The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Izalla]

"The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green."

Eonar & Elune are a lesbian couple that conspired to adopt Azeroth & usurp the Titans.

Okay, that's one whisper down. Which is next?

Let's be real, they would be way better parents than Aman'thul and the others.

[Marlamin]

We have reliable information: Marlamin, someone who knows what they are talking about. With an actual source

I mean, I speculate as well but I make it very non-definitive which makes it far less interesting to discuss.

However, I do believe that toggle will be in place for the Dragon Isles very soon after 10.2, because it coincides with standard flying being allowed in the Dragon Isles in 10.2.

Yeah, I think this would be the best way to go about it, basically limited testing of the feature before they expand it to the old world. Would be the best way to introduce it.

[Magistrate]

Let's be real, they would be way better parents than Aman'thul and the others.

Hard agree 10/10. Agrammar would have given loveable wholesome single working-class father and I would also accept that.

[Houle]

Let's be real, they would be way better parents than Aman'thul and the others.

Considering Eonar went along with all of the titans other stuff, and Elune was content to let a lot of her "favoured children" burn to help her sister out (which then didnt even work) id argue they are just as shitty lol.

[flan1337]

"Mists" of Pandaria.

interesting notes about mists - the island became unshrouded because of deathwings events no? If there was another cata like event we might see more islands appear

[ro9ue]

Made a big speculation post some 30 pages back after the new books in 10. 2 were datamined. If 11.0 is going to have the roots of elun'ahir and some Elune focus it may make sense in hindisight to save druids for all races till the next expansion.

Druids and Shamans seem likely for all. Probably just need some additional design time for forms and totems, the first ones they unlocked didn't really need any additional work.

[milkmustache]

interesting notes about mists - the island became unshrouded because of deathwings events no? If there was another cata like event we might see more islands appear

Like another revamp?

[Ersula]

TBF, in that regard I was talking about that toggle applying for every other landmass, not just the Dragon isles. I still don't believe we're getting dragonriding outside of the Dragon Isles (beyond DR racing/cups) until 11.0. However, I do believe that toggle will be in place for the Dragon Isles very soon after 10.2, because it coincides with standard flying being allowed in the Dragon Isles in 10.2.

I can literally start the EK dragonriding cup, take a hard left & fly into another zone. It's fully functional now. I think that suggests they're only waiting on it because its related to some sort of promotion, like the pre-order.

[ro9ue]

Considering Eonar went along with all of the titans other stuff, and Elune was content to let a lot of her "favoured children" burn to help her sister out (which then didnt even work) id argue they are just as shitty lol.

We don't know much about Elune. If she's sealed away in the moon or something, it would explain it. Whatever it is, she doesn't seem happy since her tears keep popping up everywhere.

[Valysar]

Druids and Shamans seem likely for all. Probably just need some additional design time for forms and totems, the first ones they unlocked didn't really need any additional work.

Paladin too, since now there is a Kultiran paladin (maybe in 10.2.5 ?)

[Izalla]

This is perhaps one of your biggest stretches.

This was knowledge for a long time. Nowhere has Blizzard said gryphon dragonriding is coming 10.2.

The biggest stretch is that there would need to be a celebration of any kind for such a thing. It's a very bizarre thought. Will Blizz throw a party for every new mount type able to use dynamic flight?

[NikolaiShade]

Druids and Shamans seem likely for all. Probably just need some additional design time for forms and totems, the first ones they unlocked didn't really need any additional work.

You know what, with all the druid forms and the customization options they are adding in 10.2, I could even see using "placeholder" forms for some races. By "placeholder" I mean different colors of existing models and then adding proper forms during the expac. Iirc Lightforged Draenei Palading got their mount during SL, so there would be a precedent.

[FelPlague]

I can literally start the EK dragonriding cup, take a hard left & fly into another zone. It's fully functional now. I think that suggests they're only waiting on it because its related to some sort of promotion, like the pre-order.

