The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[night elf with coal pants]

Dragons lost powers in cataclysm. Dragons old enemies primals escaped from prison. Dragons tried to get dragon powers back with oathstones. Oathstones did nothing. Dragons sat around while player character killed two primals for the dragons. 1 primal noped out with knaifu. Other one joined dragons to become new aspect. Dragons got powers back via amirdrassil.

Dragons aspects got "aspect" power back with the return of Tyr for me, (if Blizzard really plans it), but for the moment we don't know what's going on with this 10.2 , we know what going on until phase 5 of 10.2 campaign (or phase 7 ? The real things i know there are 2 phases not yet revealed on 10.2 campaign , but its only the content of emerald dream without events out of this new content ...)

i can't imagine Blizzard introducing events of Tyr's resurrect and uncorrelating that of the return of Aspects power ! Because its by HIM dragons have Aspects power by the past ! If Blizzard tell us events with Tyr returning in the present by a ressurect : Return of the Aspects power is necessarily linked ! But it can be happen by Amirdrassil power too (Tyr using Amirdrassil power to give new power to Aspects)

And very sorry for my very , very very crap english , but i need to spoke of that ! Nobody tell us of Tyr ressurecting but you spoke of return of Aspects power ? Dude , Tyr is necessarily important of this point and all see that like if is not so important ...

[Worgrims]

Euh je vois une nouvelle monture dans le codex mais pas en boutique un énorme Murloc violet "Grrloc gigantissime"

[Marlamin]

i dont see anything ingame about a new store mount, so must be hidden still

It's still encrypted nor is the aforementioned patch out yet, still only on 10.1.7 PTR.

[xputurnameherex]

I was on the ptr. I was just hoping that they messed up and left it enabled or something to be able to view what it is.

[ChairmanKaga]

Im holding out hopes that the event is just another twitch drop and they give us the ghost TCG horse. Would line up perfectly with hallows eve event.

I've wanted that for so many years.

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Anniversary mount is already known, it's deathwing but blue.

wow you weren't kidding.

[Enrif]

azure world CHILLer and the pet Lil'FROSTwing are for the anniversary event.

both cataclysm flavored, but also both cold flavored.

The Primalists Future is also quite a cold area.

Do not trust Vyranoth.

[Woggmer]

An ice theme for the Dream would have been much better. The fire destroying nature theme has been done to death in WoW. It’s just a pretty lame aesthetic. Ice and snowstorms seeping into the Dream would have been a much more refreshing aesthetic and would have made the Dream aesthetic even more magical.

That could've been what they were going for at the start but decided to switch to Vyranoth being good and her brother being evil.

Like they could've made Sarkareth not the final boss of Aberrus and make Fyrakk the final boss when he gets bathed in Shadowflame to where he's reached his apex.. and then Vyranoth along with the frost primalists would've assaulted to the Emerald Dream like that one questline at the start.

But because the War of the Scaleborn novel, they had to change gears to match with the novel's story and the relationship between Vyranoth and Alexstraza.

That's just a theory, I don't know if that is the truth... and if it is, then Blizz really needs to stop letting the tie-in novels influence the direction of the game and stick to their original plans.

[Merryck]

I'm so annoyed at myself for not getting the Obsidian Worldbreaker. I could've logged on but ... that was a rough period in BfA, I couldn't be bothered. The Worldchiller looks like a decent death knight mount I guess ...

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azure world CHILLer and the pet Lil'FROSTwing are for the anniversary event.

both cataclysm flavored, but also both cold flavored.

The Primalists Future is also quite a cold area.

Do not trust Vyranoth.

You are wise.

[Beerplz]

I'm gonna put my tinfoil hat and say i've heard rumors (Towlliee but who knows) about Classic+ maaaaaaybe being something something what if after Wrath, Cata didn't happen and something else happens

[Nymrohd]

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. Again, creating expectations due to "anniversary dates" and other "connecting the dots" to whatever your fanfiction/head-canon allows. I want 11.0 to be HUGE, too. However, setting yourself up for failure, and blaming Blizzard due to your own ignorance, is not their problem, it's yours.

All I am setting myself up is for a similar level of content that Legion and BfA delivered and that SL and DF did not. Every expansion should be capable of delivering MORE content as technical knowledge accrues.

I think there is a general agreement that Blizzard has breached the trust of the community in recent years and that has included my trust. It was the BfA story and the horrible handling of Azerite armor despite persistent and constructive feedback across the alpha and beta), it was multiple issues with Shadowlands, their own internal drama, Diablo Immortal with one of the most aggressive monetization schemes ever, Warcraft 3: Refunded, Overwatch 2, Diablo 4 falling short of expectations for many of us.

People jumped to the opportunity with DF to say that all is forgiven. And I get it, people have invested nearly two decades of their lives in this game so they are very willing to forgive. But I don't think that just because the content release schedule has been fast and regular that is reason enough to give Blizzard our trust. We have every reason to believe 10.2 is the final season before fated. THis would mean that Dragonflight has less instanced content than Shadowlands (the same number of dungeons, the same number of raids with LESS raid encounters), an expansion partly developed during the pandemic and at a time when the company was dealing with serious drama. I found the two raids we got so far average at best. I was not particularly excited about any of the dungeons.
Yes there has been a lot of other content though. THat is noteworthy. I am not really excited about any of the invasions but there was some effort put into e.g. time rifts But not enough, none of these events has any polish and they absolutely lack any ambition. We have had several small questlines to bring back old content; I found those very engaging but they also are extraordinarily grindy.
But does this world content equal in any way an additional raid tier and two dungeons that would be required to get us to parity with BfA and Legion in instanced content? Does it equal the multitude of class-specific activities available in Legion or the War Campaign, Warfronts and Island Expeditions added in BfA? I just don't think so.

