The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I REALLY (REALLY!) hope they have a good explanation if 10.2 is indeed the last major patch of the expansion. i don't care about 10.2.5 and 10.2.7, those patches are actual content imo. they charged people 10 more dollars only to deliver the lowest amount of content they've ever made

I mean maybe it's not viewed as a big success behind the scenes, even when sub retention is higher than before, DF was practically on high discount for most of its cadence so far.

Im not a good numbers guy and such, but i guess sub retention being higher is not the only thing that might matter for them but i might be also talking out of my arse and maybe they just planned this expansion to only have 2 major patches from the beginning.

Im not that big of a DF fan, but i think that if they won't have any at least 1 boss raid or something and fyrakk will the be final boss, it will be quite disappointing to see.
Not only sarkareth being one of the most random end bosses before fyrakk makes the thing even worse in my opinion.

[Delever]

I don't know, diablo4 and hearthstone both have quite cool battlepasses so I wouldn't mind something like that for WoW, with the current trading post being the "free to play" version. Would also prolly be cheeper for me as I currently run two wow accounts 'cause of the weirdly small character limit ...

I am not exaggerating when I say you are the only person I ve seen since the launch of D4 that has actually called the D4 battlepass cool. It's one of the worst battlepasses I have ever seen.

[Reive]

1. Not the lowest amount of content

But also
Wildfires
Storms
Employee problems

they hired 200 more people to work on the game. what are they doing?

Also, it is the lowest amount of content they've ever made. they just cut content from major patches to spread it out in those mini patches.

I mean maybe it's not viewed as a big success behind the scenes, even when sub retention is higher than before, DF was practically on high discount for most of its cadence so far.

Im not a good numbers guy and such, but i guess sub retention being higher is not the only thing that might matter for them but i might be also talking out of my arse and maybe they just planned this expansion to only have 2 major patches from the beginning.

Im not that big of a DF fan, but i think that if they won't have any at least 1 boss raid or something and fyrakk will the be final boss, it will be quite disappointing to see.
Not only sarkareth being one of the most random end bosses before fyrakk makes the thing even worse in my opinion.

No way they only planned 2 major patches. they're trying to pull another wod, but this time they can't afford it. wow is not doing great and 1 year without content would be a death sentence.

[Triceron]

Fym lead absolutely nowhere? The Jailer nearly remade reality using it.

Could have literally done that with any other plot device given how everything was set up in Shadowlands.

I'll give them credit for bringing back the Forge of Souls, but 'Azerite' itself is not really as important. It's a convenience. The Forge being used to siphon the soul of Azeroth would be more than enough explanation and works just as well without Azerite being a component at all.

[justwatching]

I mean maybe it's not viewed as a big success behind the scenes, even when sub retention is higher than before, DF was practically on high discount for most of its cadence so far.

Im not a good numbers guy and such, but i guess sub retention being higher is not the only thing that might matter for them but i might be also talking out of my arse and maybe they just planned this expansion to only have 2 major patches from the beginning.

Im not that big of a DF fan, but i think that if they won't have any at least 1 boss raid or something and fyrakk will the be final boss, it will be quite disappointing to see.
Not only sarkareth being one of the most random end bosses before fyrakk makes the thing even worse in my opinion.

Retention is a very misleading stat and I doubt they use it to evaluate anything internally so it was probably just used for PR because they cant say anything else.

By all available data the DF raw playercount is not great and one of the only things that really causes big player count spikes are expansions so it makes complete sense why they want to move to 11.0 as quickly as possible(as theyve done with WoD and SL before).

This Blizzcon is absolutely crucial for them.

[Nymrohd]

I REALLY (REALLY!) hope they have a good explanation if 10.2 is indeed the last major patch of the expansion. i don't care about 10.2.5 and 10.2.7, those patches are not actual content imo. they charged people 10 more dollars only to deliver the lowest amount of content they've ever made

https://www.wowhead.com/news/permane...0-2-ptr-335456
Permanent Augment Rune added. It IS the final raid for sure. Which makes this the expansion with lowest number of raid bosses.

[Woggmer]

they hired 200 more people to work on the game. what are they doing?

Also, it is the lowest amount of content they've ever made. they just cut content from major patches to spread it out in those mini patches.

I don't think those 200 people they hired are meant to work on DF, but the next expansion over.

Especially since they acquired them midway through DF's development.

[Scyth]

The only reason I can think of for not having another major patch is they plan to release the next xpac a lot earlier than a year after announcing it. Nothing else makes sense tbh
We'll find it out in a few weeks I guess.

[PotHockets]

The only reason I can think of for not having another major patch is they plan to release the next xpac a lot earlier than a year after announcing it. Nothing else makes sense tbh
We'll find it out in a few weeks I guess.

