The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

Okey thanks for sharing! Sounds shit enough to be real.

Class customization, interesting new gamemode, and revamp. What's not to like?

[Nightshade711]

Except they haven't done that. There's no indication that the Algar dwarves are anti-titan except in the headcanon of people who can't read.

This. The dwarves did name the place Khaz Algar. And typically the Khaz is in honor of a Titan, Khaz’goroth.
Unless blizzard forgot about that lore tidbit (which wouldn’t surprise me), they’re probably not anti-Titan.

[huth]

I want strong faction presence in next expansion on "simple" looking lands(hopefully with open spaces), not just very few big lore figures but all races under these factions being there in some capacity and showing their factions colors.

I also hope that we won't be going just as "explorers" party again, like we did go to dragon isles, usually with some annoying npcs screaming to our ears.

No thanks. I don't want to be tightly aligned with the Alliance or Horde.

[milkmustache]

11.0

Earthbreakers

Explore cavern zones under new old-world zones.

Expansion starts in Silithus and you enter first zone near existing damaged earth.

Strongholds (not d4). Endgame shared pve area. 3 available on launch. Alternative to m+ but no time. 5 players attack stronghold mobs and get loot and currency the stronghold commander. Take place in castles in old world (think a bigger Stonewatch) and phasing system for up to 3 parties together. Puzzles and a trapdoor in one.

No new race but class modifications are coming that involve a rebuilt glyph system.

Jump function on ground mounts different

Enjoy

Don't love the name, but the rest is a cool idea.

[Teriz]

It's not worth replying to him anymore. We all know he is wrong to insist things like "we've already datamined 2 things and so we know what the entire expansion will be about", but he will never admit it, so it's really just not worth it to engage.

More like 5 things, and they alongside Thrall in the key art, all point away from a void expansion.

[Dracullus]

Even if they expand some previous known place into continent, stuff we imagined ends up like 1 or 2 zone. Outland - we imagined something like Hellfire or Shadowmoon, Northrend - Dragonblight and Icecrown, Broken Isles - Broken Shore and Azsuna. Rest is just invented stuff that could end up in literally every expansion.

Personally I like that Argus was final zone, cause it would felt a lot less threatening as expac continent (even as zone they managed to invent survivors who stayed there 25K years xD). Maw should be similar and I think it would be a lot more popular that way - we would get small glimpse during intro, then 9.0/S1 focused on 4 SL zones, then 9.1 in Zereth Mortis, then finale in Maw. Instead we spend 2/3 of expac in gloomy place.

[Alanar]

Class customization, interesting new gamemode, and revamp. What's not to like?

The stronghold part sounds so like blizzard, but it does sound shit. The rest sounds fine, but i want some races to be playable after years of asking. I hope we get more feautures next expansion.. its been a little hollow since sl.

[huth]

Considering how they're seeding ideas for 11.0 into these random logs. Sure, there's no connection between Avaloren & Khaz Algar in universe, but there is a connection to in how they're being introduced to the audience. There's a decent chance we get Khaz Algar & its part of entirely new contenent & they throw in some detail like "Before they scoured the influence of the Titans from their land, it was called Avaloren"

Which is really just your headcanon, not anything actually in the lore. Sure, they could do that. But they also could claim that Khaz Algar is a sky island or is the old name of Undermine. That's not a useful line of thought. For now, there's no meaningful connection between Avaloren and Khaz Algar.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

No thanks. I don't want to be tightly aligned with the Alliance or Horde.

Heretic.

/10chars

[Ersula]

This. The dwarves did name the place KHAZ Algar. And typically the Khaz is in honor of a Titan, Khaz’goroth.
Unless blizzard forgot about that lore tidbit (which wouldn’t surprise me), they’re probably not anti-Titan.

Unless when that happened they changed the name from Khaz Algar to Algaria. Or, which for warcraft is entirely likely, the two places are adjacent & the settlers of Avaloren & the settlers of Khaz Algar are at war with each other.

