The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Enrif]

Just for a history.

i don't think nobles into something but let's analyze each image

First Image: The rabbit on the moon is obviously going for chang'e and the moon rabbit from east asian folklore. Or is it? In multiple other asian and even indigenous american folklore the rabbit in the moon is a symbol of sacrifice, often through burning to be prepared as food. And wasn't elune's thing in shadowlands not about renewal over vengeance? Basically sacrificing her followers for a renewal of the tree? And what do we see the rabbit is on? The moon next to the burned down tree. Like the rabbit that got burned. I would say the image means: Elune will sacrifice or will be sacrificed.

Second Image: Shows the Going Marry from One Piece coming out of a portal/destroyed world, with (a moaning?) Queen Azshara under a starlit sky. The Going Marry is a Caravel, the Straw Hat Pirates, call themselves pirates but are more like Adventurers. The caravel was a ship to explore west african and the atlantic. So, we get a west ward sailing adventurer calling themselves pirates. So this is a stand in for Nightsquall. Queen Azshara seems to be fleeing from Nightsquall. So, this image reads as: Nighsquall hunts Azhara across the planes (portal/world in background)

Third Image: Sylvanas, Turalyon, and Moira. Hunter, Paladin, Priest. Death, Light, Shadow. Elf, Human, Dwarf, standing in the black empire before the all seeing eye of sauron. This is probably the most cryptic one. Why the eye of sauron if there is a old god eye he could have used. Why Sylvanas, but not Anduin instead of Turalyon? I think the three characters represent rather the concepts of death, light and void. But why would void stand against the dark empire? We recently got more glimpses into celestial void. It could be that celestial void and old gods don't work as much in tandem as we think. What if, old gods are life-tainted void creatures? All that fleshy-ness they have is eerie as if life was corrupted, or life corrupted something that is not meant to live. With Azshara we know she went after something above the old gods, with Alleria (the wife of Turalyon) we know celestial void is not as bad as old gods. So, overall, this image means: Light, Void and Death will fight against the old Gods. Which one? well, the eye of Sauron watches. Which old god watched a lot? Xal'ataht.


So in sum: Elune will sacrifice something, so Nightsquall can hunt down Azshara, which leads to a conflict between Death, Light, Void versus the Old Gods.

Well, i'm sure on the first two images. The third one is the best guess i can make

[Alanar]

I think the Hearthstone Gadgetzan has been universally appreciated and desired by WoW players. I don't think I've seen any other external idea with that kind of praise and appreciation; lots of people like this or that from other Warcraft-adjacent projects - for example, I know some HotS players who had hoped we'd see the Alex model from that game, or some people in this very thread who want Rafaam to make a big splash in WoW canon - but it seems like everyone wants Gadgetzan to be a sprawling hive of scum and villainy overtaking half the Tanaris desert zone.

I want it too!

Even if that doesnt happen, we still have the Undermine, which should be equal if not more so! The setting could be quite cool.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

Ironically if half the Hearthstone ideas were put into the game, people would shit themselves as they are "sillier" than Dragonflight. Like can you imagine if Dalaran was turned into a mage college, Gadgetzan was Arkane 2.0 and Badlands was cowboys?

People want more expansions of the old world, but if it was as "silly" as Hearthstone people would bitch soooooo hard.

Also, no, BFA having a pirate quest area and two pirate dungeons because pirates are the enemies of Kul Tirans doesn't mean it's a pirate expansion.

It wasn't a pirate expansion, but it was still more than enough of that crap. The pirate part of WoW is one of the worst, most boring parts.
If we get an actual pirate expansion, I'm gonna hate every second of it.

[Teriz]

Ironically if half the Hearthstone ideas were put into the game, people would shit themselves as they are "sillier" than Dragonflight. Like can you imagine if Dalaran was turned into a mage college, Gadgetzan was Arkane 2.0 and Badlands was cowboys?

People want more expansions of the old world, but if it was as "silly" as Hearthstone people would bitch soooooo hard.

