The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dracullus]

Many people are waiting for a World Revamp confirmation.

Existing leak already makes revamp extremely unlikely. It's very minor, but focus your attention to completely different direction.

[Hitei]

I think it will be pretty wild to see comments if it won't happen in 11.0.

It'll just be like the last three times people were convinced it was happening. If anything I feel like it's milder this time because the sea stiff and Algarian thing dealt a significant blow to the revamp people's confidence.

[Darkarath]

Existing leak already makes revamp extremely unlikely. It's very minor, but focus your attention to completely different direction.

I mean, not necessarily. Chances are that a revamp would be made from scratch and not all at once. I can see them revamping some zones while giving us a few zones of the new continent in the Other Side of Azeroth / The West / Avaloren. In such a way, we will always be eager to see new zones in both old and new continents.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

It'll just be like the last three times people were convinced it was happening. If anything I feel like it's milder this time because the sea stiff and Algarian thing dealt a significant blow to the revamp people's confidence.

Honestly i no longer believe it but when i resubbed recently, the people that still play in my guild or IRL that dropped wow in SL are so hyped and convinced because they were watching youtube videos about it and that big wow devs hyping blizzcon so much, metzen returning..
It might died kinda here, but i think it's still going strong overall.

It's likely the only scenario they see for now and i don't really want to be a buzzkiller by saying that youtubeers will do what youtubers do, which is trying to sell something before expansion reveal and then making videos about the disappointment that it didnt happen after the reveal.

[Wangming]

It may not be for everyone. But I think FFXIV's storytelling is amazing. And I know I am not alone in that. Yes, it's much more about the journey and the experience than reaching endgame quickly. But there is a place for that in the MMO landscape, I think. You don't complain about all the pages you have to read through to reach the end of a fantasy novel. They are part of the story itself.

The way I see it people in WoW are sort of conditioned to find the fastest leveling route to max and start to enjoy the endgame. FFXIV is certainly not for everyone and definitely not for those who rush.

[Holdodlig]

We've had them since cata.



They just weren't any good until recently.

Or this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpWF...el=JulianPerry

When I think about it, there was no mention of Rhea, the one who saved Wrathion and allowed him to be freed from corruption.

[Dracullus]

I mean, not necessarily. Chances are that a revamp would be made from scratch and not all at once. I can see them revamping some zones while giving us a few zones of the new continent in the Other Side of Azeroth / The West / Avaloren. In such a way, we will always be eager to see new zones in both old and new continents.

As I said before, if revamp is just hd textures, it's not even worth anyones attention. If it's new quests, it's nonsense to not focus expansion on them.

WoW doesn't need Cata style revamp. It happened because they learned a lot during TBC/Wrath and wanted refresh extremely outdated questing experience. Now WoW has new leveling system with builded fix - they can revamp intro zone and/or switch default 10-X expansion when they want.

[Sondrelk]

I mean, not necessarily. Chances are that a revamp would be made from scratch and not all at once. I can see them revamping some zones while giving us a few zones of the new continent in the Other Side of Azeroth / The West / Avaloren. In such a way, we will always be eager to see new zones in both old and new continents.

I can't see them revamping this way. It would not offer any substantial benefits compared to one or two manageable chunks of revamp that allows them to use the zones to their fullest.

[PotHockets]

Existing leak already makes revamp extremely unlikely. It's very minor, but focus your attention to completely different direction.

Existing leaks dont lean towards anything other than us knowing the heroic edition mount is an Algarian Stormrider. We have no context for it. No concept of it. The only thing close is that one Gryphon skin and as far as Ive seen nothing at all actually indicates that it's the Algarian Stormrider.

[Hitei]

Existing leaks dont lean towards anything other than us knowing the heroic edition mount is an Algarian Stormrider. We have no context for it. No concept of it. The only thing close is that one Gryphon skin and as far as Ive seen nothing at all actually indicates that it's the Algarian Stormrider.

Well, not quite. The actually close thing is Khaz Algar, since it seems the best bet for the source of the name Algar-ian. But since Khaz Algar is not a known place located in EK/Kalimdor, it seems to lean away from revamp.

[Alanar]

Pros to making it cosmetic and baking the 10% into the spec:

- Extra Customization Option
- No potential to lose damage by it randomly falling off

Cons to making it cosmetic:

- It has been in the game for a long time

How does it randomly fall off?

