The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Darkarath]

Yes, WoW needs a big new feature like Mythic+ that will carry on to future expansions. The idea behind Torghast wasn't terrible, it was just executed poorly. Infinitely scaling procedurally generated solo content sounds awesome on paper, it's a shame Torghast just didn't really deliver on that.

Yes, Torghast has so much potential. They really should revisit it.

The problem is that not all specs could be balanced equally.

What would you think about a true roguelike? We start with one of three skills and we keep getting more passives an actives, unique new ones, they can even use it to experiment with future classes or crazy conceptos that they have in mind.

[Sebashtian]

Secrets of Azeroth/Secrets of Avaloren

Wouldn't it be perfect if a questline which seems to have an open ending was a teaser to what is to come, happened to be the name of the next expansion pack?

Just a thought~

[Azalar]

Yes, Torghast has so much potential. They really should revisit it.

The problem is that not all specs could be balanced equally.

What would you think about a true roguelike? We start with one of three skills and we keep getting more passives an actives, unique new ones, they can even use it to experiment with future classes or crazy conceptos that they have in mind.

Random idea: You start with no class and gain skills from many classes as you progress.

Then again, Blizz would say "hurr but then you'd lose the fantasy of your character" and that's right, but it's a way of doing it xD

[Gloriandus]

I hope we don't get yet another island with inexplicably varied biomes and weather types. We don't need to have a winter zone on every landmass, for example. I'm in the camp of "let the expansion zones be ALL of existing Azeroth".

I expect them to continue the immense verticality from Dragonflight, re-use the "underground tech" to excess, and re-use dragonriding in some "new" form. Also to triple down on their "same cave syndrome" and "this patch is only for catch-up" design, still somehow not have the "overhauled" UI completed, and flip-flop on lore.

EDIT: If a new landmass, I'd also love to not have every new zone plagued by "crumbling civilzation" everywhere.

[ercarp]

Secrets of Azeroth/Secrets of Avaloren

Wouldn't it be perfect if a questline which seems to have an open ending was a teaser to what is to come, happened to be the name of the next expansion pack?

Just a thought~

You're referring to the World Event named Secrets of Azeroth? You're saying that could be the name of the next expansion?

[Azalar]

You're referring to the World Event named Secrets of Azeroth? You're saying that could be the name of the next expansion?

If it ends up being something something Tyr, it kinda makes sense the title is "Secrets of something".

[Sebashtian]

You're referring to the World Event named [Removed link, can't post those myself - Sebashtian] Secrets of Azeroth? You're saying that could be the name of the next expansion?

I am! It would be wild and different, but I wouldn't put it beyond Blizz now that they're trying a bunch of new stuff with Dragonflight ^^
The story involves cosmic myster, a possible return of ancient enemies and much more. What better way to tease what is to be uncovered in the next expansion?

[Valysar]

The Emerald Dream fish have really weird sounds.

The fish mount has this sound too

[Sebashtian]

If it ends up being something something Tyr, it kinda makes sense the title is "Secrets of something".

I totally agree with this as well, we are slowly uncovering many secrets this entire xpack and working to some bigger things.

[Seasz]

If I had a coin for every time a new "leak" mentions "partially underground"...

[Algarstorms]

World of Warcraft: Storms of Avaloren
lvl cap raised to 80
New neutral race: Algaren. tall dwarves made of stone but have colored hair.
New continent: Avaloren.
4 zones. Art looked like jungle, desert, snowy peaks and rocky peaks.
Khaz algar capital city partially underground. Like IF if half of it was above ground.
No new specs. Some specs turned into support specs.
lightbound titan keepers
storm dreadlords
fancy dragon/moth hybrid things
Saw what looked to be a boat piloted by a player character.
Image of Silvermoon with a harbor and a lot of nightborne asthetics around as well.
gilneas repaired with night elf asthetics around and a harbor where the worgen starting zone is.

i wrote fast on my lunch break let me clairify some things. I only saw some slides and pamphlets.
Algaren look cool, lots of rocky protrusions out their shoulders and back that look customizable, and lightning beards like dark irons lava beards. they are still smaller than orcs but a head or so taller than dwarves. Their haird is real hair and not rock shapoed like hair.

The zones looked great but only saw concept art.
khaz algar being partially underground its more like in a giant cave with part coming out.
lightbound titan keeper meaning a very holy looking infused thing that looked like a titan keeper to me. doesant mean it was one.
A very elemental looking dreadlord. could have just used the skeleton but it looked pretty dreadlordy to me.
dragons with fur, antenea and moth wings. looks very different then waht i saw. one was being flown by a dracthyr in visage form in a mage gear set.
Also saw a dracthyr shaman in the support spec image, as well as what looked like a dwarf in druid like gear and an Algaren priest. looks like priests can get angel wings and hover around a bit like evokers, but maybe thats already in game i dont play priests.
boat looked like a massive mount. had a night elf at the wheel and a bunch of alliance races running around the deck.
silvermoon has a big statue of lorthemar and thelysra at the harbor and lots of ships including high elf and human ones.
gilneas had night elf asthetics in one shoit but i think its more like a night elf district than the entire city. there was also a drust kul tiran district. Gen gets a new human model with fancier coat. mia still in her pixelated dress.

