The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Paula Deen]

Classic - C’thun
TBC - Ethereals, Dimensius, Arakkoa, the Shadowmoon Valley Old God
Wotlk- Yogg
Cata - N’Zoth, Deathwing, Cho’gall, Twilight Hammer
MoP - Y’Shaarj, Sha, Mantid
WoD - Cho’gall, Pale Orcs
Legion - Xal’atath, various hints such as the Fathom Dweller mystery, Drak’thul’s hints
BfA - The secondary theme of the expansion
SL - I genuinely can’t think of any here, the outlier?
DF - Iridikron, Harbinger, Fyrakk, Aberrus

The Void is the only constant threat we’ve had I believe.

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Because of one boss change? That’s a stretch.

Three. The Dread Lords, which would have been able to stretch that out a bit more, explain it better,

Rygelon which would have done the same. although I felt like he was pretty alright either way.

The Jailer just needed some more/better cooked motivation. Stretching the last bit into a separate raid released a few months later would have given them a bit more writing time I feel.

[Teriz]

Teriz, be real here. How do you propose that Fyrakk and Smolderon would be more of a lead in to presumably Avaloren and Khaz Algar than Iridikron, Xal’atath and the “heretics” that are quite obviously going to be void related in some form.

I really don’t believe that Fyrakk is going to lead us into 11.0 either. I believe Alexstraza is going to do something that’s going to dive us into the next expansion.

We shall see.

[micwini]

Anything new in the last 40 pages? Thread flying fast now

[Worldshaper]

Again, it’s doubtful we’re going on a void crusade when the heroic mount for the next expansion is a Stormrider, we have a battle pet called Squally and Fyrn, and we have multiple achievements labeled “Storm Rider”. That on top of a story about a green dragon flying into storms to find new lands west of Kalimdor.

That all points in a certain direction, and it’s not the void.

We don't know for sure what the Storm Rider mount is yet. But if it's that shadowy gryphon we've seen textures for (which, to be fair, some clues suggest), then it fits with a Void expansion.

Legion had the Illidari Felstalker, a demonic mount used by the Demon Hunters against the Legion.

Shadowlands had that weird anima worm thingie, a spiritual mount we kind of used against the forces of Death.

The Storm Rider could be a gryphon-like creature that has been subjected to and infused by the Void somehow, or the essence of the 5th Old God, and used by us or our newfound allies against the Void.

[Makorus]

11.0 seems to be more and more Anti-Titan like I predicted.

Odyn is the one leading us into 11.0

[Nymrohd]

11.0 seems to be more and more Anti-Titan like I predicted.

Odyn is the one leading us into 11.0

Anti-order. Not anti-Titan. I think Tyr will take us to 11.0 and Odyn will be a boss during the expac.

[vintage79]

Anti-order. Not anti-Titan.

Anti(pre)-order.

[NikolaiShade]

Teriz, be real here. How do you propose that Fyrakk and Smolderon would be more of a lead in to presumably Avaloren and Khaz Algar than Iridikron, Xal’atath and the “heretics” that are quite obviously going to be void related in some form.

I'm not so sure the "heretics" are void-related, more like anti-Titans and judging from the recent books they could very well be life-related

[Sondrelk]

Anything new in the last 40 pages? Thread flying fast now

Books found in 10.2 hint at Eonar and Elune being star crossed lovers. Eonar planted G'hanir somewhere, which was then uprooted by Aman'thul, creating a massive crater, though with the roots still holding strong.

Not sure what else.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

11.0 seems to be more and more Anti-Titan like I predicted.

Odyn is the one leading us into 11.0

Or Tyr, they are building tyr up pretty much since the beginning, i think he will be very involved.

[Dancaris]

Books found in 10.2 hint at Eonar and Elune being star crossed lovers. Eonar planted G'hanir somewhere, which was then uprooted by Aman'thul, creating a massive crater, though with the roots still holding strong.

Not sure what else.

G'Hanir branch, not tree itself.

[Ersula]

Anti-order. Not anti-Titan.

You know the Titans & the Pantheon of Order are the same thing right? I've been theorizing that Elune & the Eternal ones are the same thing as the Titans but so far the name Titan is unique to the "Order" Pantheon. A titan is literally the illustration of the "Order" sphere on the cosmology chart.

[Paula Deen]

Books found in 10.2 hint at Eonar and Elune being star crossed lovers. Eonar planted G'hanir somewhere, which was then uprooted by Aman'thul, creating a massive crater, though with the roots still holding strong.

Not sure what else.

I must have missed this part. Care to quote...cuz Ilgynoth could have been talking about this.

[NikolaiShade]

Books found in 10.2 hint at Eonar and Elune being star crossed lovers. Eonar planted G'hanir somewhere, which was then uprooted by Aman'thul, creating a massive crater, though with the roots still holding strong.

Not sure what else.

There was another book about a green dragon going west and disappearing, either she died or found some landmass and started her own "brood"

[Sondrelk]

Anti-order. Not anti-Titan. I think Tyr will take us to 11.0 and Odyn will be a boss during the expac.

Still don't see why Tyr wouldnt be antagonistic in an expansion where Titan influence is being fought against. All signs point to him being firmly on the side of the Titan agenda, and an ally of Odyn.

[Beerplz]

I must have missed this part. Care to quote...cuz Ilgynoth could have been talking about this.

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...110-expansion/

edit:
wops wrong link , this is the actual one https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...d-more/1682167

[Teriz]

The Storm Rider could be a gryphon-like creature that has been subjected to and infused by the Void somehow, or the essence of the 5th Old God, and used by us or our newfound allies against the Void.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that. I’m with the general consensus that we’re looking at anti-order. I also buy Odyn being a big antagonist in the very near future.

I also wonder if Storm Drakes will be involved in some form.

[Ersula]

Still don't see why Tyr wouldnt be antagonistic in an expansion where Titan influence is being fought against. All signs point to him being firmly on the side of the Titan agenda, and an ally of Odyn.

"All signs?" He gives that sentiment at first, during his logs. But Tyr clearly has the opposite stance as Odyn at the time of his death. Also Tyr & Odyn aren't Titans. The actual moral might just be anti-Keeper. Seems like the Keepers were being forced to improvise a lot.

[Santandame]

Anti-order. Not anti-Titan. I think Tyr will take us to 11.0 and Odyn will be a boss during the expac.

Yeah I think it’s safe to assume that we’ll get an Odyn raid once again but it’ll be a lot different to Trial of Valor. I imagine we’ll see Helya crop up again, whether she’s friend or foe though is anyone’s guess. Eyir will likely be a boss in that raid too.

[huth]

I must have missed this part. Care to quote...cuz Ilgynoth could have been talking about this.

That would indicate Il'gynoth was using the royal we in that line.

On the other hand, i very much doubt the story is "Titans r bäd" since both major characters in it are Titans. If anything, it shows the Titans don't all have the same view of things even when not high on Fel.

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Yeah I think it’s safe to assume that we’ll get an Odyn raid once again but it’ll be a lot different to Trial of Valor. I imagine we’ll see Helya crop up again, whether she’s friend or foe though is anyone’s guess. Eyir will likely be a boss in that raid too.

Eyir can go DIAF, she'll accuse you of helping Sylvanas in Stormheim even when you're Alliance.