The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Wangming]

The real question would be how that didn't happen when Sargeras shoved that giant piece of metal into it.

Because the writers are dumb?
I mean Deathwing bursting up from Deepholm Caused the entire world to go tit's up. But Sargeras stabbing the world with a sword bigger than D-man didn't even cause a quake. The whole thing should have triggered a second cataclysm, not just a few fountains of azerite. Come to think of it, are people still using that stuff, or did that just stop after N'Zoth awakened and we had bigger problems?

[ZyntosAran]

Could the next xpack involve a battle pass? Think about it - every Blizzard game currently has one. What stops them adding one to WoW?

we have a battle pass. its called Trading Post.

[Wangming]

Could the next xpack involve a battle pass? Think about it - every Blizzard game currently has one. What stops them adding one to WoW?

Isn't the Traders' Tender a Battle Pass of sorts?

[Sondrelk]

The real question would be how that didn't happen when Sargeras shoved that giant piece of metal into it.

Aqir activity caused the bedrock to collapse?
Doesn't have to be elaborate at all. Just say that C'thun or the Titan Keepers are behind it.

[KayRule]

Towellie has done this bit the last two expansions and I don't know why people even bother to pay him any mind.

He vastly overhyped the DF expac reveal, heavily hinting it was a revamp and repeatedly calling it "huge" and "alot of people will be very happy".

While I love Dragonflight and it's my favorite expansion, it's announcement was very mild. It scaling down and not announcing a ton of features to be abandoned was good, but Towelie hyping all that up for what amounted to "talent trees and a UI revamp" really showed he didn't know shit. He was hyping things up, being vague and cold reading what he thought was going to happen, so after the fact it would seem like he had inside knowledge if it panned out. He did the same thing with Shadowlands, going ALL in on the fake map and fake leaks, and then tried to spin that he was right all along when a different expansion entirely but also called Shadowlands came out.

Bellular also has 17 videos in the past 30 days claiming a variation of knowing the expansion theme/the expansion has leaked bouncing from Voidstorm to Pirates to Dwarfs on a whim, so I wouldn't give him much attention either.

[Sondrelk]

Towellie has done this bit the last two expansions and I don't know why people even bother to pay him any mind.

He vastly overhyped the DF expac reveal, heavily hinting it was a revamp and repeatedly calling it "huge" and "alot of people will be very happy".

While I love Dragonflight and it's my favorite expansion, it's announcement was very mild. It scaling down and not announcing a ton of features to be abandoned was good, but Towelie hyping all that up for what amounted to "talent trees and a UI revamp" really showed he didn't know shit. He was hyping things up, being vague and cold reading what he thought was going to happen, so after the fact it would seem like he had inside knowledge if it panned out. He did the same thing with Shadowlands, going ALL in on the fake map and fake leaks, and then tried to spin that he was right all along when a different expansion entirely but also called Shadowlands came out.

Bellular also has 17 videos in the past 30 days claiming a variation of knowing the expansion theme/the expansion has leaked bouncing from Voidstorm to Pirates to Dwarfs on a whime, so I wouldn't give him much attention either.

And honestly. What did he leak? Caves are important? That could mean anything from a zone partially underground to the full Teriz experience.

[Dracullus]

I dunno if we have enough of a precedent to gauge if it's unusual or not when even the two launches (of BC and Wrath Classic) were so different from each other. If Wrath realms are sticking around instead of being transitioned into Cata, we might see Cata pre-patch realms very soon.

Different how? Only difference was that Classic Era stayed, TBC not, but every tier last 3-4 months all from 2019 launch until today. Audience for this type of Classic are people who want to relive old expansions, would be pretty stupid to release Cata pre-patch right after ICC just released.

[Reive]

summary of the last "few" pages?

[Dracullus]

summary of the last "few" pages?

Pure chaos. It's reveal month dude, soon no one will be able to read everything.

