The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

I don't think there are any spoilers. I mean it's right there on the encounter journal.

I am unable to take the Dungeon Journal seriously after noticing that the Lightning effects on Raszageth makes it look like she has a smug emoji face in her still photo.

[Catastrophy349]

I don't think there are any spoilers. I mean it's right there on the encounter journal.

Huh? I posted three images from the fight. Those images aren’t in the adventure journal. Lol.

[Raetary]

Huh? I posted three images from the fight. Those images aren’t in the adventure journal. Lol.

Those images don't show anything that wasn't made clear by the campaign or the dungeon journal.

[Sondrelk]

Those images don't show anything that wasn't made clear by the campaign or the dungeon journal.

If you go into the raid blind then actually seeing the raid might be considered spoilers, in the same way seeing pictures of the Dragon Isles might have been considered spoilers despite previews being available.

[Catastrophy349]

Those images don't show anything that wasn't made clear by the campaign or the dungeon journal.

Either I woke up this morning with a severe case of brain damage or everyone else is misunderstanding my post. I posted a twitter post of three images of the raid encounter (possible SPOILERS). These images are NOT found in game as they are from the raid encounter. I do not understand how these images "don't show anything that wasn't made clear by the campaign or the dungeon journal". These images are LITERALLY NOT IN GAME?

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Considering we have not seen the last boss encounter (as it is encrypted and wasn't tested on beta), yes, these images would be considered "spoilers". WoW, this is not that complicated.

[Foolicious]

Y’all seen these pictures? (SPOILERS)

https://twitter.com/mrgmyt/status/16...Cx6grdkVNKyTMA

So they are in very traditional titan prisons. There goes my hope that Iridikron ate the other two.
Seems like the only question remains if raszageth survives or the remaining incarnates have a number disadvantage.

Also what do you think are the chances of a cinematic? Dragonflight has so many cutscenes i wouldn't be suprised if we get one for the first raid.

[Catastrophy349]

So they are in very traditional titan prisons. There goes my hope that Iridikron ate the other two.
Seems like the only question remains if raszageth survives or the remaining incarnates have a number disadvantage.

Also what do you think are the chances of a cinematic? Dragonflight has so many cutscenes i wouldn't be suprised if we get one for the first raid.

I am very interested in this, too. We typically don't get a cinematic for the first raid tier. In Shadowlands, we got the Remornia sword cinematic in Revendreth, but that was it. However, because the raid story is pivotal toward the future of the expansion and Dragonflight has already made a lot of changes in terms of story-telling, it's possible and I REALLY hope we get a cinematic or "at-the-bare-minimum" some juicy dialogue/post-quest series.

Additionally, we should get the Mother Oathstone questline on Tuesday to lead up to the raid story.

[Makabreska]

Either I woke up this morning with a severe case of brain damage or everyone else is misunderstanding my post. I posted a twitter post of three images of the raid encounter (possible SPOILERS). These images are NOT found in game as they are from the raid encounter. I do not understand how these images "don't show anything that wasn't made clear by the campaign or the dungeon journal". These images are LITERALLY NOT IN GAME?

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Considering we have not seen the last boss encounter (as it is encrypted and wasn't tested on beta), yes, these images would be considered "spoilers". WoW, this is not that complicated.

Still, nothing new. We saw Rasz boss room in first week of Alpha and commented on it's Titan tech, when someone posted a raid interior tour. Place looks fairly similar to Lei Shen arena.

[Catastrophy349]

Still, nothing new. We saw Rasz boss room in first week of Alpha and commented on it's Titan tech, when someone posted a raid interior tour. Place looks fairly similar to Lei Shen arena.

It’s honestly not even worth the conversation. What’s more important is what do we think will happen this week in terms of the quest line, raid story, etc.?

[Cheezits]

Well, technically Blizz spoiled the appearance of the incarnates today, they can be seen in their stasis orbs.

https://twitter.com/mrgmyt/status/16...Si8M5tethHUs9g

[Nymrohd]

On it not being a spoiler, I did not mean to be aggressive or anything, it's just that the journal very much tells us that Razsageth is in the process of releasing the other Incarnates and is assaulting their prisons during the fight. We knew the area so we knew they'd be in each platform. Heck by the way the encounter journal describes the fight, she very much succeeds; by the last phase the defenses are completely down and the energy of the Vault has been drained.

It's still a cool screenshot. Even Beakface Tinyhands can look cool with the right setup I guess.

[Makorus]

I mean, this has been the description since Beta.

[Catastrophy349]

I mean, this has been the description since Beta.

Yeah, we don't need to beat the dead horse anymore, I get it. However, me posting pictures versus reading something in a journal is not the same thing. By your logic, the datamined "spoilers" of the conversation between Malfurion, Ysera, and Tyrande is the same as the cutscene we get in-game (which is COMPLETELY different) because one is a script and the other is an actual cinematic with voice lines and context.

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On it not being a spoiler, I did not mean to be aggressive or anything, it's just that the journal very much tells us that Razsageth is in the process of releasing the other Incarnates and is assaulting their prisons during the fight. We knew the area so we knew they'd be in each platform. Heck by the way the encounter journal describes the fight, she very much succeeds; by the last phase the defenses are completely down and the energy of the Vault has been drained.

It's still a cool screenshot. Even Beakface Tinyhands can look cool with the right setup I guess.

Exactly. From reading the dungeon journal, it is definitely inferred, implied, whatever you want to say, that she is successful in releasing them (since their prisons are drained). However, what actually happens is unknown. Do they join the fight? Do they just escape? Will there be a cutscene? Will they escape and set up a future plot? Etc.

[Nymrohd]

Btw I finally hit Renown 19 and did the Ysera quests. I won't say much but yet again we help the villain with their plan while being complete idiots. I am tired of this game robbing me of all agency and using my character to advance the plot while making them a clown.

[Catastrophy349]

Btw I finally hit Renown 19 and did the Ysera quests. I won't say much but yet again we help the villain with their plan while being complete idiots. I am tired of this game robbing me of all agency and using my character to advance the plot while making them a clown.

Yeah, I haven't seen it, yet. Only Renown questlines I've done are; Dragonscale Expedition Part 1 and Valdrakken Accord Part 1.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w0vNYdNAZI A good watch to HYPE us up and speculate on the future!

[Cheezits]

Btw I finally hit Renown 19 and did the Ysera quests. I won't say much but yet again we help the villain with their plan while being complete idiots. I am tired of this game robbing me of all agency and using my character to advance the plot while making them a clown.

The villain in question is hardly suspicious until the very end. Why would a player character not help them without future foresight?

[Nymrohd]

The villain in question is hardly suspicious until the very end. Why would a player character not help them without future foresight?

Really? I kind of knew he was the villain by the second set of quests. A blue dragonspawn suddenly shows up to have a visit at the same time that we find a dryad and ancient killed by frost magic? And then he is super interested in accessing the dream and convinces the guardian to let him see the gate when we know that was the purpose of the Primalist attack earlier?

[Aerisot]

My one complaint here is I dearly hope Blizz doesn't try to shove the Hour of Twilight down our throats a third time. We stopped that with Deathwing, then stopped it again with N'Zoth. Come up with new material for the Void.

I mean, they have been building towards the apocalypse for 10+ years now, N'zoth and by extension Deathwing, both thought they were going to be the ones that ushered it in, but they were wrong, it will be Murozond, or maybe a lack there of.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

Why isn't there a primalist proto-dragon for the green flight?

[Revamp Man]

Why isn't there a primalist proto-dragon for the green flight?

What element would that be?