed than it would have been under normal development circumstances?

It's a good question, but I lean on the side of "the lore itself was bad".

It simply overexposed what's divine in the Warcraft universe. It undermined what came before it by "one-upping" everything, from Northrend and the Lich King to the old World Trees, the role of Death, the Scourge, the Titans, and lots more.

[pacotaco]

So..

IT now has to be asked. What do the Halls of Origination do then?

It was stated from the beginning: eradicates very life form on the planet and let's new life start again, with the Dream was supposed to be the seed/blueprint of that new life.

[Teriz]

Blizz: "Okay, let's get back to the basics. STORM DWARVES on LIGHTNING GRYPHONS."

People speculating on MMO-Champion: "Okay, so how can we connect this to the worst parts of Warcraft lore, the Zereths and the First Ones, and just turn it all into poo? Is Elune dating Eonar? :3"

It appears that some posters here are desperate for another disastrous cosmic expansion.

Why? I have no idea.

[milkmustache]

Having just watched the Ahsoka finale. I really wish WoW would have a villain like Thrawn. Someone who isn't a threat at all in a physical fight, all about the mental game, strategy and such. I think it could be a very refreshing change of pace from "rawr I am mad, I am gonna destroy the world, mortal fools rawr" we get every expansion.

Denathrius kinda felt this way. Diabolically evil, yet incredible charming and calculated.

[Jingliu]

Denathrius kinda felt this way. Diabolically evil, yet incredible charming and calculated.

Definitely the closest we have gotten so far, I'll give you that. He was still very much a threat in a fight though. I want someone as threatning as a Westfall Chicken, but hiding behind other benefactors of his plans.

[Worldshaper]

It appears that some posters here are desperate for another disastrous cosmic expansion.

Why? I have no idea.

No clue, but I'll take your Tinker and Elemental ideas over that nonsense any day of the week.

Just let Warcraft be Warcraft for a minute, damn. Shadowlands only ended less than a year ago.

[Ersula]

It's a good question, but I lean on the side of "the lore itself was bad".

It simply overexposed what's divine in the Warcraft universe. It undermined what came before it by "one-upping" everything, from Northrend and the Lich King to the old World Trees, the role of Death, the Scourge, the Titans, and lots more.

I would agree, but I would point to a big reason Shadowlands existed at all: DnD

The Forgotten Realms has this elaborate Afterlife lore; that Shadowlands lore is very much in the spirit of. That lore itself doesn't create problems, but at the same time nobody DMing their campaigns spends much time there. It's this whole world of lore nobody actually wants to interact with. But at the same time it doesn't ruin anything.

The idea of going to Avernus or the Maw is dope as shit, but in practice its not that easy to make it engrossing. The main difference here is DnD had to make the bottom layer of their Hell a cool Mad Max world where everyone rode giant deathtanks.

It appears that some posters here are desperate for another disastrous cosmic expansion.

Why? I have no idea.

Well, if Mists of Pandaria is any indication their "cosmic" expansions don't have to be literally cosmic. They can also be spiritual or even futuristic.