The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Skildar]

Odyn is just a cooler Tyr tbh

I see Tyr as Tyrael and Odyn as Imperius. It's very classic portrayal of the good lieutenant and tyranical leader

[Teriz]

"Near titan facilities" Exactly 1.. there is nothing in Sholazar that is named Stormrider. They are not even near Ulduar. Yea "In the same zone is close bruh" doesn't work here.

You are reaching now..

They’re located in the Storm Peaks. That’s the same zone as Ulduar.

It’s also hilarious that out of that entire post the one thing you decided to nitpick is your opinion of distance in a video game.

[lanerios]

They’re located in the Storm Peaks. That’s the same zone as Ulduar.

It’s also hilarious that out of that entire post the one thing you decided to nitpick is your opinion of distance in a video game.

Actually if you decide to read for once, instead of jump into a response. I also responded to your "Near titan facilities" (Not singular, nope.) being false.

You're reaching. It's adorable, but it's about the same reaching as your:

Tinker is next bruh!
I 100% predicted Evoker bruh!
Tyr is 100% the next expansion villain bruh!

You're talking about:

1 mob in 1 zone, in a side area. Not even near Ulduar or any titan construct (which there are multiple of in Storm Peaks, they are near none of them). Nowhere in WoW is there a Stormrider named mob near any titan facility. So yea, I'd call that reaching.

[Lolites]

Hint: it starts with H and ends with ousing.

Huge hammer to bash heads of people who constantly bring up idea of their own "place" bcs they find the idea arousing?

[Nightshade711]

Yeah, everything is not pointing towards dwarves. We got a couple of trading post items, some “Storm rider” Dragonriding achievements, and the story of Khaz Algar which comes from the Algarian Stormrider. The only thing in that bunch that actually applies to the next expansion is the Algarian Stormrider.

The Storm rider achievements could be something for 10.2 and not apply to 11.0 at all, and the gear is just some cool trading post items that allow you to live out your Storm rider dwarf fantasy.

As for the mount being an elemental, I didn’t say it was the ice elemental from the blizzard ad, I said it’s likely a variation of this;

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=29624/stormrider

Which would make sense given that these also exist near Titan facilities in Northrend.

“This random trash mob from Northrend makes more sense to be tied to the mount than the achievements datamined in the same patch as the mount with the same encryption key”

Huh?

[Zaganite]

I see Tyr as Tyrael and Odyn as Imperius. It's very classic portrayal of the good lieutenant and tyranical leader

I was thinking this, in the flashbacks we saw Tyr does seem to genuinely care about the Aspects. Now, what happens when he awakens and sees they arent the same as he left is to be decided but Tyr is not the same as Odyn. Very interested to see how Vyrak and Odyn interact in the encrypted in-game cinematic and how the Storm Drakes make it to the Isle

Its almost like we have to change the way we get around

If its underground then mole machiene/ tunnel digger approach instead of flight master? Or the underground network NF has in SL.

I think that's what the Night Fae are supposed to be? Also, I'm still Team Hollow Azeroth. That particular concept makes my brain tingle for some reason lol

Thats exactly what the NF were meant to be but it could be explored so much more. Im onboard for underground/hollow Azeroth! I like Zaralek and didnt get the same feeling others did which I can still respect but Id be a nice setting change

[Teriz]

Actually if you decide to read for once, instead of jump into a response. I also responded to your "Near titan facilities" (Not singular, nope.) being false.

So we're not going to consider items in the same zone to be nearby each other? Okie dokie.

You're reaching. It's adorable, but it's about the same reaching as your:

Tinker is next bruh!
I 100% predicted Evoker bruh!
Tyr is 100% the next expansion villain bruh!

Tinker is an inevitable class in WoW.
I was about the only person on this forum predicting a dragon race/class combination with HotS abilities.
I never stated that Tyr was 100% the next expansion villain. I have no idea where you got that from.

You're talking about:

1 mob in 1 zone, in a side area. Not even near Ulduar or any titan construct (which there are multiple of in Storm Peaks, they are near none of them). Nowhere in WoW is there a Stormrider named mob near any titan facility. So yea, I'd call that reaching.

Again, the Stormrider and Ulduar are both in Storm Peaks.

I'd call your argument against this nit-picking.

[LemonDemonGirl]

Celtic/gaelic themed fae would be ace,

I think that's what the Night Fae are supposed to be?

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Also, I'm still Team Hollow Azeroth. That particular concept makes my brain tingle for some reason lol

[Teriz]

“This random trash mob from Northrend makes more sense to be tied to the mount than the achievements datamined in the same patch as the mount with the same encryption key”

Huh?

Yeah, because those achievements are going to be available in 10.2, and we're going to get Gryphon dragonriding in 10.2, and we're going to be getting Dwarven storm riding gear in the trading post in 10.2. More than likely, none of that has anything to do with 11.0. The only thing likely tied to 11.0 is the Algarian Stormrider, which might have nothing to do with the Dwarf stuff coming in 10.2.

