The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

This is perhaps one of your biggest stretches.

This was knowledge for a long time. Nowhere has Blizzard said gryphon dragonriding is coming 10.2.

There are also Storm Rider achievements, Storm Rider gear in the trading shop in 10.2, and that mount that drops from Fryakk which uses dragonriding animations.

Also if you believe that the Heroic edition mount is a Gryphon that can dragonride, Blizzard would have to have gryphon dragonriding in 10.2.

[Woke it Up]

Which tells me that all the dwarven "storm rider" gear and achievements are in place to celebrate Gryphons getting the ability to dragonride in 10.2.

Peorder bonus, get the first gryphon that can dragonfly ahead of general availability in 10.2.5. 100% features in the cinematic proving west exists

[Teriz]

None of them support dragonriding in client data yet, though. Animations is a part of dragonriding support, but not the same thing as dragonriding support.

The key point is yet. If it's not in 10.2, there's 10.2.X and so forth. I seriously doubt they're going to hold this feature until 11.0.

Peorder bonus, get the first gryphon that can dragonfly ahead of general availability in 10.2.5. 100% features in the cinematic proving west exists

Maybe. I could see Blizzard doing that.....

[FelPlague]

There are also Storm Rider achievements, Storm Rider gear in the trading shop in 10.2, and that mount that drops from Fryakk which uses dragonriding animations.

Also if you believe that the Heroic edition mount is a Gryphon that can dragonride, Blizzard would have to have gryphon dragonriding in 10.2.

And I wonder when the pre-purchase for the next expansion will come out
SURELY NOT IN 10.2 RIGHT!?

No blizzard would NOT have to have grpyhon dragon riding in 10.2
and the mount fryakk drops is NOT A GRPYHON it is an entirely different model.

[Ersula]

The ironbound protodrake has those animations, it has since 10.0
so i guess the ironbound protodrake can dragon ride too right?
Just no one has tried since 10.0 right?

They can if Blizzard developers enables them to. And with those strings & animation nothing is stopping them from doing that. They just haven't. Conversely they wouldn't immediately have that option for a mount in which those strings & animation do not exist. Stop pretending you don't understand that was the point of the conversation you were replying to.

[FelPlague]

The key point is yet. If it's not in 10.2, there's 10.2.X and so forth. I seriously doubt they're going to hold this feature until 11.0.

They are not adding dragon riding to ALL GRYPHONS in 10.2
they are adding a grpyhon that will be able to dragon ride, but because of how skeletons work, all grpyhons now have the animations, just not all of them can access said animations.

with the launch of the dragonflight prepatch for example, ALL PROTODRAKES now had the animations required to dragon ride.
but I don't think I need to say you cannot dragon ride on all protodrakes, only the dragon riding protodrake, because that is how animations on skeletons work.

[Teriz]

And I wonder when the pre-purchase for the next expansion will come out
SURELY NOT IN 10.2 RIGHT!?

The pre-purchase will be available in 10.2, since BlizzCon is in November and the next expansion will be revealed along with the pre-order. The last expansion announced at a BlizzCon was Shadowlands, and it's pre-order popped up immediately after the announcement.

[Marlamin]

Also if you believe that the Heroic edition mount is a Gryphon that can dragonride, Blizzard would have to have gryphon dragonriding in 10.2.

While it would be nice/possible, this is factually inaccurate. A mount is not the same thing as its model, a static-only mount can have the exact same model as a dragonriding-only mount or even a mount that does both of them at the same time. That is just how the data is set up.

The key point is yet. If it's not in 10.2, there's 10.2.X and so forth. I seriously doubt they're going to hold this feature until 11.0.

Right, but you said it was in 10.2, which as of the current PTR build is not correct nor confirmed. I think it's important to be clear when claiming things as "coming in 10.2" so people don't get false expectations.

[FelPlague]

They can if Blizzard developers enables them to. And with those strings & animation nothing is stopping them from doing that. They just haven't. Stop pretending you don't understand that was the point of the conversation you were replying to.

And nothing is stopping them from enabling all old dragon mounts from dragon riding RIGHT NOW, and yet that does not mean its proof of anything for the next expansion does it?
Teriz is saying that gryphons are getting the ability to dragon ride in this patch, which means its proof it is not the expansion bonus mount, cause then why would it be in 10.2 and not 11.0?
When the whole point is thats not how shit works.

you are literally so blind from ignorance.
Marlamin is literally a super smart genius on this stuff, listen to them, we are saying the same thing, I am just being less polite about it cause this is legit exhausting seeing people just talk out their ass when they understand nothing about how stuff they are talking about works.


Gryphon models in 10.2 now having the animations to dragon ride does not prove that ALL GRPYHONS WILL BE ABLE TO DRAGON RIDE it just proves there is ATLEAST 1 grpyhon that will be able to dragon ride.
same way that all the dragon mounts got the animations to dragon ride in 10.0, but only the dragon riding drakes got the ability to dragon ride.
And there is 1 datamined grpyhon mount that is brand new and looks awfully stormy.

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The pre-purchase will be available in 10.2, since BlizzCon is in November and the next expansion will be revealed along with the pre-order. The last expansion announced at a BlizzCon was Shadowlands, and it's pre-order popped up immediately after the announcement.

