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    I'm a moron; looking at the "Heroic Edition" screenshot, the font used at first glance appears to be similar to Semplicita Pro, but it's not the same. Blizzard's used that font since Shadowlands, and is present in all their promo materials.

    Real Semplicita at the bottom; easy to see by the leg on the R and the squared-off side on the U.

    It's always the fonts!

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  2. #27102
    Quote Originally Posted by Therougetitan View Post
    So far at least. Precedents are a guideline to look for not a hard restriction
    Why would they offer $15 of gametime with a $20 upsell that also includes 750 tender (that's 50% more than DF's), a pet and mount (standard CE/digital edition items), a transmog set (visible on the picture) and a character boost?

    The entire viability of the included game time is that to get it you're actually paying $40 extra, 20 for the Heroic and 20 for the Epic. There's no reason to heap that much stuff on an upgrade for $5 extra.

  3. #27103
    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    Transmog Set, Traders Tender, Mount, Level 70 Boost.

    Combine them and you get a more expensive 'Epic Edition' and a built in justification for the hike.
    And has absolutely nothing to do with my question. What good would a preorder Boat skin be?

  4. #27104
    Quote Originally Posted by AngerFork View Post
    The trick there is to make the whole thing look like a better deal. You could pay the base price, or get some goodies for $20 extra. But if you're paying the $20 extra, might as well pay $40 extra since you'll essentially get $15 of it back, so the second half of the goodies just look like they cost $5.

    It's in essence just a month of guaranteed sub for Blizz with more money coming in from all digital goods.
    Yes, but that is what I am pointing out.

    Putting the gametime in Heroic makes no sense from Blizzard's point of view, because then you just pay $5 for a whole bunch of stuff and have significantly less incentive to get the epic. That'd just be going from everyone giving you a flat $20 for a cool mount/pet/transmog and then maybe $5 for some extra stuff to everyone giving you $5 for the mount/pe/transmog and probably not any more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloriandus View Post
    I'm a moron; looking at the "Heroic Edition" screenshot, the font used at first glance appears to be similar to Semplicita Pro, but it's not the same. Blizzard's used that font since Shadowlands, and is present in all their promo materials.

    Real Semplicita at the bottom; easy to see by the leg on the R and the squared-off side on the U.

    It's always the fonts!

    Great catch on the U but do you have any marketing material with that U? I feel like I never seen it so sharply shaped like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Why would they offer $15 of gametime with a $20 upsell that also includes 750 tender (that's 50% more than DF's), a pet and mount (standard CE/digital edition items), a transmog set (visible on the picture) and a character boost?

    The entire viability of the included game time is that to get it you're actually paying $40 extra, 20 for the Heroic and 20 for the Epic. There's no reason to heap that much stuff on an upgrade for $5 extra.
    Tenders have already been dataminded https://www.wowhead.com/news/500-ten...nd-epic-334709

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    Quote Originally Posted by flan1337 View Post
    Great catch on the U but do you have any marketing material with that U?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloriandus View Post
    Holy smokes I think you cracked the fake - how could they not catch the U

  8. #27108
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Tbh I thought Koranos was a Dragonmaw orc or some Vrykul. Didn’t think Alexstraza was actually Alexstraza either. Thought it was just some normal dragon.

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    Makes me wonder, if this is legit then maybe Scaleface’s might be legit too.
    This seems like the Warcraft title was photoshopped because of how thick the font is for the bevel

    'Stormbreaker' text also looks to be 'too big' and too low under the wow logo. And not all titles are trademarked simply by the expansion's name alone.

    World of Warcraft: EXPCTITLEHERE is always a trademark they register

    'Battle for Azeroth' and 'Warlords of Draenor' can be trademarked by itself for obvious reasons but by how diverse 'Stormbreaker' is, I don't believe they would add a trademark alone with the logo.
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  9. #27109
    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    Carracks slightly predate the pirate age. They're more from the age of exploration. They could have used the word galleon if they really wanted to drive home the pirates, but they deliberately didn't.

    Also, the waveborn diplomat's regalia and solemn watchman's garb are both reminiscent of the age of exploration as well. Not pirates.
    ^Good to see someone getting it.

    That carracks could be a transmog outfit but i swear it's a boat, the more i look at that photo the more i see a boat.

  10. #27110
    Quote Originally Posted by Gloriandus View Post
    Damn dude, good job. Another fake debunked.

  11. #27111
    Quote Originally Posted by Akhinos View Post
    Damn dude, good job. Another fake debunked.
    It's sad to see so many people being like oh my god oh my god and seeming excited just for it to go down the toilet but I think it's better to know, right?

  12. #27112
    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Stormbreaker is too weak of the title.
    Every WoW title pointed at global theme. Burning Legion, Cataclysm, Battle for Azeroth, Dragon flight etc, each of them pointed at the whole spectrum of themes United by one title.

    Burning Legion best expansion ever. Hats down.

