The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Do we know of Khaz Algar is a snowy zone ?

All we know is it has earthen and it is some form of fissure. We don't even know if it is an aboveground fissure (a sinkhole) or an underground fissure (an abyss). We can also assume that it has a culture that utilizes gryphons which does suggest that it is aboveground and thematically it should mean that the fissure is large enough that the need to traverse it forced the locals to develop a method of flight

[Worldshaper]

It would be very cool if they did some cool event in the retail lore that explains "Classic +".

For example if Chromie discovers that the timelines branched off around the Second or Third War, and we actually get to see it in a scenario in-game. The bronze flight splits up, with some choosing to stay in the other one.

Both versions have updated HD textures for Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms.

But in "Classic +", Silvermoon remains on the Alliance and the Ogres remain within the Horde. They could even introduce those races in retail, saying they stumbled out of a portal during this event.

[Santandame]

Do we know of Khaz Algar is a snowy zone ?

We have no idea what it will be like except for that it seemingly has features and the mount suggests it may be a zone afflicted by storms of some kind.

My prediction is that it is a zone similar to the Shattered Plains from Brandon Sanderson’s Stormlight Archive series. A ruinous, craggy, rocky wasteland which has fissures and ravines running through it with hidden cities and terrifying monsters hidden beneath as well as perpetual storms within the area.

[Woggmer]

change wow to f2p
turn trading post into a season pass with pay and free lines

That's a good way to kill the game... especially since the whole point of a season pass is to be an extreme grind and offer auxiliary rewards like gold, materials, exp, pointless stuff you can get from other activities.

[Nymrohd]

This is my version of Khaz Algar

[Lady Atia]

That's a good way to kill the game... especially since the whole point of a season pass is to be an extreme grind and offer auxiliary rewards like gold, materials, exp, pointless stuff you can get from other activities.

I don't know, diablo4 and hearthstone both have quite cool battlepasses so I wouldn't mind something like that for WoW, with the current trading post being the "free to play" version. Would also prolly be cheeper for me as I currently run two wow accounts 'cause of the weirdly small character limit ...

[Wangming]

It would be very cool if they did some cool event in the retail lore that explains "Classic +".

For example if Chromie discovers that the timelines branched off around the Second or Third War, and we actually get to see it in a scenario in-game. The bronze flight splits up, with some choosing to stay in the other one.

100% on board with this idea.
The only thing I'm not 100% sure of is how they are going to keep up with the lore. I mean they shoot themselves in the arse even with one timeline.

[Lady Atia]

This is my version of Khaz Algar

Ngl, I actually get nauseous trying to identify what these statues next to the gate are supposed to be lol.

[Wangming]

This is my version of Khaz Algar

Definitely stormy.

[Nymrohd]

I don't understand the concept of Classic+ on the scale some people suggest. Are they going to force the artists to create visuals at the level classic has for it?

[Lady Atia]

It would be very cool if they did some cool event in the retail lore that explains "Classic +".

For example if Chromie discovers that the timelines branched off around the Second or Third War, and we actually get to see it in a scenario in-game. The bronze flight splits up, with some choosing to stay in the other one.

Both versions have updated HD textures for Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms.

But in "Classic +", Silvermoon remains on the Alliance and the Ogres remain within the Horde. They could even introduce those races in retail, saying they stumbled out of a portal during this event.

Classic+ would only work if they actually connect it to retail imo. Make it so that we can earn rewards from classic itself but also classic+ and later send our characters over to the real WoW. Or just have the classic+ servers actually be on the retail list and have the achievement/mounts/transmog system connected to it (which honestly, should happen anyways, either via a new season of X or classic+ or whatever - bring back old rewards, but have people work for them, which is 100000x better than just puting them into the trading post), but have the characters stay on the classic side of it.

[Nymrohd]

Definitely stormy.

Not enough I should try the prompt again and tell it to rain lightning.
OK this time it actually made the architecture look very much like warcraft dwarf, I could see this for a fake leak.