That was Scholomance, and yeah I'd be down for turning it into a mage/wizard academy;



Maybe a class-only bit of content where Mages can go to get unique transmogs, spell glyphs, and exclusive mounts? Why would anyone dislike that?

Do something like that for the other classes too. Kind of like an expanded version of Order Halls.

[Wangming]

That was Scholomance, and yeah I'd be down for turning it into a mage/wizard academy;



Maybe a class-only bit of content where Mages can go to get unique transmogs, spell glyphs, and exclusive mounts? Why would anyone dislike that?

Do something like that for the other classes too. Kind of like an expanded version of Order Halls.

I mean Scholomance is quite literally a school of magic in Romaninan folklore. In the books Dracula's magical abilities are less because of his vampiric nature and more cause he attended the school.

[Teriz]

I mean Scholomance is quite literally a school of magic in Romaninan folklore. In the books Dracula's magical abilities are less because of his vampiric nature and more cause he attended the school.

In a world revamp, Blizzard could take it in any direction they'd like.

[Wangming]

In a world revamp, Blizzard could take it in any direction they'd like.

I'll have to go for a walk, but after that remind me to outline the quest hub I always dreamed of having in WoW.
(surprisingly enough it does not have vampires)

[milkmustache]

Maybe a class-only bit of content where Mages can go to get unique transmogs, spell glyphs, and exclusive mounts? Why would anyone dislike that?

Do something like that for the other classes too. Kind of like an expanded version of Order Halls.

Credit must be given where it's due; taking Hearthstone content and using it as inspiration for new Order Hall/Class Campaigns/Class based features is an absolutely awesome idea. Live class fantasies, get some more slice of life content without it taking from the main plotline. Purely a hypothetical idea, but a really great one at that.

[Pinksocking]

i don't think nobles into something but let's analyze each image

First Image: The rabbit on the moon is obviously going for chang'e and the moon rabbit from east asian folklore. Or is it? In multiple other asian and even indigenous american folklore the rabbit in the moon is a symbol of sacrifice, often through burning to be prepared as food. And wasn't elune's thing in shadowlands not about renewal over vengeance? Basically sacrificing her followers for a renewal of the tree? And what do we see the rabbit is on? The moon next to the burned down tree. Like the rabbit that got burned. I would say the image means: Elune will sacrifice or will be sacrificed.

Second Image: Shows the Going Marry from One Piece coming out of a portal/destroyed world, with (a moaning?) Queen Azshara under a starlit sky. The Going Marry is a Caravel, the Straw Hat Pirates, call themselves pirates but are more like Adventurers. The caravel was a ship to explore west african and the atlantic. So, we get a west ward sailing adventurer calling themselves pirates. So this is a stand in for Nightsquall. Queen Azshara seems to be fleeing from Nightsquall. So, this image reads as: Nighsquall hunts Azhara across the planes (portal/world in background)

Third Image: Sylvanas, Turalyon, and Moira. Hunter, Paladin, Priest. Death, Light, Shadow. Elf, Human, Dwarf, standing in the black empire before the all seeing eye of sauron. This is probably the most cryptic one. Why the eye of sauron if there is a old god eye he could have used. Why Sylvanas, but not Anduin instead of Turalyon? I think the three characters represent rather the concepts of death, light and void. But why would void stand against the dark empire? We recently got more glimpses into celestial void. It could be that celestial void and old gods don't work as much in tandem as we think. What if, old gods are life-tainted void creatures? All that fleshy-ness they have is eerie as if life was corrupted, or life corrupted something that is not meant to live. With Azshara we know she went after something above the old gods, with Alleria (the wife of Turalyon) we know celestial void is not as bad as old gods. So, overall, this image means: Light, Void and Death will fight against the old Gods. Which one? well, the eye of Sauron watches. Which old god watched a lot? Xal'ataht.


So in sum: Elune will sacrifice something, so Nightsquall can hunt down Azshara, which leads to a conflict between Death, Light, Void versus the Old Gods.

