The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

It's most definitely upside down, look at the outlines of the EK and Kalimdor and see Teldrasil/Bloodmyst Isle is on the bottom instead of the top of Kalimdor

Yeah, I see it now. Got mixed up by the labeling. Lol!

[Hitei]

I keep hearing this but I recall at the time the leaker (assuming it's the same one) posted about the new class, Order Halls, artifact weapons and landmarks. The details were too specific for it to be a random guess.

Two different people.

[huth]

It's most definitely upside down, look at the outlines of the EK and Kalimdor and see Teldrasil/Bloodmyst Isle is on the bottom instead of the top of Kalimdor

Azshara too. And the island titled PANDA is obviously Northrend. Northrend kinda looks like a crossaint, Pandaria is more round.

Seems that map got mirrored somewhere along the way.

[Nymrohd]

Azshara too. And the island titled PANDA is obviously Northrend. Northrend kinda looks like a crossaint, Pandaria is more round.

Seems that map got mirrored somewhere along the way.

I mean he is looking at the map from behind and he thought he could just mirror it on one axis and get it straight. he either needs to flip it or mirror it on both.

[huth]

I mean he is looking at the map from behind and he thought he could just mirror it on one axis and get it straight. he either needs to flip it or mirror it on both.

No, he was right. He just mirrored the wrong axis. Up and down don't change when you look at something in a mirror or from behind. Left and right do.

[Magistrate]

Azshara too. And the island titled PANDA is obviously Northrend. Northrend kinda looks like a crossaint, Pandaria is more round.

Seems that map got mirrored somewhere along the way.

If this is supposed to be an analog for the /read emote map model, that model shows the continents all inverted on the backside for some reason from what I remember, so I would guess it's because of that.

[Murlocos]

The issue for me with Centaur et al was the scale - the island has ostensibly been hidden away for 10,000 years and the Centaurs have... like three very small encampments? I exaggerate, but it doesn't feel like the Plains have been lived in for that immense period, at all.

Hopefully they do something a bit better this time around, particularly if it is Avaloren which has seemingly been cut off from the world for far longer.

That's been a problem with the Isles in general. I almost wonder if the original plan was for the Isles to have been in some sort of stasis, I think something to that effect was mentioned in an interview about the Djaradin. As is, they just went to sleep for.. reasons, and the Drakonids were apparently doing nothing for 10,000 years while leaving the place covered in ruins and abandoned settlements.

Pandaria (the direct comparison Blizzard themselves brings up) did a much better job of making the land feel progressed, with major threats contained to the far north and west with the eastern settlements thriving from the peace they enjoyed. I loved how the wall sectioning off the final two zones built up anticipation and intrigue, and by the Dread Wastes the comfy vibes were completely gone and all you had were tenuous mantid allies.

Northrend's the only continent that matched that sense of zone progression in my book.

[Sondrelk]

That's been a problem with the Isles in general. I almost wonder if the original plan was for the Isles to have been in some sort of stasis, I think something to that effect was mentioned in an interview about the Djaradin. As is, they just went to sleep for.. reasons, and the Drakonids were apparently doing nothing for 10,000 years while leaving the place covered in ruins and abandoned settlements.

Pandaria (the direct comparison Blizzard themselves brings up) did a much better job of making the land feel progressed, with major threats contained to the far north and west with the eastern settlements thriving from the peace they enjoyed. I loved how the wall sectioning off the final two zones built up anticipation and intrigue, and by the Dread Wastes the comfy vibes were completely gone and all you had were tenuous mantid allies.

Northrend's the only continent that matched that sense of zone progression in my book.

Dragon Isles definitely feels like they changed their minds on stasis halfway. The ruins and whatnot very much hint at everything being in stasis at least.

I can only imagine they changed it when they wrote the Centaur storyline, not considering how the details change because of it.

The tuskarr at least could just as easily be travellers from Northrend, and nothing would massively change.

[Nymrohd]

Dragon Isles definitely feels like they changed their minds on stasis halfway. The ruins and whatnot very much hint at everything being in stasis at least.

I can only imagine they changed it when they wrote the Centaur storyline, not considering how the details change because of it.

The tuskarr at least could just as easily be travellers from Northrend, and nothing would massively change.

I'd go beyond that. Look at the starting cinematic. It very much tells you the land is sleeping. The cinematic is probably among the things that were storyboarded the earliest because it takes forever to animate it and it is prohibitive to try and make changes to it.

[Dracullus]

Come on, where are the "real" leaks we used to get around this time?

i remember those images for dragonflight leaked, showing the stone dude, the dragons and the logo, i need something like that to fire up my hype.

