The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Woggmer]

Had an awful dream last night that Blizzcon came and next WoW expansion was a continent to the south of Pandaria and was Pandaren themed with none of the interesting themes from Pandaria and would just be an expansion about farming and helping those particular Pandaren with their every day lives and no real overarching story.

Sounds like something you'd see in a Nintendo Direct stream.

[Chickat]

I can't imagine getting hyped for a Hearthstone expansion ... The Titans was interesting, but they blundered their designs ... You'd need to add a new class like Monk to get me excited, but this one just seems like a filler expansion.

Hearthstone is a lot of fun but entirely too expensive to keep up. I played a lot the first few years but i couldn't keep throwing money at it.

I played a lot till a few months after Old Gods released, but it was getting too expensive to keep up so i suppose i only played a lot for 1.5-2 years. Also, I cant believe Hearthstone has been out for almost 10 years.

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Shame about the Stormfall leak, The sad thing is now future fake leaks will feature this Hearthstone expansion confirmation to it to try and seem legit muddying the waters a lil, also @Chickat love the new Ava!

Thanks, I made it with that ai Prompt service from Bing. Thought it was cute.

[locketto]

https://twitter.com/WorldofMoudi/sta...31882666791229


is it anything or nothing?

[Shamolo]

Looks like they noticed and took down the Hearthstone expansion page

[Azalar]

is it anything or nothing?

It's a reversed map. That's likely the Maelstrom.

[Nymrohd]

Well, DF theme was not poorly interpreted by Blizzard IMO. Definitively they could have handle it better, but it is not too bad, not too good. But now they have Metzen back, hopefully that counts for something.

How are the different dragonborn created?
What was their hierarchy while the Dragons were missing?
Why did they abandon all the outlying facilities and only maintain Thaldrazsus?
Have the heirs and consorts of the different flights that passed ever been replaced?
Can you name me one Dragon in a position of power in the red flight other than Alex (no, a major domo doesn't count, she is Alex's butler)?
Do the dragons prefer to live in their visage forms which is why most of the buildings in Valdraken are build for creatures of at most Dragonkin size? Where did the Djaradin come from?
What where they before they made a pact with Earth and Fire?
What does Djaradin architecture look like; do they have permanent buildings or do they only have military tents?

I can come up with more.

[Wangming]

It's a reversed map. That's likely the Maelstrom.

Definitely not Avaloren that is for sure.

[Darkarath]

https://twitter.com/WorldofMoudi/sta...31882666791229


is it anything or nothing?

That's the Maelstrom, right?

How are the different dragonborn created? MAGIC? I agree that it is sad that this has not been answered
What was their hierarchy while the Dragons were missing? I do not see this as a problem. They probably just tried to get along
Why did they abandon all the outlying facilities and only maintain Thaldrazsus? Maybe they were not that many. Not that relevant IMO
Have the heirs and consorts of the different flights that passed ever been replaced? They do not talk about it so probably no
Can you name me one Dragon in a position of power in the red flight other than Alex (no, a major domo doesn't count, she is Alex's butler)? AGREED. The role of the Red Dragonflight in DF has been inexistent. I thought that 10.3 would solve that but...
Do the dragons prefer to live in their visage forms which is why most of the buildings in Valdraken are build for creatures of at most Dragonkin size? Where did the Djaradin come from? I think that we will have more Djararin in the future so that is not a problem
What where they before they made a pact with Earth and Fire? See above
What does Djaradin architecture look like; do they have permanent buildings or do they only have military tents? See above

I can come up with more.

Anyway, I think that you are expecting too much from Blizzard. This is WoW, not FFXIV. Those questions do not even cross Blizzard's lore team brains.

[Kiria]

Hearthstone is a lot of fun but entirely too expensive to keep up. I played a lot the first few years but i couldn't keep throwing money at it.

I played a lot till a few months after Old Gods released, but it was getting too expensive to keep up so i suppose i only played a lot for 1.5-2 years. Also, I cant believe Hearthstone has been out for almost 10 years.

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Thanks, I made it with that ai Prompt service from Bing. Thought it was cute.

oooooh Thanks might give that a try <3

Soon the real speculations begin, we just need to keep our eyes peeled for the real leaks.

[Kalontas]

https://twitter.com/WorldofMoudi/sta...31882666791229


is it anything or nothing?

I flipped your screenshot. It is indeed the Maelstrom.



Somebody might ask, why is this flipped? Because it looks like you zoomed all the way in and used /read. The way the object is textured is to make it look right when viewed normally, i.e. from outside your character. So when you zoom in, it looks flipped, because you're seeing the back of it.

