The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Murlocos]

Who is the scaly who accused Turalyon of being a zealot btw?

Azurathel. The full quote is "I have been speaking with this Turalyon. He seems a capable leader and soldier, but he is a zealot. And one must be cautious of zealots."

[Alanar]

Yay for more Emerald Dream!
https://www.wowhead.com/news/green-d...e-story-331934

Wowhead has linked this article with every color variation couple of times now. Blue for blue dragonflight story, green for emerald etc. They will do another post soon with the infinite one or they already did.

[Luck4]

I think Turalyon could be evil. Though it would have to be a complete brainwash, not one where he genuinely believes it.
If the story worked in such a way that lightforged could function similarly to sleeping agents then a believable conflict against Turalyon could happen.

I'm going back to the Alliance in 10.1, and as an Alliance fanboy I'm okay sacrificing him (Turalyon) for a World Revamp, let the Blue Lighforged Garrosh be unleashed, hopefully Scarlet Crusade, Yrel, the Shadow Council, and what remains of the Scourge will make a comeback, and ofc Alleria and the Void Elves.

[Varodoc]

Azurathel. The full quote is "I have been speaking with this Turalyon. He seems a capable leader and soldier, but he is a zealot. And one must be cautious of zealots."

I see.

Well, someone should remind this scaly animal that Turalyon could have just shut the gates and told the scalies to fuck off and seek refuge elsewhere.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I think Turalyon could be evil. Though it would have to be a complete brainwash, not one where he genuinely believes it.
If the story worked in such a way that lightforged could function similarly to sleeping agents then a believable conflict against Turalyon could happen.

No thanks I don't want a Blue Horde or the same stuff that happened to the Horde but switching it up. Alleria is more dangerous then Turalyon.

Next expansion we DEFO getting world revamp/tinkers/void vs light/etc.

Minus the world revamp, I can buy it. Not that I don't want it, I just feel....more skeptical then I was 3 years ago.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I cringe whenever I hear of "Evil Alliance" or "Evil Light Crusade" as story ideas. I'd rather take other nonsense or boring rehashes pulled out of thin air like the Shadowlands or Dragonflight.

[Varodoc]

I cringe whenever I hear of "Evil Alliance" or "Evil Light Crusade" as story ideas. I'd rather take other nonsense or boring rehashes pulled out of thin air like the Shadowlands or Dragonflight.

Right? I cringe too! The problem is that the more radical Horde players believe that turning Stormwind into a raid will somehow resurrect Garrosh lmfao.

In reality it does nothing but rehash MoP and BfA, but with a blue/yellow filter for the final raid. Wooooooooooooow, so original!!

[Sondrelk]

Right? I cringe too! The problem is that the more radical Horde players believe that turning Stormwind into a raid will somehow resurrect Garrosh lmfao.

In reality it does nothing but rehash MoP and BfA, but with a blue/yellow filter for the final raid. Wooooooooooooow, so original!!

If only we could have a Stormwind raid because it's a cool idea with loads of possibilities that would make for a kickass raid.

[Nymrohd]

If only we could have a Stormwind raid because it's a cool idea with loads of possibilities that would make for a kickass raid.

That's how I'd have finished BfA for sure. Horde raids Stormwind, make it work like Battle for Dazar'alor. Alliance version with 4 bosses, then Horde version with 4 bosses than a 3 boss wing about N'zoth invading right behind the Horde. Ends at Harbor, either N'zoth himself or a massive Kraken like Ozumat or possibly an Old-God controlled Ancient like Nespirah having destroyed the Horde invasion fleet and both sides have to fight it together, have Sylvanas run there. We make a truce until the fight with N'zoth is done. As world content add small N'zoth invasions at graphically revamped zones. In 8.2.5 instead of the Orgrimmar siege scenario, have the Southern Barrens warfront (Tauren vs Dwarves).

