The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Yeah but none were dueling while I was there.
Possible waiting for a player-made dueling event to start?

Halloween event. They might be there to buy the new items or just to check the vendors. Possibly to light the fire.

[Wangming]

I think he is referencing that one interview Metzen had where he was playing the game or something and his daughters asked why does the lady on the screen wear a bikini and he didn't know what to say and that changed his perspective or something.

You also kill people you barely know cause someone told you to and cause they drop money.
I find it funny that violence, even extreme violence is okay, but even the hint of sensuality is a big no.
And this isn't even a WarCraft thing. Every franchise is like that. I mean Harry Potter sort of gets a pass cause they were supposed to be only 17 in the last movie/book but even Star Wars is more willing to show genocide and talk about murdering children than anything steamier than a kiss.

[Auxis]

It might be for the Halloween event. Turning off the fires or something like that.

Halloween event. They might be there to buy the new items or just to check the vendors. Possibly to light the fire.

True. There were no Halloween decorations while I was there, but now after leaving a dungeon the event has started. Theres a wickerman outside SW, correct?

[Hitei]

You also kill people you barely know cause someone told you to and cause they drop money.

Those two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

[Ferlion]

Have you see Alexstraza's old WoW design? It was even lewder than the HotS version. The only critique I'd give about the HotS design is that they made her horns freakin' huge. (And I don't mean that as an innuendo, I literally mean her actual dragon horns are freakishly huge.)

Ehh.

I think Alexstraza's current design is WAY more sexualized than her old one. Her old one was just a bikini, which isn't inherently sexual.
Her current one (and especially many of the angles used in videos and cinematics) is definitely there to highlight and draw attention.

[Wangming]

Those two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Is murdering people you barely know okay, but a slutmog is not?

[Makabreska]

Is murdering people you barely know okay, but a slutmog is not?

Welcome to entertainment media. This was always the case since violence became more mainstream.

[Selorian]

I think he is referencing that one interview Metzen had where he was playing the game or something and his daughters asked why does the lady on the screen wear a bikini and he didn't know what to say and that changed his perspective or something.

I know, but a lot of people don't seem to realize Metzen isn't the same guy he was 20 years ago.

[Hitei]

Is murdering people you barely know okay, but a slutmog is not?

Why are you presenting dumb false equivalencies? The context isn't even about slutmogs, which are literally more available than ever before.

One of those is an in-universe question of morality, the other is a developer design choice.

[Ersula]

Is murdering people you barely know okay, but a slutmog is not?

I got the impression people wanted slutmogs, as long as the male versions were equally slutty. They just made new versions of that bikini-esque vanilla robe.

[ercarp]

They just made new versions of that bikini-esque vanilla robe.

Do you have a link?

[Wangming]

Why are you presenting dumb false equivalencies? The context isn't even about slutmogs, which are literally more available than ever before.

One of those is an in-universe question of morality, the other is a developer design choice.

You are saying like in-universe questions of morality aren't a developer choice.

"You are right, honey. There is no reason for my character to wear a bikini. Now let me violate the Geneva convention for a stronger axe"

This makese me appreciate genuine people like Yoko Taro even more.
People asked her why combat android where high heels in NieR Automata. His response: "Cause I think it's hot"

[Hitei]

Do you have a link?

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...58060033892669

You are saying like in-universe questions of morality aren't a developer choice.

"You are right, honey. There is no reason for my character to wear a bikini. Now let me violate the Geneva convention for a stronger axe"

This makese me appreciate genuine people like Yoko Taro even more.
People asked her why combat android where high heels in NieR Automata. His response: "Cause I think it's hot"

Holy shit. How are you this bad at reading? The conversation isn't about slutmogs, which are more available now than ever before.

[Xilurm]

You are saying like in-universe questions of morality aren't a developer choice.

"You are right, honey. There is no reason for my character to wear a bikini. Now let me violate the Geneva convention for a stronger axe"

This makese me appreciate genuine people like Yoko Taro even more.
People asked her why combat android where high heels in NieR Automata. His response: "Cause I think it's hot"

He also told people who didn't like all the cosplay of Nier characters and complained about sexualization to just move on and shut up.

[Wangming]

I got the impression people wanted slutmogs, as long as the male versions were equally slutty.

FFXIV does this very welll. A leather bikini is also a leather bikini as well. I mean both genders can put on the maid girl outfit. Like...why not? If people want it, why the hell not?

[micwini]

as i said before, they're proud of their bad work lol this is another case of devs thinking they know what's better for the game when they're actually clueless

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this entire interview is incredibly tone deaf.

Who could have known that 2 wokie women can only produce incoherent drivel.
Good thing Metzen is fully back on board to tell these so called writers what they can and can't do when it comes to story.

[Wangming]

He also told people who didn't like all the cosplay of Nier characters and complained about sexualization to just move on and shut up.

Well yeah. He has a target audience and makes uncompromising games for that target audience.

[Selorian]

Violence in video games is a lot different from sexualization. When I kill a kobold or whatever, there's several layers of separation from actual violence. The part that engages you isn't the actual act of murder, it's pushing buttons and seeing numbers go up or down. As a result, the violence is pretty abstract from real life violence because it's not the focus, it's just fluff for a gameplay mechanic.

Sexualization isn't like that. The whole point of it is the same point as it always is, to get your rocks off. So the question raised by Metzen's daughter has a lot more weight because it's a lot closer to how real life sexualization can work and often flirts the line with objectification. It makes sense that something like that would hit closer to home for someone who has a daughter.

[ercarp]

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...58060033892669

Isn't this a fanmade high-res version though?

[Xilurm]

Isn't this a fanmade high-res version though?

No it's datamined, most likely to be featured in the tendie store.