The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[mogturmen]

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[ImTheMizAwesome]

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Dwarf looking ogres?

[Nymrohd]

I mean this is a well done mock up

[Wangming]

Wasn't that the case when they made every race (except Drac'thyr) playable with Warlocks? They added demon customizations and a whole questline for how these races "became" Warlocks

True. Or when we had the green flame questline.
But it isn't a whole patch in the sense that this is a druid patch. Although if you want to be extra pedantic you could say Legion was a warlock expansion. It was about demons. Lots of demons. Hell WoD was about how to beat up the Iron Horde enough for them to accept any help and let Gul'Dan corrupt the orcs again.

[Merryck]

Dwarf looking ogres?

look at the dwarves' hands. that's what happens when you don't respect the Titans

[Wangming]

I mean this is a well done mock up

Definitely. But I'm fairly certain this is just a well-designed fake.

[KyleEverett]

The only thing that feels super off is the image of the 'Goliath' but beyond that it's a pretty remarkable one. Given Ybarra tweeted he was reviewing the finalized Blizzcon assets it's possible this went out to some third party person today.

[ercarp]

https://i.imgur.com/VromJYz.jpeg

The thing is, now that we have all these different AI art generators, anyone can create new and original art assets within just a few seconds and use them in their "leaks".

Still, it's the highest effort "leak" I've seen so far.

[Santandame]

Dwarf looking ogres?

If this is real…. Yes please!!!! I’d main this in an instant.

[Woggmer]

Shamans should have been 10.0.

It’s a heavy elemental themed expansion with much of the elemental content being in 10.0 with the Primalists, Vault of the Incarnates, Elemental Storms and around half of the launch dungeons being element themed.

Yeah, and after 10.0.5 (when the Forbidden Reach opened up) it stopped being about the Elementals and Primalists and became more about the Dragons and the Drac'thyr.

Though who knows.. I heard they might have something planned for the Primalists in 10.2.5 but I'm not holding my breath on that being the reason how everyone becomes a shaman.

[Wangming]

The only thing that feels super off is the image of the 'Goliath' but beyond that it's a pretty remarkable one. Given Ybarra tweeted he was reviewing the finalized Blizzcon assets it's possible this went out to some third party person today.

The only thing that feels super off is that the screen is tilted, but the images and text ON the screen are not.

[Dracullus]

I REALLY (REALLY!) hope they have a good explanation if 10.2 is indeed the last major patch of the expansion. i don't care about 10.2.5 and 10.2.7, those patches are not actual content imo. they charged people 10 more dollars only to deliver the lowest amount of content they've ever made

Well, hard to explain something you made up and stubbornly repeat. You don't decide what is content and what is not.

Raids are no longer most important thing to do in WoW, they are one of rides in theme park. So devs decided it's better to spend resources on 2nd big zone than 4th raid since they can rehash raids for 4th season anyway. Like it or not, it's change of design, not providing less content.

For example, if DF was structured exactly like Legion, 10.1 would be new quests on Dragon Isles, 10.1.5 second raid, 10.2 Forbidden Reach, 10.2.5 3rd raid, 10.3 Zaralek or Dream, 10.3.5 4th raid.

It's like looking at Dragon Isles and saying "oh, it has 4 zones, it must be smallest continent ever made", while it's exactly opposite.

If this is real…. Yes please!!!! I’d main this in an instant.

Thought you don't want desert zone in Avaloren xD.

[Kiria]

@Marlamin I have absolutely zero expectations

The stars changes could be removing Stars from Glyph and adding it to their standard transformations?

[Wangming]

The thing is, now that we have all these different AI art generators, anyone can create new and original art assets within just a few seconds and use them in their "leaks".

Still, it's the highest effort "leak" I've seen so far.

I like how it included stuff that sounds new. Like The Everward or even Agg'Orand. Nothing like this was discussed. Way too many leaks read like a borderline Christmas list.

[ercarp]

The only thing that feels super off is that the screen is tilted, but the images and text ON the screen are not.

Something about the perspective looks off to me as well. The laptop and phone screens look like they were superimposed on top of a different image, which is weird because it would be very easy to put these images up on your laptop and phone and take a photo of them without having to do any editing in that regard.

[Merryck]

The "stormrider" has textbook ai generated fingers ... It actually looks like they cropped an in-game model dwarfs head onto an ai generated image

[ercarp]

I like how it included stuff that sounds new. Like The Everward or even Agg'Orand. Nothing like this was discussed. Way too many leaks read like a borderline Christmas list.

Yeah, that's a nice touch. Most fake leaks have things that we can immediately recognize as fan favorites (high elves, naga, South Seas, ogres, dark rangers, necromancers, etc.) but the real leaks have usually included concepts that we had no previous knowledge of (Bastion and Dracthyr come to mind).

But even this one seems to be betting on Avaloren and Khaz Algar, which are the current frontrunners for the next setting.

[Woggmer]

Well, hard to explain something you made up and stubbornly repeat. You don't decide what is content and what is not.

Raids are no longer most important thing to do in WoW, they are one of rides in theme park. So devs decided it's better to spend resources on 2nd big zone than 4th raid since they can rehash raids for 4th season anyway. Like it or not, it's change of design, not providing less content.

For example, if DF was structured exactly like Legion, 10.1 would be new quests on Dragon Isles, 10.1.5 second raid, 10.2 Forbidden Reach, 10.2.5 3rd raid, 10.3 Zaralek or Dream, 10.3.5 4th raid.

It's like looking at Dragon Isles and saying "oh, it has 4 zones, it must be smallest continent ever made", while it's exactly opposite.

To add to this,

I believe Blizz has a different outlook on patches than the player base does.

We view each patch individually, which means we treat the .5 and .7 stuff as separate things.

Blizz could be looking at the .5's and .7's as part of the greater whole to a patch cycle, bundling them together as part of the patch itself.

The playerbase views it as: 10.0, 10.0.5, 10.0.7, 10.1, 10.1.5, 10.1.7, and so on.
Blizzard views it as: 10.0 (with .5 and .7), 10.1 (with .5 and .7), 10.2 (with .5 and .7)

Though, that's just my honest guess.

[Dismayxz]

Dwarf looking ogres?

I mean, I agree that the angle can look off, but if I had to just take this at first-look value, I'd say it's a good mockup or we're just looking for things to point it out as such, only to be going back like with the Scaleface stuff and go "Oh, well.. fuck."

I am not expecting us to get Ogres, never have been. But a dwarvish take on the D&D Esque Goliaths, with some visual resemblance to ogres, I'm perfectly fine with. It looks close enough to a showcase, so under any circumstance, kudos to the guy for putting in the effort, rather than just doing some bland ass AI Art stuff.

Also, that Goliath dude looks to be using the Mogu base skeleton, judging from his pose?

[Sentynel]

It screams fake guys. The text makes it obvious. Is it Agg'orand or Agg'ora? Also Blizzard wouldn't use "defence" for defense, that's for the UK bros. The background for the dwarf is also from Gorgrond.