The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

Wonder if the Tyr finale will have Vyr tell us what Iri"s plan is.

Then that combined with what ever happens in the new moon cinematic will lead us into an Elune, Eonar, and Ysera (because of blizzcon pet) story for 11.0.

And if Eonar is involved will the other titans also be involved.

If so does that mean Illidan will be back? Will sargeras be an unlikely ally now that the legion is probably being run by sire D.

Also if Elune is involved, will the naaru also be involved due to their heavy implications that Elune created them as theorized by Khadgar in legion.

Then we also have Iri, xal, and azshara on team void and the word soul possibly being located hidden in the other side in Uldaz.

And another bit worth mentioning is voljin is currently in a loa caccoon. Will he emerge soon?

What about Helya being back in azeroth? Will she help us take out Odyn?

illidan walking sargeras around avaloren on a leash all expansion

In all seriousness, it does feel like 11.0 will be a middle expansion in a trilogy. The Elune creating Naaru thing is an interesting angle I've never heard. I'll keep standing by my opinion that Elune is unlike anything else in the WoW universe, and possibly more dangerous than all of which we know. She seems to be one of the only entities unaligned to a single cosmic force, but taking from multiple.

[Izalla]

Finally something to weed out the fakes for sure! Also holy crap you managed to summon Boub even though he hadn't logged on since June prior to that post!

[Wangming]

Finally something to weed out the fakes for sure! Also holy crap you managed to summon Boub even though he hadn't logged on since June prior to that post!

Oh, Hi! Glad you're back. How have you been?

[Xilurm]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-1...drassil-335534

Now this is what I'm talking about. Thanks.

[hattahat]

Both Vyranoth and Iridikron are disgusted by the Titans' de facto colonization of Azeroth, the difference being that Iridikron has no qualms about using other powers, currently the Void, to erase the Titans' influence, while Vyranoth simply wants to do the right thing and not be tainted by other powers in the process.
Vyranoth herself is clearly a good and righteous character, but I'm sure the subsequent resurrection of Tyr will introduce a new element of conflict.

[Marlamin]

Also holy crap you managed to summon Boub even though he hadn't logged on since June prior to that post!

He works in mysterious ways.

[huth]

The tree and boomkin are on fire. Out of the 9 bosses (when have we had just 9 for a final raid btw), 7 are fire themed.

And the ones that are strange are the non-fire themed ones. Of course most of the enemies are fire themed. The main big bad of the patch is literally powered by elemental fire.

[Samin]

Vyranoth herself is clearly a good and righteous character, but I'm sure the subsequent resurrection of Tyr will introduce a new element of conflict.

Yes, when Vyranoth and Tyr fall in love that will sure leave them conflicted, but it will be beautiful.

[huth]

RPGs have never been out of favour. Publishers just don't want to make them because they can't monetize them hell and back like live service Battle Pass crap.

RTS games are for real our of fashion.

Nah, they have effectively the same problem, publishers tried to make them something they aren't for moneyz and it doesn't work. The problem isn't the genre. It's the lack of people just trying to make a good RTS instead of some esports legend or multiplayer live service.

[Worldshaper]

Small theory for Classic: Awakening - the title is referring to N'Zoth's talk of sleep, eyes being closed, dreamers, etc.

What if we were sleeping, in some sense, this entire time. The Harbinger carrying out an "awakening" refers to her waking is up, throwing us out from that timeline, so that the Void might carry on unhindered.

[Ersula]

Both Vyranoth and Iridikron are disgusted by the Titans' de facto colonization of Azeroth, the difference being that Iridikron has no qualms about using other powers, currently the Void, to erase the Titans' influence, while Vyranoth simply wants to do the right thing and not be tainted by other powers in the process.
Vyranoth herself is clearly a good and righteous character, but I'm sure the subsequent resurrection of Tyr will introduce a new element of conflict.

This is the biggest reason 10.2 doesn't make sense as the final raid teir. I suppose all the story that is left could be covered in a minor patch but the majority of players just ignore minor patch story stuff.

[ercarp]

Your mains should be banned for stuff like this.

What a strange thing to do.

Relax.

Fake leaks are part of what make the leak season so fun. If there weren't people making them, there would be nothing to discuss.

[Well Done Steak]

illidan walking sargeras around avaloren on a leash all expansion

In all seriousness, it does feel like 11.0 will be a middle expansion in a trilogy. The Elune creating Naaru thing is an interesting angle I've never heard. I'll keep standing by my opinion that Elune is unlike anything else in the WoW universe, and possibly more dangerous than all of which we know. She seems to be one of the only entities unaligned to a single cosmic force, but taking from multiple.

