The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

The problem with racial campaigns is that that's essentially the niche that heritage quests are filling.

And wow has 24 seperate playable races.
While you can group up corresponding core races/ARs together, quite a few of them would lose their spotlight in favor of the other.

E.g, Zandalari and Trolls would be grouped, but lets not pretend that the Darkspear would get the most focus in that scenario.
Or how the Dranei and Velen would overshadow anything to do with the LFd, etc.



You mean... capital cities?

Heritage questlines are more about celebrating old lore. Whereas what future racial storylines in revamped zones might do, and indeed should do, is introduce the races to new players.
It's not easy for a new player to know the first thing about the Forsaken for instance. You have the opening blurb, and the basic stuff that you can glean from the starting levelling. But for one that isn't even an option for new players. And secondly it's massively outdated.

All races should get some quests that explain what they are. What motivations guide them generally. And what you should expect from them in the future.
In the case of Forsaken. What makes them undead, and why they get raised. What Forsaken society looks like. And showing stuff like Forsaken trying to make new settlements.

[Shadochi]

So, other than new continent/old world revamp, what features want and what do you expect?

Do you think we would get a new class so soon? I think it would be possible:
- The time spent on borrowed power is no free to use on classes (we've seen it in this expansion, with them revamping specs without having to wait to the next one)
- The addition of the evoker support spec makes me think they have more in mind. It's a bit weird to add just one new role and leave it there.

New races are also a possibility. I think we only got 1 because they didn't want to move the focus from the Evoker, and also they needed a specific rig for it. So they made that, and the visage form as a bonus.

tbh I would be down for a borrowed power system BUT only for outdoors content and make the progression account wide (and I guess weekly caps that are account wide if its a grindy type).
BP in a similar sense would work in instanced PVE or PVP too but it just wouldn't feel that good losing it

[Nerdslime]

So, other than new continent/old world revamp, what features want and what do you expect?

Do you think we would get a new class so soon? I think it would be possible:
- The time spent on borrowed power is no free to use on classes (we've seen it in this expansion, with them revamping specs without having to wait to the next one)
- The addition of the evoker support spec makes me think they have more in mind. It's a bit weird to add just one new role and leave it there.

New races are also a possibility. I think we only got 1 because they didn't want to move the focus from the Evoker, and also they needed a specific rig for it. So they made that, and the visage form as a bonus.

- I don't think we're going to get a new class.
- I think we will get a couple new support specs, probably some of them dropping as patch content. I hope Blizzard reverses course and reconsiders their "not changing old specs to support" policy, which I know is a controversial opinion because people hold their specs very near and dear.
- I don't think we'll get an 11.0 race but I wouldn't be surprised to see an Allied Race batch in 11.2 or something.
- I hope for a casual gameplay pillar like Torghast or Islands with better implementation and incorporating the lessons they painfully learned last go-around.
- I hope for the return of Class Order Halls, or something very similar. I really liked the Class Order structure but I could see them switching it up into something more like Covenants or something like that again. I think Class Order Halls were a huge hit and I think Blizzard will want to recapture something like that.
- I'd like more server-wide, collaborative things. Like contributing to X or Y, or unlocking A or B. We need to build villages and gain bonuses in zones and stuff again, things that made the world feel reactive. I don't exactly expect this, per se, but I'd like it.
- I think we're gonna see more low-effort "invasion" mechanics littering zones. It's become kind of ridiculous in Dragonflight so I'd like them to learn a new trick but I won't hold my breath.
- In a long-shot sort of way, one of my eternal desires is housing with a system where professions and old content collide to provide furnishings and decor.

[NikolaiShade]

So, other than new continent/old world revamp, what features want and what do you expect?

Do you think we would get a new class so soon? I think it would be possible:
- The time spent on borrowed power is no free to use on classes (we've seen it in this expansion, with them revamping specs without having to wait to the next one)
- The addition of the evoker support spec makes me think they have more in mind. It's a bit weird to add just one new role and leave it there.

New races are also a possibility. I think we only got 1 because they didn't want to move the focus from the Evoker, and also they needed a specific rig for it. So they made that, and the visage form as a bonus.

Reasonable expectations: more customizations options, more class/race combos (maybe?) and maybe some specs reworked into support (mostly for pure dps classes).

For unreasonable and crazy hopes: a borrowed power for outdoor content like @Shadochi said, a new race (or two, Broken and Ogres) and class skins (yeah)

[Shadochi]

s and gain bonuses in zones and stuff again, things that made the world feel reactive. I don't exactly expect this, per se, but I'd like it.
- I think we're gonna see more low-effort "invasion" mechanics littering zones. It's become kind of ridiculous in Dragonflight so I'd like them to learn a new trick but I won't hold my breath.

Regarding this, I suspect they will tone it down in the next expansion, they have a good track record recently with toning down stuff people complain about. And DF has just been 1-3 invasion mechanics per patch

[pacotaco]

- I don't think we're going to get a new class.
- I think we will get a couple new support specs, probably some of them dropping as patch content. I hope Blizzard reverses course and reconsiders their "not changing old specs to support" policy, which I know is a controversial opinion because people hold their specs very near and dear.