[Sondrelk]

That's how I'd have finished BfA for sure. Horde raids Stormwind, make it work like Battle for Dazar'alor. Alliance version with 4 bosses, then Horde version with 4 bosses than a 3 boss wing about N'zoth invading right behind the Horde. Ends at Harbor, either N'zoth himself or a massive Kraken like Ozumat or possibly an Old-God controlled Ancient like Nespirah having destroyed the Horde invasion fleet and both sides have to fight it together, have Sylvanas run there. We make a truce until the fight with N'zoth is done. As world content add small N'zoth invasions at graphically revamped zones. In 8.2.5 instead of the Orgrimmar siege scenario, have the Southern Barrens warfront (Tauren vs Dwarves).

Personally i would have gone for us being tricked by Sylvanas into leaving Stormwind undefended. She runs in, attacks, and fortifies it. We then have to fight through the wreckage with the Alliance and Horde working together to stop her.

You have the giant graveyard for risen zombies. Potentially even Arthas if the writers want to confirm that bit of speculation, or really have any famous human boss. You have the Stormwind Vault, which should contain all kinds of fun enemies to fight. And the Stormwind Cathedral if you want a light themed enemy. You could even have a giant canal crocolisk fight if you really want to!

[Nymrohd]

Personally i would have gone for us being tricked by Sylvanas into leaving Stormwind undefended. She runs in, attacks, and fortifies it. We then have to fight through the wreckage with the Alliance and Horde working together to stop her.

Yeah I don't like another "Alliance becomes stupid so that Sylvanas 4D Chess moves work on them"

[Super Dickmann]

A fucking Bloodfyre is in it after I brought up the Bloodfyre for the Void-style Shadowmoon being in the MU Horde on a lark. Regardless of anything else in the quest I am unspeakably erect and will never recover.

[Cheezits]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/cosmeti...t-items-332030

Totem cape AND a totem weapon just for Tauren, both tribes

And fun note about the Orc heritage quest: your Orc canonically joins a clan of your choice!

[Sondrelk]

Yeah I don't like another "Alliance becomes stupid so that Sylvanas 4D Chess moves work on them"

Admittedly it would have only made sense if BfA Sylvanas was actually competent, but hey.
Point is that I think I would prefer a really strong continuous raiding experience from a Stormwind raid, rather than Dazar'alor. At least from how I understood the Horde experience to be, the Alliance version flowed decently well I thought.

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A fucking Bloodfyre is in it after I brought up the Bloodfyre for the Void-style Shadowmoon being in the MU Horde on a lark. Regardless of anything else in the quest I am unspeakably erect and will never recover.

Living up to you name i hear...

[Varodoc]

Lol at the idea that the Horde could launch an attack on Stormwind itself during the Fourth War when the whole idea of "Divine and Conquer" strategy at the basis of Burning of Teldrassil was because Stormwind itself could never hope to be taken through military means.

[Skytotem]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/cosmeti...t-items-332030

Totem cape AND a totem weapon just for Tauren, both tribes

And fun note about the Orc heritage quest: your Orc canonically joins a clan of your choice!

Best part of the orc heritage quest is Jorin reappearing and planning to reunite his clan's Outland and Azeroth groups

[Nymrohd]

New Ebyssian is creepy.

[Nathanyel]

And then rage about it later when their vision doesn't happen or get mad at Blizzard. Its happened before.

Yep, that's what I mean. Speculating is fun, even coming up with your own headcanon, "how I would do it", but don't actually read too much into a zone teaser.

[Foolicious]

New Ebyssian is creepy.

Saw the datamined model and thought it was an undead tauren or necromancer. Love the new eyes, but the white face paint is a bit weird without his helmet.

[Varodoc]

Blizzard needs to redo the old Heritage Armour quests, it's criminal how Core races get full questlines through multiple zones and even cutscenes (for Humans and Orcs), while Void elves only get one quick quest from Alleria.

The funny thing is that an actual questline for the Ren'dorei Heritage Armour would present the opportunity to finally revisit Quel'Thalas, even if only in Scenario form, and could tell a story of divergences and reunification.