So I feel DF, if it is cut at 10.2.7 and goes for Fated with maybe a few events more added to the open world will fall short of Legion and BfA by a wide margin. And that does not restore my trust.

[Wangming]

So I'm still quite a few pages behind but I was just thinking of how friggin cool the whole Xal'atath thing is/was and wanna give big props to Blizz on that idea. Having her start as a weapon that talks to you, but only if you're a shadow priest even, and end up so important and so involved in the future story just ended up working really well and I love it. I will love it even more if she truly did used to be the rumoured fifth old god.

Well she is definitely someone important. Wether an Old God herself, or just a very powerful Old God servant is another matter. But I'm leaning towards Old God.

[flan1337]

https://reddit.com/r/wow/s/eve8cJWmWC

Check out this odd post that’s gotten no attention. This guy pre ordered a bunch of wow figures with no pictures. Some have ‘war’ at the end releasing Nov 3rd… the class race combos are interesting but nothing too crazy

[ChairmanKaga]

Well she is definitely someone important. Wether an Old God herself, or just a very powerful Old God servant is another matter. But I'm leaning towards Old God.

I think I lean the opposite because she/it has a more distinct personality than any of the Cthun/Yogg/N'Zoth whispers ever did.

[Wangming]

All I am setting myself up is for a similar level of content that Legion and BfA delivered and that SL and DF did not. Every expansion should be capable of delivering MORE content as technical knowledge accrues.

It shouldn't be impossible, really.

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I think I lean the opposite because she/it has a more distinct personality than any of the Cthun/Yogg/N'Zoth whispers ever did.

Interesting point. So is she less or more?

[Marlamin]

https://reddit.com/r/wow/s/eve8cJWmWC

Check out this odd post that’s gotten no attention. This guy pre ordered a bunch of wow figures with no pictures. Some have ‘war’ at the end releasing Nov 3rd… the class race combos are interesting but nothing too crazy

Looks like it is these.

https://toynewsi.com/14-48360

[Wangming]

https://reddit.com/r/wow/s/eve8cJWmWC

Check out this odd post that’s gotten no attention. This guy pre ordered a bunch of wow figures with no pictures. Some have ‘war’ at the end releasing Nov 3rd… the class race combos are interesting but nothing too crazy

If I really want to find something in it, I would say dual class. Shaman - Warrior, Paladin - Warrior, Druid - Rogue.

[Gigantique]

I don't know if I can honestly agree. Cinematically he comes to attack the Niffen village doing next to no damage for a being of his power level, then disappears for a patch. Only to come back and fly on a course across 1 of 2 zones, only to back off and leave a mini him in charge for.. reasons? I understand this is mmo gameplay letting the possible fear of him down, but the only person they did a good job as setting up as a true 'scary' villain is Iridikron. The aspects fear him and what he is capable of doing and we are shown this.

Fyrakk flies around the Ilse's burning 2 of 4 zones and Alextrasza is too busy hugging Nozdormu to care about him. Its a shame really. Fyrakk does have villain potential. They've just dropped the ball again.

Nah, Fyrakk is one of the (sadly) few villains that gotmto actually murder people (lots of the inhabitants of Loamm died during his attack) which was just a drive by of sorts. Sure he gets a bit crippled in the zones since we can't fight him there but he at least gets to have a presence (one that actively incinerates any player getting too close) unlike most other villains who sit in their castles waiting for us. His appearance in cutscenes is also really well done, gives off Doctor Nefarious vibes but you know, not incompetent lmao.

Iridikron right now is just Jailer 2.0 or Sylvanas 2.0 in that he has 54D chess plans but hasn't *really* done anything yet other than just... Appear, monologue and then leave. Hell even our one fight against him got actively retconned in-lore (altho his catch-22 trap in Dawn of the Infinite WAS a really cool and nefarious plan on his side I'll give him that.)

[Nymrohd]

It shouldn't be impossible, really.

It should be EXPECTED. You have every reason to expect parity or improvement to previous experience.

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Iridikron right now is just Jailer 2.0 or Sylvanas 2.0 in that he has 54D chess plans but hasn't *really* done anything yet other than just... Appear, monologue and then leave. Hell even our one fight against him got actively retconned in-lore (altho his catch-22 trap in Dawn of the Infinite WAS a really cool and nefarious plan on his side I'll give him that.)

The problem there is not Iridikron for me. It's entirely Alexstrasza. The villain does not owe it to you to expose his plot. But the plot protagonist is supposed to try and find out what he is plotting. What is Alex doing in Valdrakken, sampling cheese at Gorgonzormu's booth? Why is no one seen investigating Iridikron's plans. We got Vyranoth as an ally and now all our focus is on the tree that was very well protected . . . because the Dream is apparently not full of holes like Alterac Swiss and every last villain on Azeroth has managed to get in and corrupt part of it. And we have time to send Vyranoth into diplomatic missions instead of asking her wtf Iridikron is planning.

[Enrif]

Looks like it is these.

https://toynewsi.com/14-48360

the orc shaman and undead warlock look like they are rehgar earthfury and meryl felstorm. they had figures back in the day too (https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Action_figures)

no idea who the rest is supposed to be

[lanerios]

Looking at the blizzcon early access stuff
Looks like we might be getting starcraft stuff
New shirt
Maybe means a new game which with Microsoft taking over makes sense because they will want to use every IP

Starcraft Ghost is finally happening? One can dream!