The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Something a bit closer to the Diablo Demon Hunter?

Warcraft Demon Hunters are just Blood and Night elves of all kinds picked up for Demon Hunter training so having an archer spec for them does make sense.

[Ersula]

I can already see the artwork they'd use for the Bard specs:

Mosh (Tank)

Thrash (Support DPS)

Ballad (Healing)

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Those are not actually the canon wielders. They're just NPCs placed within the cutscenes since they can't replicate random players outta nowhere with the artifacts that way.

Blizzard has a ton of quest with NPC’s meant to represent other random players, literally nothing stoped them from doing it again for that cutscene.

These are the canon wielders.

[Cheezits]

I wonder what the possibility is of Erinethria's brood in the West being some form of rethought Dragonriders of Loreth'Aran. They were notably absent from mention this expansion.

VERY likely, as they are not at all included in the Dragonriding expansion. I thought they would pop up in the dream but them escaping west makes sense (they were the farthest west Nelf settlement AFAIK).

And are never ever getting an expansion without Nelves in a major role ever again anyway. Unless they turned into Jinyu?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Sure but they ALWAYS either interpret it as your character, or as an unknown NPC with a generic set on them. It's not actually another player or anything like that. So, in a way, you're right but you're also wrong. My point still stands regarding the artifacts

Yes it always is unknown NPC and again there is no reason they couldn’t have done that again instead of using actual lore character, they wouldn’t even need to give said NPC’s name just use the order hall titles like death lord.

The fact that they instead choose to use actual characters shows us who they want to use in canon.

[Murlocos]

So what did they bring her back for?

We're still waiting to see.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

They used actual lore characters to give the class halls a proper representation without needing to create random "heroes".

And again if they wanted you the “random
Hero” to actually be the character with these items in the lore they would have made more “random hero’s” to represent that just like they did else where in legion like with thunder fury.

But they didn’t they used lore characters because that’s what they want the canon to be.

[huth]

Blizzard has a ton of quest with NPC’s meant to represent other random players, literally nothing stoped them from doing it again for that cutscene.

These are the canon wielders.

So how do you explain that Liadrin has not canonically wielded Ashbringer at any point in time? You're projecting your own headcanon interpretation on Blizzard there. These characters only ever hold the artifacts in that one cutscene, and you never get all of them, either. They are not the canon wielders. They're solely there so you don't stand on the ship by yourself like a dork.

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Yes it always is unknown NPC and again there is no reason they couldn’t have done that again instead of using actual lore character, they wouldn’t even need to give said NPC’s name just use the order hall titles like death lord.

They actually do. Seems you missed that. If they talk about the canonical DK champion from Legion, it's "the Deathlord". Not the guy holding the DK artifact being drained into the sword.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

We're still waiting to see.

to sell her murlock pet.

[Well Done Steak]

I can already see the artwork they'd use for the Bard specs:

Mosh (Tank)

Thrash (Support DPS)

Ballad (Healing)

Can't see tank n heals links.

Also what's a fourth?

[Lady Atia]

And again if they wanted you the “random
Hero” to actually be the character with these items in the lore they would have made more “random hero’s” to represent that just like they did else where in legion like with thunder fury.

But they didn’t they used lore characters because that’s what they want the canon to be.

Wrong, they actually answered that in some random interview - they just choosed some npc's to represent the characters during the cutscene 'cause it was cheep, they are NOT the canon wielders.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I guess soon we should get "this week in wow" blue post.

[Murlocos]

to sell her murlock pet.

the 200 IQ setup, in the works since Legion

[Amstrup]

I wonder what goes through people's head when they think bard could be a rogue spec.

You are so desperate to discuss anything that you will accept the most absurd ideas.

[Hitei]

I wonder what goes through people's head when they think bard could be a rogue spec.

You are so desperate to discuss anything that you will accept the most absurd ideas.

That the archetype heavily overlaps with thieves in older fantasy settings.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

What do you mean "datamining"? Ysera flat-out told everybody it was going to be Merithra.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. The models for Ebonhorn and Merithra's Aspect forms were found in 10.2. Ice Dragon joining the Aspects was also spoiled due to an icon found as well.

Yes, the "leak" is pretty much what we assumed. Most have been spelled out for us in questlines or can be found in 10.2 datamining, but even if it's obvious, doesn't mean people don't expect something completely different. The only thing not a given is the Alex and Tyr confrontation and final boss of Tyr's story being Mordoth. Neither of these would be very surprising.

[Bwgmon]

I've never seen Liadrin or co get called by the respective Class Orderhall titles. Imma assume Liadrin wasn't the Highlord, and as a result, imma assume she didn't wield the Ashbringer either. Wanna know why? Cause lore wise, the champion Paladin wielded the Ashbringer and became the Highlord, and in game, I represented that champion.

This whole conversation is really just highlighting what a clusterfuck the whole "You're the super one-of-a-kind hero" thing was.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

So how do you explain that Liadrin has not canonically wielded Ashbringer at any point in time? You're projecting your own headcanon interpretation on Blizzard there. These characters only ever hold the artifacts in that one cutscene, and you never get all of them, either. They are not the canon wielders. They're solely there so you don't stand on the ship by yourself like a dork.

the same way Darian wasn’t the weirder of the ashbringer in classic, the game lets you have it but when it comes to the actual canon you never did and it was her getting it instead.

They actually do. Seems you missed that. If they talk about the canonical DK champion from Legion, it's "the Deathlord". Not the guy holding the DK artifact being drained into the sword.

I haven’t done every SL quest on multiple characters but I don’t believe they ever mention a death lord unless you are a DK and in that case you are just taking the place for gameplay purposes just like with the ashbringer.

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Wrong, they actually answered that in some random interview - they just choosed some npc's to represent the characters during the cutscene 'cause it was cheep, they are NOT the canon wielders.

Could you link said interview then?

[Nymrohd]

I have to say, if we are not going to get Revamp, I hope Metzen reminds the team that what WoW does right is RULE OF COOL and delivers something EPIC. Not dragon ladies talking about their feelings.

[Paula Deen]

Razageth Was the storm eater, don’t think she ever had tempest mentioned related to her.

Although we moved well past this from what I skimmed at this point, I would like to point out that the Opening Cinematic to the Prepatch she was called an 'Unleashed Tempest" and the Prepatch Event itself was called Tempest Unleashed AFAIK.