The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joszef Kiprich]

Hello sexy people of the hype thread.
I'm guessing we have no leaks, cause people are just talking about First One lore.

Which if already find boring in game, let alone discussing it what I hoped was the hype thread. Anyways.... still no believable leaks yet?
Wel except for the hockey jersey one. matijwow already nailed that one.

[PotHockets]

Hello sexy people of the hype thread.
I'm guessing we have no leaks, cause people are just talking about First One lore.

There was one person that was leaking stuff over the course of a few comments. 22mage22. It was definitely some original leaks at least.

[KyleEverett]

So Li Li's joined up with Pirates but there's absolutely no Pirates in 11.0

[Wangming]

So Li Li's joined up with Pirates but there's absolutely no Pirates in 11.0

Aged up pirate Li Li model when?

[Hitei]

There was one person that was leaking stuff over the course of a few comments. 22mage22. It was definitely some original leaks at least.

Only particularly original part was not-dwarf-dwarf-skeleton race.

[PotHockets]

Only particularly original part was not-dwarf-dwarf-skeleton race.

I thought they threw some other original stuff besides the weird elemental dwarfs in but honestly I didn't really pay much attention to it. I saw the elemental dwarf model thing and I guess blocked the rest out.

[Jaggler]

The new lore with the six main cosmic forces and the first ones doesn't hurt wow lore in itself. You just need to handle it carefully. Stuff like Zereth Mortis is way too close to those overarching powers, but having these different pantheons/forces opens up a lot of possibilities for future storylines and mysteres. just keep them more in the background and not the forefront of it.

10.2 is a good example. We are dabbleing a bit in a realm that seems to be directly linked to the "Lifelands" and we get to hear, that there is "something at the edges of the dream", but we stop there and keep it just unfocussed enough to be intrigueing and we arent't discovering the rules, laws and machinery of a "life-realm" like shadowlands was.

[Calfredd]

There was one person that was leaking stuff over the course of a few comments. 22mage22. It was definitely some original leaks at least.

Only particularly original part was not-dwarf-dwarf-skeleton race.

I may have skipped a few pages but I thought that was already written off as fake or at least not very believable.

[PotHockets]

I may have skipped a few pages but I thought that was already written off as fake or at least not very believable.

It definitely seemed super fake from the get go and not even in a fun way which is why I mostly ignored it. Just the elemental dwarf thing stood out cause it was at least something new. Not sure if it got actually debunked somehow but it was giving off trying to imitate scaleface vibe to me.

[Hitei]

I thought they threw some other original stuff besides the weird elemental dwarfs in but honestly I didn't really pay much attention to it. I saw the elemental dwarf model thing and I guess blocked the rest out.

Nah. Khaz Algar, EK revamp, the standard "they're redoing glyphs!" thing, third DH spec. Pretty run of the mill stuff.

[matijwow]

He kept saying "lands of conflict" which I assume means Eastern Kingdoms revamp, since that's what the book Lands of Conflict is about.

[PotHockets]

Nah. Khaz Algar, EK revamp, the standard "they're redoing glyphs!" thing, third DH spec. Pretty run of the mill stuff.

Oh right and Shamans for everyone which like yeah no shit that's gonna happen eventually

[Civciv]

Oh right and Shamans for everyone which like yeah no shit that's gonna happen eventually

Can't wait to racechange my dwarf to gnome.

[Wangming]

The new lore with the six main cosmic forces and the first ones doesn't hurt wow lore in itself..

I beg to differ. The innane list of ever biggerer and strongerer forces with nobody really in charge of anything is just dumb. It should have stopped with the Titan/Eternal One and Old God level. No First Ones, no Void Lords.

[matijwow]

Did they wrap up Nozdormu? The dungeon cutscene at the end focused on Iridikron, but back in the Cataclysm End Time, Murozond says the true end time is way worse. Shouldn't he know what that is now?

[Azalar]

Just went over Scaleface's pics to emphasize that they look very Outlandish and spacey. Even undergroundy to some extent.

[Wangming]

Did they wrap up Nozdormu? The dungeon cutscene at the end focused on Iridikron, but back in the Cataclysm End Time, Murozond says the true end time is way worse. Shouldn't he know what that is now?

They wanted to talk about the Dream so they kinda forgot about timeline shenanigans. This is a big problem with these off focus expansions that are essentially a succession of subplots.

[ercarp]

@ercarp

22mage supposed leak for the spreadsheet
-Khaz Algar, far away and underground, "elemental", potentially new capital city
-New races ("Storm earth and fire"), use dwarf skeleton but look very different
-EK revamp
-New glyph system
-Shamans for all races
-Demon Hunter new spec, DPS?, "tormenting"

Thanks! I've added it to the sheet.

This one seems very interesting to me. Call me gullible, but I kind of believe it?

[Lahis]

I beg to differ. The innane list of ever biggerer and strongerer forces with nobody really in charge of anything is just dumb. It should have stopped with the Titan/Eternal One and Old God level. No First Ones, no Void Lords.

By always revealing the Even Bigger Fish, they don't need to worry about running out of fish when we are fighting the previously assumed biggest fish.


Granted that is not very good storytelling, but that ship has sunk ages ago for WoW.

[PotHockets]

Did they wrap up Nozdormu? The dungeon cutscene at the end focused on Iridikron, but back in the Cataclysm End Time, Murozond says the true end time is way worse. Shouldn't he know what that is now?

The Iridikron thing was definitely a breadcrumb or a bridge for the next expansion. I think the implication was that Nozdormu is no longer going to become Murozond because of both Eternus in the one trying to save her sister quest and then Chromie shenanigans in the mega dungeon. I got the vibe though that whatever Iridikron did to the Dragon Soul is much worse than Murozond and seemed to be his plan all along.