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    Carrack escort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    Well if storm breaker is real, I wonder who or what is the storm breaker.

    My money is on tyr
    The land is more than likely surrounded by harsh storms, hence why no one can visit it. (apart from seemingly Nightsquall)

    The storm breaker is likely the event that happens that helps us break through the storm to reach the landmass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Carrack Escort sounds too small for a expansion level feature to present during announcement.
    Escort is escort. Players will escort something from A to B. No way they are going to build something big around such a uninspiring concept. On paper it sounds like ten times worse idea than Warfronts or Island Expeditions. I think they learned their lesson already.
    The image is cut off after ''escort''. Why are we just assuming its an event or expansion feature (if the image is even real). It could easily be ''Carrack Escort Regalia'' or what have you and be a transmog appearance.

  15. #27115
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Remember, no pirates...

    I kind of believe the leak, though the logo doesn't really tell you what the expac is about just looking at it.
    The ''no pirates'' comment is still funny to me. There was little to no context behind the comment, it could have meant anything within the context of WoW, or whatever Ybarra was trying to get across. I'm pretty sure the the tweet he was responding to wasn't even regarding 11.0, it was just someone posting an image of the WoW map saying something like ''we want stories set on Azeroth, we don't want pirates.''

    Pirates as a concept is so broad and widespread that any sort of content that features bodies of water or islands in WoW are very likely to feature them in some form.

    -Classic
    -WoTLK
    -Cata
    -MoP
    -Legion
    -BfA
    -DF

    They've been present in all of those.

    The entire ''no pirates'' comment just gives off massive ''there is no war in Ba Sing Se'' vibes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    I could picture a pre-launch event of some kind, in which we use "Dragonriding" (whatever it's called at that point) to race through stormy weather and reach certain checkpoints. Seems like something Blizzard would do. But it'll either have to be fairly easy or skippable, since I'm sure some players wouldn't be able to do it. Imagine if you couldn't access the expansion because you didn't make it through the storm, haha.
    I think the expansion launch event will be us navigating this storm in a scenario. Similar to the SL, BfA and WoD intros. Only that you'll be able to skip after doing it for the first time rather than waiting for patches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syphin33 View Post
    Im telling you guys right now, it's boats. We're getting player boats, it'll be a true seafaring expansion.

    The early shop transmogs being very conquistador focused and the word "carrack escort", a carrack is a literal ship guys. It's not a transmog you wear but a actual boat skin, watch when the day comes.

    What you're seeing to the right of that picture is not someone wearing a transmog, that is the back of the ship itself.
    I was predicting this for a while up until my more recent Avaloren predictions. I'd love it for so many reasons, 1) it would just be awesome 2) the fact so many were so dismissive of the idea after the ''no pirates'' comment and BfA allegedly being the South Seas expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The expansion being sea-themed all along would be really, really funny and between Mike's comment and the 10.2 final raid reveal, would probably lead to a LOT of asshurt at Blizzcon.
    Yeah, if that's the case (which I hope so) then I'm looking forward to the debacle of comments in this thread at announcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trad skeleton View Post
    He did just say no pirates. Pirates might not be a big mainstay of a theme. Ship 'housing' that we use to travel to an archipelago of sorts would be dope, at least to me. One can dream.
    There's no chance in hell that we'd get a seafaring expansion and pirates didn't make an appearance in some form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    The storm breaker is likely the event that happens that helps us break through the storm to reach the landmass.
    This doesn't make sense in the use of the word. Breaker indicates either a person (the one that breaks the storm, Example: Jin'rokh the Breaker) or a thing (the thing that breaks the storms, Example: Fearbreaker). And event that breaks a storm would be just Break (example: Dragonbreak from Elder Scrolls).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    This doesn't make sense in the use of the word. Breaker indicates either a person (the one that breaks the storm, Example: Jin'rokh the Breaker) or a thing (the thing that breaks the storms, Example: Fearbreaker). And event that breaks a storm would be just Break (example: Dragonbreak from Elder Scrolls).
    We may have some special item or macguffin that breaks the storm for us. It doesn't need to be a character or person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    We may have some special item or macguffin that breaks the storm for us. It doesn't need to be a character or person.
    No Expansion was every named after a macguffin. It was always about a theme, place or villain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    No Expansion was every named after a macguffin. It was always about a theme, place or villain
    That doesn't mean that it can't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    That doesn't mean that it can't happen.
    sure, it could happen. But even so, imagine you go to a random WoW Player and say the next Expansion is: Dragonflight, Shadowlands, Legion, BfA. They will have instantly something they can imagine what it is. Stormbreaker is a nothing in Warcraft. Would it be Lightbreaker/Voidbreaker, sure i could see it. But there is nothing in game or lore that makes Stormbreaker exciting. At most a Quest name (that was used in DF for the finale of the Ohn'ahra quest chain) and the Title you get from Isle of Thunder.

    It could at most, if you really stretch it relate to the Maelstrom, but that is a STROM not a STORM. (R and O in different places)

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