The reaso nthey have not unlocked dragon riding outside the isles is it is like cross-faction play.
Once they give it to us, they can't take it away.
so they are waiting to make sure they want to do it, before they give it to us.
they want to make sure it works, that players want it, that they want it.
once they are sure, they will give it to us, until then we will have to wait.
cause if they give it to us, then for whatever reason have to take it away, that would be catastrophic.

[ro9ue]

Paladin too, since now there is a Kultiran paladin (maybe in 10.2.5 ?)

True, also needed extra cosmetic work with them. The mounts.

This came up when I googled race class combos and really shaman, druid, paladin are the last ones that make sense to open for all. The additional race-specific cosmetics probably caused them to be done last.



For Evokers... really can't see that working for anything else. For Demon Hunters... they should at least expand it out to Void Elf and Nightborne?

[FelPlague]

We don't know much about Elune. If she's sealed away in the moon or something, it would explain it. Whatever it is, she doesn't seem happy since her tears keep popping up everywhere.

Elune's an old god the titans locked within a facility on the moon.
#confirmed

[Magistrate]

The reaso nthey have not unlocked dragon riding outside the isles is it is like cross-faction play.
Once they give it to us, they can't take it away.
so they are waiting to make sure they want to do it, before they give it to us.
they want to make sure it works, that players want it, that they want it.
once they are sure, they will give it to us, until then we will have to wait.
cause if they give it to us, then for whatever reason have to take it away, that would be catastrophic.

Yeah this reminds me of the general flying conundrum. Once they added it to zones, if they had zones where you couldn't fly players call it "taking flying away" and that has been the case every expansion since it was introduced.

Committing to dragonriding also means a commitment to Dragon Isles-sized zones forever, as well.

[NikolaiShade]

Paladin too, since now there is a Kultiran paladin (maybe in 10.2.5 ?)

This please, gimme paladins, Nightborne ones in particular since I got the outfit already set and I don't want to waste it lol

[FelPlague]

True, also needed extra cosmetic work with them. The mounts.

This came up when I googled race class combos and really shaman, druid, paladin are the last ones that make sense to open for all. The additional race-specific cosmetics probably caused them to be done last.



For Evokers... really can't see that working for anything else. For Demon Hunters... they should at least expand it out to Void Elf and Nightborne?

If anything I see more so dracthyr getting all the classes
but evoker will liekly stay ALWAYS dracthyr only, however they may add all the other races to dracthyr, just with less customization, like literally just likely horns.
But who knows, they could do something with all the rest of the races by giving them animations, and have them gain wings/tail JUST for the specific abilities that require it. So they would be "humanoids" that take on aspects of dragon kind for specific spells.

[Valysar]

If anything I see more so dracthyr getting all the classes
but evoker will liekly stay ALWAYS dracthyr only, however they may add all the other races to dracthyr, just with less customization, like literally just likely horns.
But who knows, they could do something with all the rest of the races by giving them animations, and have them gain wings/tail JUST for the specific abilities that require it. So they would be "humanoids" that take on aspects of dragon kind for specific spells.

Vulperas/Draeneis/Pandarens with wings xmog could be able to cast the 2 racials

[FelPlague]

Yeah this reminds me of the general flying conundrum. Once they added it to zones, if they had zones where you couldn't fly players call it "taking flying away" and that has been the case every expansion since it was introduced.

Committing to dragonriding also means a commitment to Dragon Isles-sized zones forever, as well.

Yeah, as they said from the start, they do not want to bring dragon riding anywhere else, until they are sure this will be a feature going forward.
As of now it is still just a "dragonflight feature" but with how the playerbase has overall loved it, It is safe to assume they will be carrying it forward. But nothing official yet of course.

Also with dragon riding I would even be fine with even bigger zones, with more space between the stuff, with how fast it is to travle I am perfectly fine with long open fields with little to nothing in them, to make the world feel big.