In general last bit of actual news are Blizzcon ticket rewards, which helped to exclude few items from datamined list. And now it's pretty much shaped like something we usually see for Epic Edition:

1) Algarian Stormrider mount - most common bet is that it's a dwarf gryphon with new flying
2) Storm Rider Gold/Silver/Bronze achiev - probably for races on new mount
3) S.A.F.E. toy - probably hearthstone toy
4) Survey bot - connected to archeology revamp?
5) 2 pets

[Santandame]

Because the writers are dumb?
I mean Deathwing bursting up from Deepholm Caused the entire world to go tit's up. But Sargeras stabbing the world with a sword bigger than D-man didn't even cause a quake. The whole thing should have triggered a second cataclysm, not just a few fountains of azerite. Come to think of it, are people still using that stuff, or did that just stop after N'Zoth awakened and we had bigger problems?

Deathwing bursting forth from Deepholm castes the Cataclysm because he damaged the world pillar in the process, which is in Deepholm.

[Reive]

Pure chaos. It's reveal month dude, soon no one will be able to read everything.

In general last bit of actual news are Blizzcon ticket rewards, which helped to exclude few items from datamined list. And now it's pretty much shaped like something we usually see for Epic Edition:

1) Algarian Stormrider mount - most common bet is that it's a dwarf gryphon with new flying
2) Storm Rider Gold/Silver/Bronze achiev - probably for races on new mount
3) S.A.F.E. toy - probably hearthstone toy
4) Survey bot - connected to archeology revamp?
5) 2 pets

nothing new then lol

thanks

[Santandame]

And honestly. What did he leak? Caves are important? That could mean anything from a zone partially underground to the full Teriz experience.

I think it’s highly likely we get an underground zone centred around the world tree from those recent lore books. I think it’s highly unlikely we get a full underground expansion though.

[Darkarath]

WoW. This is the best WoW trailer that I have seen in a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjuN...orldofWarcraft

Irrelevant to the discussion, I know. Still, a truly amazing job.

[Marlamin]

3) S.A.F.E. toy - probably hearthstone toy
4) Survey bot - connected to archeology revamp?

These are battle pets

[Reive]

WoW. This is the best WoW trailer that I have seen in a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjuN...orldofWarcraft

Irrelevant to the discussion, I know. Still, a truly amazing job.

yeah, hurricane is great. miss these vibes from wow

[Hitei]

Different how? Only difference was that Classic Era stayed, TBC not, but every tier last 3-4 months all from 2019 launch until today. Audience for this type of Classic are people who want to relive old expansions, would be pretty stupid to release Cata pre-patch right after ICC just released.

BC wasn't announced until 2.5 months after Classic's final phase and then released 6 months after the end of Classic.
Wrath was announced a month before BC's last patch and then released 4 months after the end of BC.

So both the time frame for announcement and the time frame between end of previous content and next release have no consistency. Then you have to add into this that Wrath, unlike Classic and BC, does not end on a major tier release, it has a mini-patch. So now the timeline is even more confused.

Reliving old expansions is a relative process. There's a lot of timesink to relive in Classic(classic). There's not a massive ton of content to relive in 3.4.3; three small dungeons and ICC. If they are planning to keep Wrath realms around, it's not all that stupid to release Cata pre-patch, because the two aren't mutually exclusive. It's not like people are going to be exploring some whole new zone or something on Wrath servers. They're gonna do ICC progression on raid night and then go back to whatever they've been doing pre-3.4.3.

Adding Cata pre-patch means they can do their raid night and then go level a new character on Cata servers. They are complementary pieces of content, not competing ones.

[Dracullus]

These are battle pets

So there are 4 pets total? In this case for sure it's not complete list of Heroic/Epic rewards, I expect some toys and/or transmog beside mount/pet.

[Fahrad Wagner]

so.. towlu leaked some vid and tweet but no one seen it /copy it / and he is in big troubles with papa blizz. Give me a fakin break

No one has seen it? Damn it

[Marlamin]

So there are 4 pets total? In this case for sure it's not complete list of Heroic/Epic rewards, I expect some toys and/or transmog beside mount/pet.

There is 1 pet (Squally) under the same key as the other 11.0 stuff, other pets are encrypted separately and could be for a variety of other things in the future (but could also be attached to one of the editions). The web API achievement list was never "just" pre-order stuff.

[Santandame]

They're still like that

The vibes between the Lich King cinematic posted is vastly different to that of the Dragonflight cinematic.