Man i remember people doing some hacker lv shenanigans to prove how they were fake, those good times

Better compare it to pre-SL season, I think it leaked just few days before and was very limited, just some screenshots and logos. Both 9.1 and 10.0 leaks proved it's far easier to do with online reveal.

[Leowyld]

Better compare it to pre-SL season, I think it leaked just few days before and was very limited, just some screenshots and logos. Both 9.1 and 10.0 leaks proved it's far easier to do with online reveal.

That's a good point. It's the first in person WoW reveal thing we've had in a while. Although, we'll probably at least get the title before the event, one way or another. I don't know if there was an expansion where we didn't at least know the title at some point before it was announced.

[Draedarr]

That's a good point. It's the first in person WoW reveal thing we've had in a while. Although, we'll probably at least get the title before the event, one way or another. I don't know if there was an expansion where we didn't at least know the title at some point before it was announced.

I remember that at least 2 we had the name more than a month earlier but we were all not buying that it would be the name.

[Murlocos]

I'd go beyond that. Look at the starting cinematic. It very much tells you the land is sleeping. The cinematic is probably among the things that were storyboarded the earliest because it takes forever to animate it and it is prohibitive to try and make changes to it.

Absolutely. Metzen left Blizzard two weeks after Legion launched and said the BfA cinematic was the last thing he worked on, and you can see how jarring it feels to the story that takes place immediately before and after it even with Old Soldier trying to band-aid them together.

[Leowyld]

I remember that at least 2 we had the name more than a month earlier but we were all not buying that it would be the name.

I remember Mists of Pandaria was a good ways out. There was that awkward period where Blizzard kept trying to deflect. Like saying Pandaren are something for books.

[Nymrohd]

I remember Mists of Pandaria was a good ways out. There was that awkward period where Blizzard kept trying to deflect. Like saying Pandaren are something for books.

Yeah with MoP someone had found the trademark a lot of time in advance and most people just did not believe it and thought it might be a different type of game.
And then that reveal video at Blizzcon was not exactly exciting so we didn't have any idea what to expect out of it. Though at the end of the day MoP was good because it had exceptional gameplay (most specs played great in MoP) and very solid content (many options for advancement outside raids plus fairly decent raids especially with ToT and SoO)

[Wangming]

Come on, where are the "real" leaks we used to get around this time?

i remember those images for dragonflight leaked, showing the stone dude, the dragons and the logo, i need something like that to fire up my hype.

Man i remember people doing some hacker lv shenanigans to prove how they were fake, those good times

The stone dude came like a day before the reveal, though. The poster? Now that came a week or two before. I think that was the earliest thing to leak.

[Draedarr]

Yeah with MoP someone had found the trademark a lot of time in advance and most people just did not believe it and thought it might be a different type of game.

I think that Pandaria we were all getting the thought that, as the Pandarens were a joke inside Warcraft 3, no way they would add the theme as an expansion, and turned out to be one of the best expansions.

And there was ald The Dark Below that we thought it was an Underground Expansion, and turned out to be for Destiny 2.

[Wangming]

Yeah with MoP someone had found the trademark a lot of time in advance and most people just did not believe it and thought it might be a different type of game.
And then that reveal video at Blizzcon was not exactly exciting so we didn't have any idea what to expect out of it. Though at the end of the day MoP was good because it had exceptional gameplay (most specs played great in MoP) and very solid content (many options for advancement outside raids plus fairly decent raids especially with ToT and SoO)

For me, MoP was the biggest pleasant surprise during WoW's 19 run so far.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

If somehow new class happens again in next expansion which i doubt, i hope it will be something like DK's or monks that will be available to all or many races instead of one which will always be dumb to me, no matter how they will try to "lore" it.

I guess it goes for future classes too.

[Leowyld]

I think that Pandaria we were all getting the thought that, as the Pandarens were a joke inside Warcraft 3, no way they would add the theme as an expansion, and turned out to be one of the best expansions.

And there was ald The Dark Below that we thought it was an Underground Expansion, and turned out to be for Destiny 2.

I didn't consider Chen a joke, myself. We had that keg quest in pre-Cata. So, I was one of the ones who believed we were getting a Pandaren/Pandaria expansion. But... I did not expect Pandaren to also be playable. That part was a surprise. There was a topic on this very site called Told You So something or other with people making predictions about that expansion reveal. People were making wild bets that it wouldn't be anything Pandaren-related, etc. It was pretty funny to read after the fact.