The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Raetary]

Alternative Shadowform visuals please.

[Wangming]

Alternative Shadowform visuals please.

Ahh Shadowform. An ability literally begging to be revamped.

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New DH wings please

For real though. Imagine Black birdlike wings like a fallen angel.

[NikolaiShade]

Alternative Shadowform visuals please.

Lightform for the edgier edge-lords, so edgy they look plain

[Pyrophax]

Sounds more like 10.2.5 but i don't know what it can mean, boomkin are getting new stuff in 10.2 so maybe DK pets? Draenei got eredar customization

Red orcs? Dragonmaw customization? 10.2.5 would be also after blizzcon so maybe there will be some 2 new allied races with preorder. who knows.

Isn't roadmap tells us about new BE customisations?

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Isn't roadmap tells us about new BE customisations?

they get new hair colors or something.

Another thing is that BE already had enough of new stuff from Blizzard, other races exist too.

[Wangming]

Isn't roadmap tells us about new BE customisations?

You think that is all? Dude is acting like we are getting a christmas present or something.

[Makorus]

Isn't roadmap tells us about new BE customisations?

That was 10.1.7.

And it was some hair colours.

There is no roadmap for 10.2.5/10.2.7 yet.

[Wangming]

That was 10.1.7.

And it was some hair colours.

There is no roadmap for 10.2.5/10.2.7 yet.

Is there any chance 10.2.7 will already be the prepatch? That would certainly explain the absence.

[Makorus]

Ahh Shadowform. An ability literally begging to be revamped.

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For real though. Imagine Black birdlike wings like a fallen angel.

Shadowform has no purpose to be in the game still outside of being a cosmetic RP ability.
It's incredibly annoying when you randomly get booted out of Shadowform for the dumbest thing and you just do like 10% less damage. I get that it's easy to notice you are not in it anymore, but I don't always my eyes glued to my character.

There is no negative to having it on either, so you might as well just make the damage baseline. At least with Boomkin form, you have certain spells you can't cast in Moonkin form and there is advantages and disadvantages.

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Is there any chance 10.2.7 will already be the prepatch? That would certainly explain the absence.

Assuming 7th is the release date for 10.2, 10.2.5 would probably be late January, and 10.2.7 would roughly be late March/early April.

Might be a bit too early for Prepatch but hard to say.

[Wangming]

Shadowform has no purpose to be in the game still outside of being a cosmetic ability.
It's incredibly annoying when you randomly get booted out of Shadowform for the dumbest thing and you just do like 10% less damage.

There is no negative to having it on either, so you might as well just make the damage baseline. At least with Boomkin form, you have certain spells you can't cast in Moonkin form and there is advantages and disadvantages.

Exactly. It is a one button toggle that you leave on and that is it. It is bullshit. If it were like voidform where you need to build up resources for it and need to work on it to keep it up and/or have abilities unavailable in Shadowform like with Moonkin, it could be fun. But this way it is basically a passive trait that takes up a slot on your hotbar.

[Makabreska]

Shadowform has no purpose to be in the game still outside of being a cosmetic ability.
It's incredibly annoying when you randomly get booted out of Shadowform for the dumbest thing and you just do like 10% less damage.

There is no negative to having it on either, so you might as well just make the damage baseline. At least with Boomkin form, you have certain spells you can't cast in Moonkin form and there is advantages and disadvantages.

Quite sure that Shadowform is at the bottom of Shadow players concern list. This spec received two reworks in DF so far, and it keeps getting worse (state of 10.2 PTR is just kekw). Every other spec rework has been great, but for some reason Blizz is unable to land it with Shadow.

[Wangming]

Might be a bit too early for Prepatch but hard to say.

Depends on how ahead they are in development for 11.0
And when the last raid tier is going to be.

[Hitei]

Exactly. It is a one button toggle that you leave on and that is it. It is bullshit. If it were like voidform where you need to build up resources for it and need to work on it to keep it up and/or have abilities unavailable in Shadowform like with Moonkin, it could be fun. But this way it is basically a passive trait that takes up a slot on your hotbar.

I'd rather you not advocate for the removal one one of the handful of flavorful personal buffs left in the game. It's bad enough they gutted the warlock, hunter, DK and paladin ones.

[Makorus]

Quite sure that Shadowform is at the bottom of Shadow players concern list. This spec received two reworks in DF so far, and it keeps getting worse (state of 10.2 PTR is just kekw). Every other spec rework has been great, but for some reason Blizz is unable to land it with Shadow.

Honestly, they should just start over with Shadow Priest.

They keep reiterating, and add on more and more, and it just gets a nightmare to balance because they are probably the spec with the most actual buttons (other than Brewmaster, maybe).

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I'd rather you not advocate for the removal one one of the handful of flavorful personal buffs left in the game. It's bad enough they gutted the warlock, hunter, DK and paladin ones.

What flavour does it have?
10% extra damage?

It's not even a "personal buff". It's a stance that you have no reason to ever leave.

No one is saying to remove it but you might as well decouple it from the actual damage bonus bit and make it a purely cosmetic ability.

[Holdodlig]

Sounds more like 10.2.5 but i don't know what it can mean, boomkin are getting new stuff in 10.2 so maybe DK pets? Draenei got eredar customization

Red orcs? Dragonmaw customization? 10.2.5 would be also after blizzcon so maybe there will be some 2 new allied races with preorder. who knows.

Maybe we'll get fire elves ?

[Makorus]

Maybe we'll get fire elves ?

I feel like that is quite likely, because there is a Druid of the Flames sidequest that sympathizes with them.

[Hitei]

What flavour does it have?
10% extra damage?

...in the form of a unique toggleable permanent buff that triggers a substantial visual effect. Correct.

How do you not understand that those subtleties are what defines the entire game and gives an RPG depth and immersion? There's a reason that each mage spec has an individual barrier spell with very minor effect differences, and that rogues re-apply poisons.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I think there's also a chance they will want to finally have every main race with heritage questlines and armor in DF.

So maybe Trolls(finally) and draenei will be getting some questlines.

[Dracullus]

Is there any chance 10.2.7 will already be the prepatch? That would certainly explain the absence.

You don't have to explain absence of 10.2.5 on roadmap, cause it was 2023 roadmap. We expect to see next one on Blizzcon.

[Makorus]

...in the form of a unique toggleable permanent buff that triggers a substantial visual effect. Correct.

How do you not understand that those subtleties are what defines the entire game and gives an RPG depth and immersion? There's a reason that each mage spec has an individual barrier spell with very minor effect differences, and that rogues re-apply poisons.

All of those have more behind it than: "I press the button once (unless some bug makes me drop this form)".

Rogues have different poisons for different purposes. There's downsides and upsides for using different ones.

Mage Barriers are defensive cooldowns. There's arguments to be made for when to use them.

Shadowform might as well be a cosmetic ability. There is literally no reason whatsoever not to use it. That's why I don't have a problem with the Boomkin form, even though it is literally the exact same thing, but with actual gameplay behind it.