[JMitchy96]

Think the mods of these forums need to enforce some concrete rules on posting AI images. Regardless of your opinions on AI "art", posting one sentence and an AI image to a thread isn't exactly contributing to a discussion.

[Draedarr]

Classic+ would only work if they actually connect it to retail imo. Make it so that we can earn rewards from classic itself but also classic+ and later send our characters over to the real WoW. Or just have the classic+ servers actually be on the retail list and have the achievement/mounts/transmog system connected to it (which honestly, should happen anyways, either via a new season of X or classic+ or whatever - bring back old rewards, but have people work for them, which is 100000x better than just puting them into the trading post), but have the characters stay on the classic side of it.

Nowadays with more developers it could be doable, but i don't think it would work, because even something on Retail goes behind scale and more droughts appear, the fols would be furious.

Think the mods of these forums need to enforce some concrete rules on posting AI images. Regardless of your opinions on AI "art", posting one sentence and an AI image to a thread isn't exactly contributing to a discussion.

200% aggree, as "AI" is not even art, it's theft of other peoples works.

[Nymrohd]

Think the mods of these forums need to enforce some concrete rules on posting AI images. Regardless of your opinions on AI "art", posting one sentence and an AI image to a thread isn't exactly contributing to a discussion.

I am describing how I'd see the zone in a picture. If THIS is your issue and not the constant derailment, damn.

[Santandame]

Think the mods of these forums need to enforce some concrete rules on posting AI images. Regardless of your opinions on AI "art", posting one sentence and an AI image to a thread isn't exactly contributing to a discussion.

Nymrohd has stated it’s AI and that it is how they envision Khaz Algar. They haven’t attempted to deceive anyone.

This is an extremely odd complaint. Would you be fine if they had painted it instead?

It’s promoting discussion surrounding a zone we are almost definitely going to visit in the upcoming expansion.

[Nebron]

Think the mods of these forums need to enforce some concrete rules on posting AI images. Regardless of your opinions on AI "art", posting one sentence and an AI image to a thread isn't exactly contributing to a discussion.

Why? Still better than 20 pages of discussion on what "stormrider" stands for. If it's not marked as "leaked" I even find it enjoyable to see how people imagine locations or concepts that are part of this speculation.

[Nymrohd]

I even find it enjoyable to see how people imagine locations or concepts that are part of this speculation.

I think generating concepts really helps as visualize what we'd want to see and people will react far better to a visual aid than a vague description (of which I have given many). I will say that if we suddenly got inundated with generated concepts, that would probably not be helpful.

[Wangming]

I don't understand the concept of Classic+ on the scale some people suggest. Are they going to force the artists to create visuals at the level classic has for it?

No I don't think so. It is not literally "like Classic but with more stuff".
What it means is...stop adopting the previous expansions for Classic after a time and do something different with the timeline instead. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that nobody wants WoD Classic.

[Shadochi]

This is my version of Khaz Algar
[IMG]https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.jAbm7GsWNQSRaFQYjm7j?pid=ImgGn[IMG]

Not gonna lie, it would be epic if they could pull something like this off, and honestly I think they could. Of course in game its never gonna look as epic and grands as on drawings, but the general idea of the expac capital town being on top of a cliff overlooking a rapid river, "oasis" terraced area midway down with greenery and waterfalls and a HUGE entrance to either a massive underground area, a raid, or both (and with airlock tech that is quite doable).
Whenever I see ideas like that, or work on my own worldbuilding, It saddens me that we no longer get wings of dungeons and such (for example have a raid and 1-3 dungeons with similar assets related to the raid). Besides boss encounter it seems to be mostly just reusing assets.
With how DF S1 started with us having only half the dungeons in the rotation, I hoped that would mean we would also get more dungeons through the expansion besides the 1 mega dungeon, so that like each season can have 4 DF dungeons + 4 other, and then final season maybe all 12 DF. But alas seems like at lest for DF it isn't the case.