[Hitei]

i wrote fast on my lunch break let me clairify some things. I only saw some slides and pamphlets.
Algaren look cool, lots of rocky protrusions out their shoulders and back that look customizable, and lightning beards like dark irons lava beards. they are still smaller than orcs but a head or so taller than dwarves. Their haird is real hair and not rock shapoed like hair.

The zones looked great but only saw concept art.
khaz algar being partially underground its more like in a giant cave with part coming out.
lightbound titan keeper meaning a very holy looking infused thing that looked like a titan keeper to me. doesant mean it was one.
A very elemental looking dreadlord. could have just used the skeleton but it looked pretty dreadlordy to me.
dragons with fur, antenea and moth wings. looks very different then waht i saw. one was being flown by a dracthyr in visage form in a mage gear set.
Also saw a dracthyr shaman in the support spec image, as well as what looked like a dwarf in druid like gear and an Algaren priest. looks like priests can get angel wings and hover around a bit like evokers, but maybe thats already in game i dont play priests.
boat looked like a massive mount. had a night elf at the wheel and a bunch of alliance races running around the deck.
silvermoon has a big statue of lorthemar and thelysra at the harbor and lots of ships including high elf and human ones.
gilneas had night elf asthetics in one shoit but i think its more like a night elf district than the entire city. there was also a drust kul tiran district. Gen gets a new human model with fancier coat. mia still in her pixelated dress.

You don't need to clarify things, you already fucked up enough to discredit yourself with the support specs thing.

[Paula Deen]

Secrets of Azeroth/Secrets of Avaloren

Wouldn't it be perfect if a questline which seems to have an open ending was a teaser to what is to come, happened to be the name of the next expansion pack?

Just a thought~

I cannot believe I hadn't thought of this!

[Izalla]

So I'm still 20 pages behind and sick of reading/skimming over people bitching endlessly about how bad they think the writing is and how personal they take it that the writers aren't begging for their forgiveness.

Can anyone summarize anything worth knowing since yesterday?

[Azalar]

Well that's a lot of deets for only having seen some slides and pamphlets, huh.

[ercarp]

i wrote fast on my lunch break let me clairify some things

--snip--

I don't think I've ever seen a real leaker come back and start clarifying stuff.

[Santandame]

So, to bring this back on topic...

What are your expectations for 11.0 vs. what you actually want 11.0 to be?

I'm expecting Avaloren/Khaz Algar, but I'm hoping (and coping) for a world revamp, or better yet, a tropical jungle adventure expansion in Tel'Abim. I also wouldn't mind going back to space (K'aresh?) or dealing with Yrel's Lightbound, but it feels a bit soon for either of those.

I would love an Arabic/Central Asia inspired Tel’Abim continent with a jungle zone. Aside from those Skywall enemies, we’ve not seen Djinn or Ifrit in WoW and in Arabic mythology they’re terrifying, so I’d love to see a decent representation of them.

A capital city in the desert would feel very refreshing for a WoW expansion. I’m imagining a magical city of brass in the sands with tall spires, bustling bazaars full of magic and traders, apothecaries, hookah lounges, story tellers in the street with crowds gathered around listening. Essentially Agrabah or Daevabad from S.A Chakraborty’s Daevabad Trilogy.

[Wangming]

So I'm still 20 pages behind and sick of reading/skimming over people bitching endlessly about how bad they think the writing is and how personal they take it that the writers aren't begging for their forgiveness.

Can anyone summarize anything worth knowing since yesterday?

Well Nobbel's tweet was fun. It is generally seen a a shitpost, but we are so starved for clues that we did our best to analyze it just in case it is legit.
Our best guess: Fuck knows.

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I would love an Arabic/Central Asia inspired Tel’Abim continent with a jungle zone. Aside from those Skywall enemies, we’ve not seen Djinn or Ifrit in WoW and in Arabic mythology they’re terrifying, so I’d love to see a decent representation of them.

A capital city in the desert would feel very refreshing for a WoW expansion. I’m imagining a magical city of brass in the sands with y’all spires, bustling bazaars full of magic and traders, apothecaries, hookah lounges, story tellers in the street with crowds gathered around listening.

Count me in. Give us Silk Road vibes.

[Izalla]

Well nobbel's tweet was fun. It is generally seen a a shitpost, but we are so starved for clues that we did our best to analyze it just in case it is legit.
Our best guess: Fuck knows.

- - - Updated - - -



Count me in. Give us Silk Road vibes.

What was the tweet?

[Paula Deen]

So I'm still 20 pages behind and sick of reading/skimming over people bitching endlessly about how bad they think the writing is and how personal they take it that the writers aren't begging for their forgiveness.

Can anyone summarize anything worth knowing since yesterday?

Nobbel made a meme tweet and it kept people busy. Other than that just more bitching.