[Kiivar86]

Yeah, because those achievements are going to be available in 10.2, and we're going to get Gryphon dragonriding in 10.2, and we're going to be getting Dwarven gear in the trading post in 10.2. More than likely, none of that has anything to do with 11.0.

Are we getting gryphon dragonriding in 10.2? I know some animations and stuff were found previously but far as I know that hasn't been actually available or confirmed. Unless I missed it since this thread goes a mile a minute at this point.

[Nightshade711]

Yeah, because those achievements are going to be available in 10.2, and we're going to get Gryphon dragonriding in 10.2, and we're going to be getting Dwarven storm riding gear in the trading post in 10.2. More than likely, none of that has anything to do with 11.0. The only thing likely tied to 11.0 is the Algarian Stormrider, which might have nothing to do with the Dwarf stuff coming in 10.2.

Almost as if it’s all for the preorder bonus for 11.0 that’s coming in/around 10.2

(Excluding the trading post items, but they could still be released/themed around the preorder/announcement)

[Teriz]

Are we getting gryphon dragonriding in 10.2? I know some animations and stuff were found previously but far as I know that hasn't been actually available or confirmed. Unless I missed it since this thread goes a mile a minute at this point.

There's a mount that drops from a raid boss in 10.2 that has dragonriding animations and is a fire owl.

[Nightshade711]

Are we getting gryphon dragonriding in 10.2? I know some animations and stuff were found previously but far as I know that hasn't been actually available or confirmed. Unless I missed it since this thread goes a mile a minute at this point.

Yeah, gryphons have dragonriding animations in 10.2.
And the preorder mount for 11.0 is probably a customizable “dragonriding” gryphon based on the datamining.

[Teriz]

Almost as if it’s all for the preorder bonus for 11.0 that’s coming in/around 10.2

(Excluding the trading post items, but they could still be released/themed around the preorder/announcement)

It could be, but that's not very likely. More than likely, it's to recognize dragonriding getting expanded to Gryphons in 10.2 which more than likely has nothing to do with 11.0. That said, I will say that the Algarian Stormrider's name is an interesting tie-in, and because of that I can't say that it is 100% one way or another.

[lanerios]

Yeah, because those achievements are going to be available in 10.2, and we're going to get Gryphon dragonriding in 10.2, and we're going to be getting Dwarven storm riding gear in the trading post in 10.2. More than likely, none of that has anything to do with 11.0. The only thing likely tied to 11.0 is the Algarian Stormrider, which might have nothing to do with the Dwarf stuff coming in 10.2.

Please provide any factual evidence for the above. I'll wait. Because your headcanon is not factual evidence.

[Izalla]

Guys Marlamin has already posted about how likely the mount and pet and achievements are to be related to the pre-order, and he has way more experience and knowledge in this area than Teriz, who will never admit someone understands better than he does about anything apparently. No need to argue about this AGAIN when we know he won't budge and the actual dataminer has already given an opinion.

Do we have any clues to what happens with Odyn besides that the stormdrakes follow Vyranoth back to the Isles? Any indication as to what Odyn is doing after the confrontation?

[Polybius]

Guys Marlamin has already posted about how likely the mount and pet and achievements are to be related to the pre-order, and he has way more experience and knowledge in this area than Teriz, who will never admit someone understands better than he does about anything apparently. No need to argue about this AGAIN when we know he won't budge and the actual dataminer has already given an opinion.

Do we have any clues to what happens with Odyn besides that the stormdrakes follow Vyranoth back to the Isles? Any indication as to what Odyn is doing after the confrontation?

He's likely going to make us prove our worth for 18th time. Other than that, dunno if Ilgynoth's quote continues to be relevant: "The lord of ravens will turn the key."

[PotHockets]

Guys Marlamin has already posted about how likely the mount and pet and achievements are to be related to the pre-order, and he has way more experience and knowledge in this area than Teriz, who will never admit someone understands better than he does about anything apparently. No need to argue about this AGAIN when we know he won't budge and the actual dataminer has already given an opinion.

Do we have any clues to what happens with Odyn besides that the stormdrakes follow Vyranoth back to the Isles? Any indication as to what Odyn is doing after the confrontation?

Probably/hopefully busy polishing his loot table and practicing his on pull one liners.

[Sydrache]

Was the mr gm thing a ruse? Did anything come out of that that wasn't related to rumble? We need some new leaks Teriz is making this thread less enjoyable

[lanerios]

Guys Marlamin has already posted about how likely the mount and pet and achievements are to be related to the pre-order, and he has way more experience and knowledge in this area than Teriz, who will never admit someone understands better than he does about anything apparently. No need to argue about this AGAIN when we know he won't budge and the actual dataminer has already given an opinion.

Do we have any clues to what happens with Odyn besides that the stormdrakes follow Vyranoth back to the Isles? Any indication as to what Odyn is doing after the confrontation?

You are right, I sadly fell for the obvious Teriz/Troll bait.



I really hope we finally get some closure on the Helya/Odyn storyline. Besides Helya showing up in Shadowlands for absolutely 0 use we haven't heard much.