Well, i'm sure on the first two images. The third one is the best guess i can make

I want more nzoth very badly

luv that mf

[Paula Deen]

Ironically if half the Hearthstone ideas were put into the game, people would shit themselves as they are "sillier" than Dragonflight. Like can you imagine if Dalaran was turned into a mage college, Gadgetzan was Arkane 2.0 and Badlands was cowboys?

People want more expansions of the old world, but if it was as "silly" as Hearthstone people would bitch soooooo hard.

Also, no, BFA having a pirate quest area and two pirate dungeons because pirates are the enemies of Kul Tirans doesn't mean it's a pirate expansion.

The amount of constant bitching I have had to endure about how Dragonflight and Pandaria are too childish is proof enough. The average WoW Playing Brainlet is too stupid to enjoy fun.

[Pinksocking]

The amount of constant bitching I have had to endure about how Dragonflight and Pandaria are too childish is proof enough. The average WoW Playing Brainlet is too stupid to enjoy fun.

bro is spittin hot fire on mmo champ today

[Woggmer]

Oh gosh, I very much doubt anyone would have prefered the Alex HOTS model, right?

Alex's HOTS model was the same design as Ysera's and Sylvanas's (pre-legion) outfits.

Looking back on it, I kinda prefer the HotS version over the DF redesign, mostly because the DF redesign has too much going on and it feels like it's trying to emulate Sylvanas's Mawsworn design from SL.

But that is a whole other discussion that has no bearing here.

[Nymrohd]

I think Hearthstone is not "childish". It is comedic and often outright camp and showcases the execution of those concepts with brilliant cinematics. Similarly fun concepts in WoW (e.g. the Grummles) were largely embraced by the community.

[Raetary]

Oh gosh, I very much doubt anyone would have prefered the Alex HOTS model, right? Rafaam on the other hand - we actually datamined him back in Dragonflight Alpha iirc.

Alex's hots model has been praised to the moon and back.

[PotHockets]

Alex's HOTS model was the same design as Ysera's and Sylvanas's (pre-legion) outfits.

Looking back on it, I kinda prefer the HotS version over the DF redesign, mostly because the DF redesign has too much going on and it feels like it's trying to emulate Sylvanas's Mawsworn design from SL.

But that is a whole other discussion that has no bearing here.

The HotS model is some weird fetish version of Alex and I refuse to believe anyone could possibly look at it and not see just how horny the designer in charge of it was. Thank god they didn't look to that one for inspiration.

[Paula Deen]

I think Hearthstone is not "childish". It is comedic and often outright camp and showcases the execution of those concepts with brilliant cinematics. Similarly fun concepts in WoW (e.g. the Grummles) were largely embraced by the community.

Thats the issue though. You and I may partake in some comedic and campy fun but the average person who slobs on all over Orc and Zovaal Nips is not going to be enjoying that because they enjoyed inhaling lead as children.

[Selorian]

The amount of constant bitching I have had to endure about how Dragonflight and Pandaria are too childish is proof enough. The average WoW Playing Brainlet is too stupid to enjoy fun.

true and based

[Woggmer]

The HotS model is some weird fetish version of Alex and I refuse to believe anyone could possibly look at it and not see just how horny the designer in charge of it was. Thank god they didn't look to that one for inspiration.

Have you see Alexstraza's old WoW design? It was even lewder than the HotS version. The only critique I'd give about the HotS design is that they made her horns freakin' huge. (And I don't mean that as an innuendo, I literally mean her actual dragon horns are freakishly huge.)

[ImTheMizAwesome]

slobs on all over Orc

i slob all over my orcs.

[Xilurm]

Have you see Alexstraza's old WoW design? It was even lewder than the HotS version. The only critique I'd give about the HotS design is that they made her horns freakin' huge. (And I don't mean that as an innuendo, I literally mean her actual dragon horns are freakishly huge.)

She is way more voluptuous in HotS than in WoW with her old Blood Elf model. Though complaining about it is just as weird.