We still have a very undersused glyph system, which is already in place and works, nothing is stopping them to add more options there. Altho shadowform could also be a barber thing, with a dropdown menu. Older shadowforms or perhaps new ones could be options.

I dont see how, how making it passive will increase our changes at getting more options tho. I also like to opt in and out when I feel like it, would this also be lost?

[Nymrohd]

Existing leak already makes revamp extremely unlikely. It's very minor, but focus your attention to completely different direction.

I think people who are here and believe this are clearly failing reading comprehension. People who occasionally watch some WoW youtuber though probably think it is likely.

[Marlamin]

apparently the outdoor team is ahead of schedule according to @Marlamin

so there's a good chance they'll focus on a revamp from 0

I mean, that's reading a lot into that, just saying the zones are way more polished when they go into public testing compared to before Shadowlands.

[Makorus]

How does it randomly fall off?

We still have a very undersused glyph system, which is already in place and works, nothing is stopping them to add more options there. Altho shadowform could also be a barber thing, with a dropdown menu. Older shadowforms or perhaps new ones could be options.

I dont see how, how making it passive will increase our changes at getting more options tho. I also like to opt in and out when I feel like it, would this also be lost?

It's more customization because you can decide whether you wanna play Shadow Priest in your Shadow Form, or with your normal form.

Transmogging as a Shadow Priest is a pain in the ass.

[Ersula]

I think people who are here and believe this are clearly failing reading comprehension. People who occasionally watch some WoW youtuber though probably think it is likely.

I do think the old world revamp is either planned for 11.0 or 12.0. It's entirely possible The Algarian part of a gryphon rider has nothing to do with the actual locations of the expansion, just that there will be many gryphons in a perspective warcraft world revamp. It is a very iconic alliance animal. But what throws me is the frequent namedropping of entirely new locations in dragonflight. That makes me think 11.0 will just be a new continent.

It's more customization because you can decide whether you wanna play Shadow Priest in your Shadow Form, or with your normal form.

Transmogging as a Shadow Priest is a pain in the ass.

I'd rather they just give us back holy abilities that would give us a reason to leave Shadowform.

[ChairmanKaga]

How does it randomly fall off?

I too have no idea how it supposedly randomly falls off.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Revamp is perfect to announce as something that can happen later on when they've announced Annual Expansions, Battle Passes for WoW to keep players continual engagement.

That is if this Blizzcon is a nightmarish hellscape. (I be surprised though if that is the end scenario the PR & Marketing Team chose for this, but I can't shake off the vibe check right now. But at the same time, I just can't believe that they want to do this.)

[Ersula]

Revamp is perfect to announce as something that can happen later on when they've announced Annual Expansions, Battle Passes for WoW to keep players continual engagement.

First of all, eww. Second of all, that's what the Trading post is. You get currency for paying for the subscription & you get more currency for doing an assortment of tasks. The thing about "shorter" expansions is they're less inclined to do something big, like a world revamp, for the game.

[Santandame]

What are some abandoned systems you wouldn't mind returning??

Someone mentioned torghast which was 100% an amazing system in terms of potential

Personally I think artifact weapons without the player power attached would be BiS

Challenge mode dungeon rewards for m+

And definitely warfronts though terribly implemented remains one of my favorite BfA additions

Artifacts exactly as they were in Legion.

Torghast and Warfronts both with their core philosophy and design attached but with changes to make them more diverse in terms of aesthetics and appealing rewards wise(torghast) and designed around smaller groups with mini games included instead of just swarming mobs(warfronts).

Return of the mage tower with new challenges.

Islands based around exploration, riddles, adventure, mini games, puzzles.

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So...you want Diremaul, but with Ogre architecture and a Human touch to it.

Dire Maul is a night elf ruin in a rainforest that has ogres, demons and lots of plants.

Nothing the guy you’ve quoted said is anything similar to Dire Maul apart from the mention of ogres. He told you what he wants.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I think if world revamp someday happen, then adding racial campaigns would be a really good fit to go with it - each race dealing with new stuff in their respected zones and eventually just like order halls, joining each other to defeat the baddies.

It would be really cool to have a lot of new race specific cosmetics that you would unlock after doing some objectives, some hidden armor set like legion had a hidden artifact apperance etc.


The cinematic for that expansion could be very similar to the cinematic of vanilla, showing each races in different shot and such.