Mhm, and when you pre-purchase the heroic version of the expansion what comes with that?
Hmmm maybe the collectors edition mount?

[Dancaris]

What do you think about character selection screen? I think its totally outdated. What your idea of new character screen?
My wishes - custom backgrounds, maybe some posing to standart T-pose. And change that list thing with 11 characters. If I have more they just dont show up. Maybe put it in lower part of screen?
On sidenote - I really wanna see my alts ingame aside my character. If we gonna receive housing - I wish that I could place my alts there. Imagine big mansion, where dwarves drinks in kitchen, elf druid in bear form sleeps under some tree. And warriors sparring.

[ChairmanKaga]

Since when has preorder been available at the Blizzcon a year out from the expansion?

[ro9ue]

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I know this is from Chrionicles, but it would be great, if we got a updated version of this.

Yeah that's badass. Really liked the little preview we got during the DF questline where we run through the old god era and saw them fighting on the structures.

[Cheezits]

Please, someone drop a legitimate leak or datamine find so we don't get Teriz argument for 50 pages.

[Ersula]

Teriz is saying that gryphons are getting the ability to dragon ride in this patch, which means its proof it is not the expansion bonus mount, cause then why would it be in 10.2 and not 11.0?
When the whole point is thats not how shit works. you are literally so blind from ignorance.

Yeah I don't understand why he's saying a pre-purchase feature can't be added before the expansion patch, because features have been added beforehand, like Allied Races. But that doesn't mean you have to be so aggressive & mean-spirited about it. You should be reported for flaming & general harassment.

Right, but you said it was in 10.2, which as of the current PTR build is not correct nor confirmed. I think it's important to be clear when claiming things as "coming in 10.2" so people don't get false expectations.

He said "if the pre-order mount is a gryphon" which is a safe condition. Sorry for expecting speculation in a speculation thread.

Marlamin is literally a super smart genius on this stuff, listen to them, we are saying the same thing, I am just being less polite about it cause this is legit exhausting seeing people just talk out their ass when they understand nothing about how stuff they are talking about works.

10 pages ago Teriz was saying Gryphons can't possibly get flying by the time the pre-order is out. All things considered his new comments are a huge improvement. Literally everyone was championing the idea of a new Dragonriding Gryphon mount. So why are you singling him out for the sake of saying something that isn't 100% confirmed in a speculation thread?

[Jodmos]

Those animations were added to ALL gryphon mounts, new and old.

According to MRGM in a reply to his own tweet it's only the old gryphons that had them added. (at the time of his tweet)

[FelPlague]

Yeah I don't understand why he's saying a pre-purchase feature can't be added before the expansion patch, because features have been added beforehand, like Allied Races. But that doesn't mean you have to be so aggressive & mean-spirited about it. You should be reported for flaming & general harassment.

Cause hes spent a good few 100 or so posts constantly saying "no you are wrong, i am right, and here is why" and then saying the most stupidist shit ever, and its exhausting? Plus it is all that seems to work with "Tinkers 100% for real this time, you are wrong if you disagree" Teriz.

[Bwgmon]

Yeah that's badass. Really liked the little preview we got during the DF questline where we run through the old god era and saw them fighting on the structures.

There's something exceptionally funny about Therazane just lying there with spears and chains on her like ": )"

[Worldshaper]

No, that is not what I'm saying, at all.

I'm simply pointing out that you're equating Cataclysm and Dragonflight because of the lists you made (and even those lists don't match 1:1), but those lists of yours would also equate DF to other expansions, such as Wrath, and even vanilla. And on top of that you make some broad generalizations (the 'cultists' thing) that undermines your attempts at claiming DF is a 'mirror' of Cataclysm.

By the way, your comparison also fails because I'm not saying that Dragonflight is a continuation of the World of Warcraft story, like you implied in your comparison of "no correlation between The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings". All I'm saying is that Cataclysm and Dragonflight are not mirrors of each other.

Go ahead, then.

Make a list that shows 10 major similarities between Dragonflight and any other expansion, except for Cataclysm. I can't wait for all these similarities between Dragonflight and Legion or BfA.

[Marlamin]

According to MRGM in a reply to his own tweet it's only the old gryphons that had them added.

It's all mount models that use the base gryphon rig, so there's likely an encrypted mount that uses that rig (possibly but not necessarily a gryphon) that can dragonride. That's about as deep as the rabbit hole goes.

[Teriz]

They are not adding dragon riding to ALL GRYPHONS in 10.2
they are adding a grpyhon that will be able to dragon ride, but because of how skeletons work, all grpyhons now have the animations, just not all of them can access said animations.

So you believe that Blizzard is going only add one dragonriding gryphon in 10.2 and not simply unlock it for all gryphon mounts?

with the launch of the dragonflight prepatch for example, ALL PROTODRAKES now had the animations required to dragon ride.
but I don't think I need to say you cannot dragon ride on all protodrakes, only the dragon riding protodrake, because that is how animations on skeletons work.

So you think they're not going to allow gryphon dragonriding (outside of a single one) for the remainder of the expansion?