Disc Priest would probable end changed into support (it's already half way).
They could easily add a couple of classes with 1 of the specs being support (tinker and night warrior) that also uses the underutilized types of gear (mail, bows/crossbows/rifles, glaives). I think it would be better: new class sells better than changing roles of existing specs.

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Reasonable expectations: more customizations options, more class/race combos (maybe?) and maybe some specs reworked into support (mostly for pure dps classes).

For unreasonable and crazy hopes: a borrowed power for outdoor content like @Shadochi said, a new race (or two, Broken and Ogres) and class skins (yeah)

Class skins would be cool too.

[Nerdslime]

Regarding this, I suspect they will tone it down in the next expansion, they have a good track record recently with toning down stuff people complain about. And DF has just been 1-3 invasion mechanics per patch

I hope you're right. I genuinely have a ton of faith in Blizzard and I think I am much more positive than negative about WoW and Blizzard than a lot of people but even I had a bit of a slack-jawed moment when I saw yet another invasion/storm/whatever.

Disc Priest would probable end changed into support (it's already half way).
They could easily add a couple of classes with 1 of the specs being support (tinker and night warrior) that also uses the underutilized types of gear (mail, bows/crossbows/rifles, glaives). I think it would be better: new class sells better than changing roles of existing specs.

Yeah, this isn't the best thread for the Support spec conversation but Disc is a perfect example of an existing spec I wish they'd turn into Support despite Blizz saying they don't plan to do so. Others include Arms Warrior planting banners to buff the party, Balance druid buffing healing and damage for the party based on moon phases, etc.

[FossilFree]

I still think we will get at least one more patch in Dragonflight that unlocks paladins, shamans, and druids for all. Paladins have been set up with the new Tyr's Guard, shamans through the primalist/Vyranoth connection, and druids through the Dream Wardens.

[Shadochi]

Wonder if they are ever going to add more metalic dragons (so far we only have bronze) seeing how we mostly have chromatic. Seeing the silver scale when I did the quest at first, I thought that the scale would lead to a new Silver Flight

[Revamp Man]

Well, it's for certain mortals, and that's what I'm pondering tbh. I seriously think we were able to activate it due to our special link with Azeroth (hell, that was Ions explanation during Blizzcon 2019), but it is possible the First Ones in particular gave us a unique buff.

Soooo chosen ones

[Zers Editor]

Wonder if they are ever going to add more metalic dragons (so far we only have bronze) seeing how we mostly have chromatic. Seeing the silver scale when I did the quest at first, I thought that the scale would lead to a new Silver Flight

The White Scales will most likely be a reward for the completing Tyr's quest line. We have the While Whelp NPC, but no idea if it will turn out related to Tyr in the story or it will show itself in the encrypted Aberrus map.

[Shadochi]

The White Scales will most likely be a reward for the completing Tyr's quest line. We have the While Whelp NPC, but no idea if it will turn out related to Tyr in the story or it will show itself in the encrypted Aberrus map.

I meant more like more flights in lore, not just customizations

[CasualFilth]

I want Class Quests back tbh. Spanning the whole duration of the expansion and getting updated every major patch... I think it's doable

[Xilurm]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/an-unli...nst-the-335284

So many characters to choose from and they chose these two to team up. Sigh...

[PotHockets]

Well, not quite. The actually close thing is Khaz Algar, since it seems the best bet for the source of the name Algar-ian. But since Khaz Algar is not a known place located in EK/Kalimdor, it seems to lean away from revamp.

While I do think it's pretty obviously a reference to Khaz Algar that doesn't make it anything other than speculation at this point. I'm kinda hoping it is the other side of Azeroth though because I've been wanting to see that for like 15 years now.

[Dragon ANX]

I wonder if they could use “storm riding” to get to the new continent (and/or new zones added in patches) using this system.

Someone mentioned it could be like the Kessel run which I could see them using this system for.
Now how fun that’d actually be in practice is yet to be seen.

That seems very possible, it would be cool to travel through storms to get to the new zone.

[Shadochi]

An interesting way to do loading screens using the airlock system would be to have you fly (dragon) through storms, and if its easier for them just have the dragon go into autopilot while the loading completes (the storm would easily cover up the preloading issues that Marla mentioned fog over open ocean would be needed)

[Reive]

these couple of weeks should be spicy. next week the microsoft deal should finally close (assuming nothing else happens). hopefully we also get some new leak

[Bwgmon]

An interesting way to do loading screens using the airlock system would be to have you fly (dragon) through storms, and if its easier for them just have the dragon go into autopilot while the loading completes (the storm would easily cover up the preloading issues that Marla mentioned fog over open ocean would be needed)

Hyperspecific thing to want, if they did something like this, I hope someone makes a weakaura or something that mimics the level transitions from the Spyro games, so the camera spins and a bunch of gems plop down across the screen until you "zone in."



Or maybe it could track currencies and drop icons representing those instead or something.

[Revamp Man]

Ehhh depends on what the actual answer is. Right now tho, the answer is that we're lucky and the eventualities played out uniquely.

Right now we are the prophesied ones

That's based on the information we have not what ifs