Personally I think 11.0 will be the epic conclusion to all this shit that has been brewing since wrathion ate Lei shen's heart.

10 exp, 20/30 th anni feels good to go all out

[Darkarath]

This is the biggest reason 10.2 doesn't make sense as the final raid teir. I suppose all the story that is left could be covered in a minor patch but the majority of players just ignore minor patch story stuff.

Yes, keep praying for a 10.3 like I do. DF has more than enough to have one.

Can actually Scaleface solve this question? @Scaleface, I am more worried about the lack of a 10.3 than about 11.0. Something to share?

[Leowyld]

If we have a 10.3, it would have to be a self-contained Dragon Isles story and not something that connects meaningfully to 11.0, because we will already knows what the main plot of 11.0 is well before we have 10.3 on PTR. We'll not only have the Opening Ceremony, by that point, but also all the following panels and interviews that love to chat about future plot points. It makes sense for the connecting plot to 11.0 to be the last story we played live before BlizzCon, and that is the Iridikron and the void portal stuff. Iridikron going through that portal is like Sylvanas flying off to show up for the next expansion. I'm almost certain that is what we will see. And, if that is the case, Fyrakk makes sense as a final boss. Who else would it be with that setup?

[ImTheMizAwesome]

There will be 10.2.5 and .7 patches with story and some evergreen content for sure, 10.3 probably will be just fated raids and some story.

[ercarp]

Speaking of @Scaleface, why aren't more people talking about what he wrote about 11.0 back in September? I guess it's not much to go on, or it has already been discussed to death, but I don't think he would be making this up. Void and dreadlords?

As I wrote to few ppl before in private - all I have this time is just a pack of screens, nothing more (and based on the screens themselves there is no point in guessing like with DF where I had much more information).
It is too risky to upload them in higher quality, as they may be sent intentionally (they may be, for example, generated by AI) to target people who post information during the NDA. Also, as I also mentioned - don't take it too seriously but: most of them have locations with purple skies and models that look very much like dreadlords.
That's why this time I'm refraining from posting anything, even in the same form as in DF - although it was very funny when you discovered the next clues one by one I simply don't have much information (only a handful of screenshots), and I don't want to cause confusion.

Also, I've tried to make fake screenshots using AI and all the tools I've used (DALL-E, Midjourney, StableDiffusion) suck at creating anything that looks even vaguely WoW-like. So if he genuinely has screenshots in his possession and they look like WoW, then I doubt that they were AI generated.

[Santandame]

Speaking of @Scaleface, why aren't more people talking about what he wrote about 11.0 back in September? I guess it's not much to go on, or it has already been discussed to death, but I don't think he would be making this up. Void and dreadlords?



Also, I've tried to make fake screenshots using AI and all the tools I've tried suck at creating anything that looks even vaguely WoW-like. So if he genuinely has screenshots in his possession and they look like WoW, then I doubt that they were AI generated.

We did discuss it quite a fair bit. General belief was that it was AI.

I’m pretty sure he even admitted they were AI and that a friend sent them to him as a hint.

But yeah, he pretty much said he has nothing this time round.

[Raetary]

Honestly I would have gone for a full on winter theme to really play on the hibernation theme.
Would have made the corrupted areas more distinct. Even more so considering you could contrast the soothing winter with a harsh one.

Honestly, the corrupted areas made thematically no sense.
Ardenweald decaying from Winter into autumn was such a weird decision.

The autumn colors should've been integrated into Ardenwealds base design.
Could've had us start out in an autumn themed starting location, and then have the zone progressively shift into winter and dark blues.

The Drust destabilizing the realm into a harsh, corrupt, uninhabitable Blizzard, in contrast to the calm, cold, snowy winter night, would've made a lot more sense and be visually a lot more impressive.

[Wangming]

Speaking of @Scaleface, why aren't more people talking about what he wrote about 11.0 back in September? I guess it's not much to go on, or it has already been discussed to death, but I don't think he would be making this up. Void and dreadlords?



Also, I've tried to make fake screenshots using AI and all the tools I've used (DALL-E, Midjourney, StableDiffusion) suck at creating anything that looks even vaguely WoW-like. So if he genuinely has screenshots in his possession and they look like WoW, then I doubt that they were AI generated.

Interesting. Well Dreadlord looking enemies kinda make sense with Big D still at large. But they aren't really affiliated with the Void. And in WoW purple is generally void stuff. or Darkmoon Faire. Which might be the same thing really.

And yes, I don't think @Scaleface is lying. I mean why destroy the clout he built up last time?

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Honestly, the corrupted areas made thematically no sense.
Ardenweald decaying from Winter into autumn was such a weird decision.

Right?! That's just nonsense.