[locketto]

It's a reversed map. That's likely the Maelstrom.

I've reversed it, and in that case what is it ???



Dragon Island down there?

[Yus atath]

Real leaks happen within a few days before Blizzcon.

[Hitei]

I've reversed it, and in that case what is it ???

Dragon Island down there?

Upside down, look at Teldrassil bottom left.

[Nymrohd]

Anyway, I think that you are expecting too much from Blizzard. This is WoW, not FFXIV. Those questions do not even cross Blizzard's lore team brains.

I can answer all the similar questions for the Maruuk centaur. For most any culture in Zandalar or Kul Tiras, for anything in Legion and for most cultures in Shadowlands. I can answer it in detail for anything in Draenor. I am not expecting anything more than what we usually get.
I have some hopes for the book to have these details but then again, it's not in game.

[Kiria]

I've reversed it, and in that case what is it ???



Dragon Island down there?

It looks like the reverse of the map is upside down.

[Nymrohd]

Real leaks happen within a few days before Blizzcon.

Usually unless there is a more significant breach, we will at least get a solid leak the few days before Blizzcon as they are setting up the convention center and promotional material starts getting delivered.

[Wangming]

I can answer all the similar questions for the Maruuk centaur. For most any culture in Zandalar or Kul Tiras, for anything in Legion and for most cultures in Shadowlands. I can answer it in detail for anything in Draenor. I am not expecting anything more than what we usually get.
I have some hopes for the book to have these details but then again, it's not in game.

Shit we know like the entire economy of the Pandaren. We have seen breweries and silk farms. If they wanted to answer those questions for the dragons, they would have.

[Santandame]

I just want the next landmass to feel like a real, breathing, lived in world. Something on the scope of Pandaria and Kul Tiras for world building. The Dragon Isles was poor for that. I know it was this unexplored wilderness so to speak but I’d have liked to have seen more dragon settlements with them just taking part in slice of life styled events. The same with the centaur and tuskarr. It just felt so soulless.

[Darkarath]

I can answer all the similar questions for the Maruuk centaur. For most any culture in Zandalar or Kul Tiras, for anything in Legion and for most cultures in Shadowlands. I can answer it in detail for anything in Draenor. I am not expecting anything more than what we usually get.
I have some hopes for the book to have these details but then again, it's not in game.

Djaradin are enemies. When we first saw the Kvaldir we did not know shit about them. Devourers of SL? We do not know much. I would say that we do not know shit about the Brokers even. Djaradin will be developed in due time, no doubt.

Regarding Dragons, they were nearly annihilated and they do not have all the needs of a regular society. I think that they should have been more developed in DF, especially regarding the Drakonids. But again, there will be more lore of Dragons incoming.

I just want the next landmass to feel like a real, breathing, lived in world. Something on the scope of Pandaria and Kul Tiras for world building. The Dragon Isles was poor for that. I know it was this unexplored wilderness so to speak but I’d have liked to have seen more dragon settlements with them just taking part in slice of life styled events. The same with the centaur and tuskarr. It just felt so soulless.

DF did a good job with Centaurs and Tuskkars IMO. It is just that (at least for me) they are not very interesting races. There is not much else that you can do with them. Zaralek was clearly a missed opportunity IMO to develop more either Drogbars or Kobolds. Instead we got a race that brings nothing to the table and that it is unlikely that we will see ever again.

They should stop adding races for the sake of it. Keep developing the ones that we already have. Especially if the theme fits them. I am good with subraces, like the dwarves that it seems that we will get when we visit Khaz Algar. Although I am not very much in favor of making them playable.

[Nymrohd]

Djaradin are enemies. When we first saw the Kvaldir we did not know shit about them. Devourers of SL? We do not know much. I would say that we do not know shit about the Brokers even. Djaradin will be developed in due time, no doubt.

Regarding Dragons, they were nearly annihilated and they do not have all the needs of a regular society. I think that they should have been more developed in DF, especially regarding the Drakonids. But again, there will be more lore of Dragons incoming.

Blizzard did not hit their stride with world building in detail until MoP then WoD till BfA they did excellent jobs. When the Kvaldir did reappear we learned everything about them. The Devourers are probably meant to be mysterious. We never actually get to visit where they come from though so it makes sense we can only find so little about them given they don't communicate (and probably even the natives of SL don't know much about them). We know a ton about the Brokers, we know many different cartels, that they have a hierarchy and that each has different specialties, we know their architecture and technology and even engaged in their intrigue in multiple occasions.

They certainly do a worse job with antagonists though, I will give you that. We still know far too little about the different races of the Legion.