Which is really just your headcanon, not anything actually in the lore. Sure, they could do that. But they also could claim that Khaz Algar is a sky island or is the old name of Undermine. That's not a useful line of thought. For now, there's no meaningful connection between Avaloren and Khaz Algar.

I think Blizzard ham-handedly inserting location names for the next expansion is a pretty meaningful connection. Given their track record. And I directly stated it was just my own personal theory for 11.0

[Nightshade711]

More like 5 things, and they alongside Thrall in the key art, all point away from a void expansion.

It’s funny you say that because weren’t you saying Thrall = light invasion?

Thrall doesn’t point away from a void expansion, if it’s a threat to the world and/or horde he very well could be involved. He was involved in the N’zoth storyline w/ the visions after all, but you conveniently ignore that.

[milkmustache]

I want strong faction presence in next expansion on "simple" looking lands(hopefully with open spaces), not just very few big lore figures but all races under these factions being there in some capacity and showing their factions colors.

I also hope that we won't be going just as "explorers" party again, like we did go to dragon isles, usually with some annoying npcs screaming to our ears.

I didn't hate the Dragonscale Expedition, it just felt so much smaller the moment we left the Waking Shores introduction class.

If we're going in the direction of no faction wars, then allow the factions to collaborate on larger issues in a far more grand scale. Keep skirmishes happening for tensions to be present. I assume wherever we go next we'll need a military force, so that will hopefully solve that issue.

[huth]

Heretic.

/10chars

Just not stupid. They keep making messes out of things that they really didn't need to. Not interested in being part of that dumbassery.

[vintage79]

[Teriz]

“Going to Argus has nothing to do with an Azshara expansion” -Teriz after the “eye of azshara” trademark is registered.

We don’t know WHY we’re going to a lost continent west of Kalimdor.
It must be pretty bad for us to want to sail/fly through storms that nobody except Nightsquall was able to do and return.

A void invasion COULD be that driving force along with whatever macguffin blizzard has planned for that area.
And by your logic, going to K’aresh would make as much sense in a void invasion expansion as going to Argus in a legion expansion.

If it was a void invasion, don’t you think something from the set of datamined items would indicate that? Like the heroic mount or the achievements?

[Nightshade711]

Unless when that happened they changed the name from Khaz Algar to Algaria. Or, which for warcraft is entirely likely, the two places are adjacent & the settlers of Avaloren & the settlers of Khaz Algar are at war with each other.

That is a fair point. They definitely could have changed the name.

Though I think the war thing could be nice too. Bring the war back to Warcraft a little. (If they can successfully write it)

[Cheezits]

Also "jump for ground mounts changed" is so baffling that I don't think anyone could make that up. Like what does that mean?

Do they get a velocity jump like dragonriding jumps?

[Nightshade711]

If it was a void invasion, don’t you think something from the set of datamined items would indicate that? Like the heroic mount or the achievements?

You mean like the various void related enemies, like the K’thir that we don’t know much about?

Or the datamined Eco Dome stuff, given that the Ethereal story is directly tied to the void?
It would make sense for that to be in the files if they’re going to be a playable race for preorder.

If we datamined the Dread Raven mount today, NOBODY would reasonably expect the next expansion to have us time travel to an alternate timeline Draenor and fight an alternate Grommash who didn’t drink the Fel blood because Garrosh also time traveled to stop him from drinking it & get him to invade Azeroth.

[Pheraz]

Also "jump for ground mounts changed" is so baffling that I don't think anyone could make that up. Like what does that mean?

Do they get a velocity jump like dragonriding jumps?

Maybe big jump up to higher cliffs/hills

But not way a warrior shout spec would be real. Srsly

[Selorian]

Also "jump for ground mounts changed" is so baffling that I don't think anyone could make that up. Like what does that mean?

Do they get a velocity jump like dragonriding jumps?

Currently if you're not moving while mounted and jump, it does the mount special instead. Maybe they changed that, but that doesn't seem like an expansion feature and more something that randomly changes in a patch