1. #24561
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    They're robots with souls though. We can hope Winter Queen's soul was from Lifelands and that she had a proper body like Elune.
    I know I'm strange but imho the term "robots" is a little misused here. The Winter Queen (assuming she is a akin in origins to the Jailer) is a being created by the First Ones, now if they are created from flesh or metal I don't see that much of a difference honestly. One could argue about the origins of Elune and the Winter Queen, if they are "sisters" as being related in "birth" or if they are "sisters" in a metaphorical/metaphysical sense, one being of Death and the other of Life, so "sisters" in the cycle of mortal existence

  2. #24562
    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    Noticed something odd on the Rumble event.

    It notses "*Not available in Classic or Era titles." instead of just Classic Realms. What the fuck is an Era title?

    Like Taylor Swift???????
    Wrath of the Lich King and World of Warcraft Hardcore (and I suppose Era too). There are three different kinds of Classic.

  3. #24563
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Pretty sure Era means stuff like Season of Mastery or Hardcore. TBC Classic and WotLK Classic are already covered by Classic.
    Yep. Classic Era is 1.x and Classic is 3.x.

  4. #24564
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    I would say no, cause the Elemental Planes are "Titan-made" and are pocket realms linked to Azeroth.
    Which are a cosmic force (Order). So the whole "Cosmic" label is completely arbitrary and meaningless.

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    to preface, I'm sorry if this was already posted and debunked - I'm not going to read through 1200+ pages to see if it was posted. I just want to make aware if it hasn't been posted. I have no clue if this is legit or not but I found it on a facebook WoW group, I guess you can decide if it's worth speculating over or not. Given the new Emerald dream patch and the possible introduction of a lot more Azeroth storyline; to me it may be reasonable? No fuckin clue though:



    https://imgur.com/a/gEQlOIa
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  6. #24566
    Quote Originally Posted by Baykin1298 View Post
    to preface, I'm sorry if this was already posted and debunked - I'm not going to read through 1200+ pages to see if it was posted. I just want to make aware if it hasn't been posted. I have no clue if this is legit or not but I found it on a facebook WoW group, I guess you can decide if it's worth speculating over or not. Given the new Emerald dream patch and the possible introduction of a lot more Azeroth storyline; to me it may be reasonable? No fuckin clue though:



    https://imgur.com/a/gEQlOIa
    Yeah, super funny my guy

  7. #24567
    Quote Originally Posted by Baykin1298 View Post
    to preface, I'm sorry if this was already posted and debunked - I'm not going to read through 1200+ pages to see if it was posted. I just want to make aware if it hasn't been posted. I have no clue if this is legit or not but I found it on a facebook WoW group, I guess you can decide if it's worth speculating over or not. Given the new Emerald dream patch and the possible introduction of a lot more Azeroth storyline; to me it may be reasonable? No fuckin clue though:



    https://imgur.com/a/gEQlOIa
    https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...40155087720450

    Nah, @keyboardturn made this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    Yeah, super funny my guy
    not trying to be funny? Literally just wanted to make aware if it wasn't already posted. Thanks for your input though.

  9. #24569
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-que...-fyrakk-335330

    Bring the Everglowing Ember to Vyranoth in Amirdrassil or the Central Encampment in the Emerald Dream.

    OR the Central Encampment? Well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    thanks for looking out!

  11. #24571
    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaiShade View Post
    I know I'm strange but imho the term "robots" is a little misused here. The Winter Queen (assuming she is a akin in origins to the Jailer) is a being created by the First Ones, now if they are created from flesh or metal I don't see that much of a difference honestly. One could argue about the origins of Elune and the Winter Queen, if they are "sisters" as being related in "birth" or if they are "sisters" in a metaphorical/metaphysical sense, one being of Death and the other of Life, so "sisters" in the cycle of mortal existence
    And that's precisely what we get, when writers get wild with their ideas. We can't have a single, common sense stance on what things represent. It's being stretched to the extreme, whether something is a robot, a "being forged in a foundry" and infused with soul and whether sisters is just a metaphoric term or rather it's about family ties.
    I mean, I have nothing against people liking this kind of stuff, but it's beyond dispute that problems like that make the story confusing and difficult to comprehend to some players. And in the end, it's just an MMORPG game, not a saga of a few 1000-page tomes.
    I believe that an important element of cosmology in WoW has been broken with that and to many it started becoming less and less compelling every time writers change their mind of what powers constitute the framework of Warcraft's universe.
    It started with very basic concept - Elune and Malorne, Old Gods and Void, Titans and Burning Legion - basic concept, woven in mystery, which was a driving factor for player's imagination and clearly within the plane of high-fantasy.
    But that's just my take, but I get people like cosmic stuff

  12. #24572
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-que...-fyrakk-335330

    Bring the Everglowing Ember to Vyranoth in Amirdrassil or the Central Encampment in the Emerald Dream.

    OR the Central Encampment? Well...
    Hm, I think that's hard confirmation that Amirdrassil will be put into Ohnaranan Plains after the raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baykin1298 View Post
    to preface, I'm sorry if this was already posted and debunked - I'm not going to read through 1200+ pages to see if it was posted. I just want to make aware if it hasn't been posted. I have no clue if this is legit or not but I found it on a facebook WoW group, I guess you can decide if it's worth speculating over or not. Given the new Emerald dream patch and the possible introduction of a lot more Azeroth storyline; to me it may be reasonable? No fuckin clue though:
    That's an explicitely fake leak from a year ago.


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    Gosh, I hope Blizzard pulls the rug from underneath all these anti-Titan sentiments.

    Give me a story in which we've all started shitting on Odyn and Tyr for silly reasons, then suddenly something unexpected happens. A betrayal, or a twist of sorts. Maybe Vyranoth takes the heart of Amirdrassil.

    Odyn comes to save the day. A grumpy old dude who never falters from the righteous cause, despite edgelord haters like Vyranoth berating him nonstop.

    The Lord of Ravens turns the key, bringing Tyr to life in a selfless sacrifice, or opening the doors to Uldaz, giving us a way to fight back, or guiding us to Avaloren.

    Two mighty Titan Keepers swinging their weapons, side by side in battle against the darkness.

  15. #24575
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-que...-fyrakk-335330

    Bring the Everglowing Ember to Vyranoth in Amirdrassil or the Central Encampment in the Emerald Dream.

    OR the Central Encampment? Well...
    Probably she's in multiple locations at once. They have done that before. Probably means nothing
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  16. #24576
    The Voidstorm "leaker" is posting more and more to their thread. I'm starting to become convinced lol.

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  18. #24578
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Probably she's in multiple locations at once. They have done that before. Probably means nothing
    I think the idea is that it means that she's not in the raid but the tree is a separate zone after the raid

  19. #24579
    Quote Originally Posted by Baykin1298 View Post
    not trying to be funny? Literally just wanted to make aware if it wasn't already posted. Thanks for your input though.
    Alright, sorry. This was an old fake leak made last expansion lead up. There used to also be a bit were people would keep posting a fake Tides of Vengeance login screen acting like it was new, with the gag being you click it and it was an old known about fake. I thought you were just doing that bit, so I do apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    Alright, sorry. This was an old fake leak made last expansion lead up. There used to also be a bit were people would keep posting a fake Tides of Vengeance login screen acting like it was new, with the gag being you click it and it was an old known about fake. I thought you were just doing that bit, so I do apologize.
    no sweat, text chat doesn't convey emotion, appreciate the information!

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