The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[doledippers]

have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek

[Nightshade711]

have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek

Nothing super new.
Teriz elemental expansion ranting.
Then light vs void talk.

[matijwow]

Yeah, I just believe that a medieval fantasy game should keep certain elements to a minimum or not touch on them at all. I'm starting to believe that the Draenei concept really took this game in a direction it should have never gone, because that race introduced concepts that really warped the natural limits of the genre. Ethereals and their technology and eco-domes could be another potential problem.

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Exactly my thoughts as well. Some posters here want us to meet Elune next, and I'm wondering ytf would you want to touch on that? What's the point of meeting (or fighting) Elune? What's next? Are we going to fight the sun after we loot the moon goddess' corpse?

I think they were able to get Draenei to fit. Their technology is based on magic crystals and they act and talk like fantasy characters. Similar with gnome, goblin, and dwarf technology.

Compare that to the opening quests in Pandaria where the Alliance/Horde militaries are acting and talking like it's Call of Duty Modern Warfare.

[ercarp]

have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek

I have a spreadsheet with some of the "leaks" that have come out over the past few days, but to be fair there haven't actually been that many. Feels like the hype is somehow dying down as we get closer to BlizzCon, which is odd to say the least.

[Reive]

We fought a titan
we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power

[Wangming]

have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek

We still have the same vague ideas about what the expansion could be and every camp is convinced the others are sniffing copium.

[Ersula]

Legion Legendaries have no lore backing them up, as far as we know they are purely gameplay

I hate this kind of canon lens in particular. The game is the canon.

We fought a titan
we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power

And the villains of dragonflight are creatures that were alive before the Titans got to Azeroth. The Incarnates must have thought they had at least a chance of beating the Titans.

[Wangming]

We fought a titan
we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power

Which is why we need threats that are smarter, not stronger. Or a way to reset our power levels somehow.

[Nymrohd]

We fought a titan
we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power

Can we trust a lawyer with math though? The man let augmentation out.

[Wangming]

Smart characters...in WoW? LMAOOOO

I wish.

Onyxia was smart. And Vanessa, at least back in Cataclysm was smart, but got progressively dumber with each new appearance.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

We fought a titan
we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power

We never actually fight any of the titans we just have there Avatars according to a Dev QA.

the eternal ones likely are only as strong as an avatar not a real Titan which if we go off of Sargaras is weaker then a Guardian of tiras fall.

[PotHockets]

Which is why we need threats that are smarter, not stronger. Or a way to reset our power levels somehow.

No we dont. If you wanna have the power fantasy of slapping shit with a stick classic is right there.

[Reive]

Which is why we need threats that are smarter, not stronger. Or a way to reset our power levels somehow.

they can reset our power levels by doing what they have already done in dragonflight. they can explain that we were able to face those big threats because we were empowered by artifacts, heart of azeroth and covenants. by losing those we got automatically weaker

[Nymrohd]

they can reset our power levels by doing what they have already done in dragonflight. they can explain that we were able to face those big threats because we were empowered by artifacts, heart of azeroth and covenants. by losing those we got automatically weaker

Yes but C'thun was in classic.

[Revamp Man]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Exp..._A37J_-_Part_4

https://www.wowhead.com/item=189582/...n-exile-part-7

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Fir...xile,_Epilogue

I dont know rereading these it seems to imply that the 7th force, whatever it is, is something tangible and something at odds with even the First Ones. They mention how it as a concept seems to exist beyond most mortal comprehension but as something actively working against existence and the cosmos.

Plus there was whatever the hell nipple boy was worried is coming and I doubt it's the Void Lords since they still exist within the cosmology and that epilogue implies that whatever Zovaal was worried about is something beyond what Eternals can handle.

I dont expect any of this to mean anything I just kinda think it's interesting to consider.

It's Nothing
The seventh force is literally nothing
No void
No light
No death
No life
No cycle
Nothing

[Nymrohd]

It's Nothing
The seventh force is literally nothing
No void
No light
No death
No life
No cycle
Nothing

That is really basic mythology. At first there was Night or chaos or anything. Creation displaces nothingness and nothingness never appreciates the company.

[Reive]

Void Lords aren't arguably higher. The First Ones are the only ones that are higher, straight up. There is also the 7th power, but that is an unknown variable rn

we're never going to fight the first ones. that would be dumb as fuck lol. so far the void lords are the biggest threat

Can we trust a lawyer with math though? The man let augmentation out.

touche lol

[PotHockets]

It's Nothing
The seventh force is literally nothing
No void
No light
No death
No life
No cycle
Nothing

Void is entropy and why it's the opposite of Life. The 7th force is something tangible just we have 0 frame of reference as to what it could be other than that it exists.

[Reive]

We never actually fight any of the titans we just have there Avatars according to a Dev QA.

the eternal ones likely are only as strong as an avatar not a real Titan which if we go off of Sargaras is weaker then a Guardian of tiras fall.

the eternal ones should be the death counterpart of the titans. they should be equally strong. but yeah, i never felt they were stronger than them.

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Yes but C'thun was in classic.

so what? didn't get your point sorry

[Well Done Steak]

It's Nothing
The seventh force is literally nothing
No void
No light
No death
No life
No cycle
Nothing

Wouldnt void, ENTROPY, be "nothing"?