The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

Shame Dragonflight got rid of the dragon called Raszageth the STORM EATER so soon.
She could have been an even better choice for this than Iridikron.
You think it would be possible for Iridikron and Knaifu to resurrect her? Just long enough for her to eat the storm? I mean she wasn't really all that great of a villain but she had a cool design and we couldn't see her visage form.

Alexstrasza: "What do you mean you turned Raszageth into a Loa?"
Winter Queen: "What's the problem? She said she knew you"

[Wangming]

Just checked and the dracthyr and evoker riddle stuff was on the 15th of April, with the announcement four days later on the 19th. I'm pretty sure the picture of the model in the character creation screen was even closer to the announcement

Really? Dang. It seemed longer for me. Guess my brain was tricked by so much stuff happening. I swear it seemed several weeks to me.

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And Sargeras clearly got scratched in the past.

Got scratched is not the same as killed. And the scratch was certainly helped by the axe being super effin magical. Still even that in mind I think his ego was bruised more than his foot.

[Cheezits]

Shame Dragonflight got rid of the dragon called Raszageth the STORM EATER so soon.
She could have been an even better choice for this than Iridikron.
You think it would be possible for Iridikron and Knaifu to resurrect her? Just long enough for her to eat the storm? I mean she wasn't really all that great of a villain but she had a cool design and we couldn't see her visage form.

I think there is a possibility Raz comes back through necromancy or time travel. The devs hinted that her visage may be seen in the future, which wouldn't make sense otherwise unless there is a flashback.

[Alanar]

I love this idea, but since the Titan keepers noted that Avaloren has sophisticated technology capable of repelling keeper forces. I doubt they are stuck at the level of Camelot.

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Rise of Vulpera? Not Rise of the Vulpera?
Looks like Wrath of the Bolvar took the 'the'.

So true lol.

[Wangming]

Alexstrasza: "What do you mean you turned Raszageth into a Loa?"
Winter Queen: "What's the problem? She said she knew you"

I was thinking more undead dragon but yes, that works even better.
But seriously we kill the Storm dragon in the first raid and it is the earth dragon that crosses the storm. This makes sense how?

[Lady Atia]

Really? Dang. It seemed longer for me. Guess my brain was tricked by so much stuff happening. I swear it seemed several weeks to me.

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Got scratched is not the same as killed. And the scratch was certainly helped by the axe being super effin magical. Still even that in mind I think his ego was bruised more than his foot.

Yeah, the char creation screens came the night before the announcement as I remember I went to sleep just to wake up for them haha.

[Wangming]

I think there is a possibility Raz comes back through necromancy or time travel. The devs hinted that her visage may be seen in the future, which wouldn't make sense otherwise unless there is a flashback.

Exactly. I mean Onyxia was brought back by Nefarian. I'm sure Neltharion was something related to Necromancy in his lab. Or Knaifu does void magic to save her. Or time travel as you said. I mean Timer traveling dragons wouldn't be a new thing for this expansion.

[Well Done Steak]

I think there is a possibility Raz comes back through necromancy or time travel. The devs hinted that her visage may be seen in the future, which wouldn't make sense otherwise unless there is a flashback.

Um, holy shit what if Raz did something to that storm before she died, or maybe her death triggered something and that's how were able to go west of Kal.

[Wangming]

Um, holy shit what if Raz did something to that storm before she died, or maybe her death triggered something and that's how were able to go west of Kal.

And conveniently nobody noticed it until the plot was ready for it to be noticed?

I mean it would be stupid not to involve Raszageth somehow, but...we probably need to bring her back for that.

[Izalla]

scaleface told us the name of the expansion and the date of the announcement almost 1 month before tho iirc

I just checked and his first posts related to the topic at all were on April 12th. That is when he started posting about the fact there would be leaks soon because of press packets, and within the next three days he had posted the riddles and the thread had solved them.

Here is his first post after the press packet.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post53696179

[Nymrohd]

Got scratched is not the same as killed. And the scratch was certainly helped by the axe being super effin magical. Still even that in mind I think his ego was bruised more than his foot.

Toranaar scratched more than his toes.

[ro9ue]

And conveniently nobody noticed it until the plot was ready for it to be noticed?