I wouldn't go getting my hopes up on a faster release cadence. They've been pretending they can pull off a sub 9 month drought for over a decade now and still haven't managed it.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Retention is a very misleading stat and I doubt they use it to evaluate anything internally so it was probably just used for PR because they cant say anything else.

By all available data the DF raw playercount is not great and one of the only things that really causes big player count spikes are expansions so it makes complete sense why they want to move to 11.0 as quickly as possible(as theyve done with WoD and SL before).

This Blizzcon is absolutely crucial for them.

Yeah, i mean just looking at it very casually if everything would be going really great when it comes to the game player activity and statistics, something like 10.3 a major patch would happen without any "datamined" stuff leading to thinking that i won't.

Also i mentioned the constant discount which is great for players, but when it happens so often for other games it usually means that the sales don't go that well.

They might be releasing next expansion early or something, but besides that i would think that something behind the scenes ain't working like they thought it will.

[justwatching]

The only reason I can think of for not having another major patch is they plan to release the next xpac a lot earlier than a year after announcing it. Nothing else makes sense tbh
We'll find it out in a few weeks I guess.

I'm almost 100% certain it will release in August/September.

[Wangming]

it's their patch after all

Now imagine a full warlock patch. Or a shaman patch.
That IS a good question actually. What and where would happen for patches dedicated to one of the classes?

1. Not the lowest amount of content

But also
Wildfires
Storms
Employee problems

Not to bring them up again, but FFXIV had the best songs composed while the main composer and sound designer was in hospital. With cancer. During covid lockdown. And the team didn't even know about it.



Anyroad, good morning yall. Did I miss anything juicy?

[Woggmer]

Now imagine a full warlock patch. Or a shaman patch.
That IS a good question actually. What and where would happen for patches dedicated to one of the classes?

Wasn't that the case when they made every race (except Drac'thyr) playable with Warlocks? They added demon customizations and a whole questline for how these races "became" Warlocks

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Also looking at the new files

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=2...encrests-wrath

Ravencrest 2h sword will be a drop from the dungeon in 10.2, with 1h gold one for trading post.

[Santandame]

Now imagine a full warlock patch. Or a shaman patch.
That IS a good question actually. What and where would happen for patches dedicated to one of the classes?



Not to bring them up again, but FFXIV had the best songs composed while the main composer and sound designer was in hospital. With cancer. During covid lockdown. And the team didn't even know about it.



Anyroad, good morning yall. Did I miss anything juicy?

Shamans should have been 10.0.

It’s a heavy elemental themed expansion with much of the elemental content being in 10.0 with the Primalists, Vault of the Incarnates, Elemental Storms and around half of the launch dungeons being element themed.

[Nymrohd]

The only reason I can think of for not having another major patch is they plan to release the next xpac a lot earlier than a year after announcing it. Nothing else makes sense tbh
We'll find it out in a few weeks I guess.

I still think we will get some surprise instanced content before the end. Uldaz should be somewhere in this expac.

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Also looking at the new files

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=2...encrests-wrath

Ravencrest 2h sword will be a drop from the dungeon in 10.2, with 1h gold one for trading post.

Oh an HD Maladath?

[Merryck]

The only reason I can think of for not having another major patch is they plan to release the next xpac a lot earlier than a year after announcing it. Nothing else makes sense tbh
We'll find it out in a few weeks I guess.

Indeed. Maybe the next expansion is just Dragonflight Part 2. That could be neat.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Oh an HD Maladath?

Yeah. https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=1...-razor?bonus=0

So the purple one is 2h and gold one is 1h.

[Santandame]

I still think we will get some surprise instanced content before the end. Uldaz should be somewhere in this expac.

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Oh an HD Maladath?

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Uldaz used for Avaloren/Khaz Algar.

I know Tyrhold is Uldorus but I feel like we saw very little of it outside of the Halls of Infusion and the exterior. If we go off naming conventions, we can assume Uldorus is the equivalent of Antorus. Just feels like for such a potentially massively important place, we got the bare minimum. I still think 10.3 should have been a Titan Keeper patch with us exploring Uldorus proper as a raid/new world zone content with Odyn invading the Dragon Isles with his Valarjar.

[Nymrohd]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Uldaz used for Avaloren/Khaz Algar.

I know Tyrhold is Uldorus but I feel like we saw very little of it outside of the Halls of Infusion and the exterior. If we go off naming conventions, we can assume Uldorus is the equivalent of Antorus. Just feels like for such a potentially massively important place, we got the bare minimum. I still think 10.3 should have been a Titan Keeper patch with us exploring Uldorus proper as a raid/new world zone content with Odyn invading the Dragon Isles with his Valarjar.

I think we might see some non-instanced content we do not expect in 10.2.5. Cause ending with the ED raid just doesn't make much sense.