I mean it would be stupid not to involve Raszageth somehow, but...we probably need to bring her back for that.

Um, holy shit what if Raz did something to that storm before she died, or maybe her death triggered something and that's how were able to go west of Kal.

It was weird that Raszageth was sealed away in her own prison, and the other 3 primalists were somewhere else. Maybe the titans kept her there as a battery to power the super storm, and upon her release it disappeared or was weakened?

[Well Done Steak]

And conveniently nobody noticed it until the plot was ready for it to be noticed?

I mean it would be stupid not to involve Raszageth somehow, but...we probably need to bring her back for that.

Well, yeah I guess.

Maybe whatever she did isn't instant, who knows?

Perhaps that's what the flashback would be and she'll be in visage form for it.

Maybe that's where the world soul is, (uldaz maybe) which is why it's so protected. So perhaps as per iridikron's plan, she was to prioritize destabilizing that storm before releasing her siblings.

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It was weird that Raszageth was sealed away in her own prison, and the other 3 primalists were somewhere else. Maybe the titans kept her there as a battery to power the super storm, and upon her release it disappeared?

Well death wing imprisoned her there since she was dumb enough to launch an attack by herself. At least that's how I understand it. But who knows, maybe she was.

[Marlamin]

I'm going to guess it has to do with the NPCs that are doing the races? If so, I have some ideas...

Definitely nothing that cool, just the amount of races we'll likely end up seeing.

[huth]

It was weird that Raszageth was sealed away in her own prison, and the other 3 primalists were somewhere else. Maybe the titans kept her there as a battery to power the super storm, and upon her release it disappeared or was weakened?

They didn't catch her when they caught the other three. Her imprisonment was a desperation move by Neltharion. That's why she was on the Forbidden Isle, not in the prison. She likely stayed there because Neltharion didn't want the other flights to know about the Dracthyr. The Titans and Keepers had nothing to do with it at all.

Since none of the people involved in her imprisonment were still alive when the Dragons returned to the Isles, the Primalists had a relatively easy time freeing her. But it still only happened after the return.

[Izalla]

They didn't catch her when they caught the other three. Her imprisonment was a desperation move by Neltharion. That's why she was on the Forbidden Isle, not in the prison. She likely stayed there because Neltharion didn't want the other flights to know about the Dracthyr. The Titans and Keepers had nothing to do with it at all.

Since none of the people involved in her imprisonment were still alive when the Dragons returned to the Isles, the Primalists had a relatively easy time freeing her. But it still only happened after the return.

Yeah he like, stuffed her through a void portal

[johnny download]

oh man, going back thru people's reactions to scaleface's DF leaks is HILARIOUS. no shot anyone will accept any real 11.0 leaks as legitimate until we're all watching the reveal trailer next month and the cycle will continue for 12.0. but that's all part of the fun c:

[KurtMash]

I think there is a possibility Raz comes back through necromancy or time travel. The devs hinted that her visage may be seen in the future, which wouldn't make sense otherwise unless there is a flashback.

I think if we see her visage, it will be during a flashback showing us how the Incarnates got their powers. To this day we have no idea how it happened, and given lack of elemental lords in Dragonflight, I would assume it wasn't them.

[Reive]

oh man, going back thru people's reactions to scaleface's DF leaks is HILARIOUS. no shot anyone will accept any real 11.0 leaks as legitimate until we're all watching the reveal trailer next month and the cycle will continue for 12.0. but that's all part of the fun c:

to be fair, no one expected dracthyrs to look like that lol

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I just checked and his first posts related to the topic at all were on April 12th. That is when he started posting about the fact there would be leaks soon because of press packets, and within the next three days he had posted the riddles and the thread had solved them.

Here is his first post after the press packet.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post53696179

thought it was earlier. i guess we'll have to wait 1-2 more weeks before getting anything meaningful

[Ersula]

I think if we see her visage, it will be during a flashback showing us how the Incarnates got their powers. To this day we have no idea how it happened, and given lack of elemental lords in Dragonflight, I would assume it wasn't them.

Shouldn't we just assume they got them from Galakrond? Their Father? They talk about the Titans like they personally remember what Azeroth was like before they showed up, so there's a good chance they predate the Elemental Lords entirely.