The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

That's a problem with DF just not having enough instanced content. We should have had two additional dungeons added to reach parity with Legion/BfA

That would definitely be nice, and I wonder if the seasonal rotation of dungeons has made a niche open up again for new dungeons.

[Wangming]

Time travel is invalid as a premise in general due to simple logic. And WoD is NOT time travel, it is alternate universe travel.

Alternate timeline travel, but whatever. Have it your way. The bottom line is, WoD wasn't a failure because we traveled to AU Draenor. It had many other factors to blame for that.

[Teriz]

Time travel is invalid as a premise in general due to simple logic. And WoD is NOT time travel, it is alternate universe travel.

It was both. AU Draenor only became AU because Garrosh changed the past.

[GhostFish]

Alternate timeline travel, but whatever. Have it your way. The bottom line is, WoD wasn't a failure because we traveled to AU Draenor. It had many other factors to blame for that.

What if Avaloren turn out to be ancient Draenor? I think that would be hilarious. All one planet all the time. Just different time periods across millions of years. Bad, but hilarious.

[Jaggler]

It was both. AU Draenor only became AU because Garrosh changed the past.

Not really, he and Kairos had to find a timeline where Garrosh wasn't born. The whole "blades of grass"-thing they kept talking about.

[Santandame]

With seasons now divided in three parts, I actually would propose the following
.X.0 patch has the new raid release. Lasts 10 weeks
.X.5 patch adds more world content. Lasts 8 weeks. It also releases a Timewalking season. During this time a Timewalking raid is current and has two modes (an LFR version and a normal version). I'd make the normal version tough enough that you actually need to do a bit of work to progress through it (enough that any guilds that gets AotC can clear it within 8 weeks). Beyond that I'd consider having that TW season affect other things (maybe TW affecting outdoor content)
Then I'd do the same with the .7 patch but with a different TW raid.
So every season would start with a new raid and you'd also get 16 weeks of TW active with two different raids.

I absolutely would love them doing a system that merges Torghast with Islands. my idea on how to do it Evergreen would be to base it on Caverns of Time. Bronze flight would send you back in time in different scenarios. 1-5 players, strong cosmetics, its own rewards progression. Mostly reusing existing assets with some additional things created for it here and there. I am sure we can come up with well over a dozen of time travel ideas we would love to see.

Beyond that for cosmetics I'd want class skins and for additional gameplay, more specs in existing classes. Honestly I feel the only class we are really missing at this point is Tinker. Everything else I could see done with class skins and/or additional specs in existing classes.

- Black Empire
- War of the Scaleborn
- War of the Ancients
- Pandaren Rebellion
- Orcs sacking Shattrath
- Gnoll Wars
- War of the Three Hammers
- Scourge marching on Silvermoon
- The Horde attacking Theramore
- Fall of Gnomeregan
- War of the Shifting Sands

Just off the top of my head.

[Raetary]

What if Avaloren turn out to be ancient Draenor? I think that would be hilarious. All one planet all the time. Just different time periods across millions of years. Bad, but hilarious.

Ah yes, Odyn sent his expeditions to Draenor... by ship.

[GhostFish]

Ah yes, Odyn sent his expeditions to Draenor... by ship.

I'm saying, what if the continents on the other side of Azeroth are the continents of ancient Draenor? I don't think that's plausible or a good idea. Just a silly thought.

[Wangming]

I'm saying, what if the continents on the other side of Azeroth are the continents of ancient Draenor? I don't think that's plausible or a good idea. Just a silly thought.

That is some wierd Shadowbringers level shit.

[Nightshade711]

It was both. AU Draenor only became AU because Garrosh changed the past.

Not true, there’s a lot that was different about that timeline even before Garrosh changed it.

One example out of many being Ner’zuhl’s wife still being alive when she died almost a decade earlier in the MU.

[Dancaris]

I'm saying, what if the continents on the other side of Azeroth are the continents of ancient Draenor? I don't think that's plausible or a good idea. Just a silly thought.

Hell, Avaloren can be place where Ner'zhul opened one of the portals. And some clan come there. Imagine we come there (after world revamp, I still in that team) - and see Goria 2.0 with ogres in golden era. And various orc clans. Asses of Ally fans will burn brighter than Sun with another addons about orcs after WoD. Mine to, even if I'm pro-Horde

[Wangming]

Hell, Avaloren can be place where Ner'zhul opened one of the portals. And some clan come there. Imagine we come there (after world revamp, I still in that team) - and see Goria 2.0 with ogres in golden era. And various orc clans. Asses of Ally fans will burn brighter than Sun with another addons about orcs after WoD. Mine to, even if I'm pro-Horde

Or Gorians somehow foresaw Draenor collapsing and with some stolen tech teleported themselves across time and space to safety. That being the other side of Azeroth in ancient times. Would explain the sophisticated technology. Imagine a city like Tempest Keep run by ogres and whatever vasal/slave races they had.

[Cheezits]

Ah yes, Odyn sent his expeditions to Draenor... by ship.

It would be hilarious if the wreckage was a SPACE ship. Avaloren could be on the damn moon with that reveal.

[Azalar]

It would be hilarious if the wreckage was a SPACE ship. Avaloren could be on the damn moon with that reveal.

I have a gut feeling that Elune, Innaria, Tyr and Avaloren are somehow related.

[Skildar]

That's a problem with DF just not having enough instanced content. We should have had two additional dungeons added to reach parity with Legion/BfA

I hope the dev team picked up on this and will deliver more dungeons over the course of the next expansion so that when we reach season 3 we're still rocking half new dungeons half restored ones.

[ercarp]

They mention "shores" in the Avaloren stuff. Don't think they would be talking about a shore in the context of a space ship.

[Wangming]

It would be hilarious if the wreckage was a SPACE ship. Avaloren could be on the damn moon with that reveal.

That's no moon....

[Nymrohd]

- Black Empire
- War of the Scaleborn
- War of the Ancients
- Pandaren Rebellion
- Orcs sacking Shattrath
- Gnoll Wars
- War of the Three Hammers
- Scourge marching on Silvermoon
- The Horde attacking Theramore
- Fall of Gnomeregan
- War of the Shifting Sands

Just off the top of my head.

Troll Wars
Troll vs Aqir wars (could easily be three separate scenarios)
Winterskorn War
Northgate Rebellion
Zandalari Invasion (of Pandaria)
War of the Satyr
War of the Spider
Liberation of Kezan

[Nathanyel]

They mention "shores" in the Avaloren stuff. Don't think they would be talking about a shore in the context of a space ship.

Considering how much naval lingo was adopted for space travel, it's actually surprising "shore" or similar terms weren't associated with landing on a different planetary body.

[Nymrohd]

I hope the dev team picked up on this and will deliver more dungeons over the course of the next expansion so that when we reach season 3 we're still rocking half new dungeons half restored ones.

And dare I say, we could start with less and build up more gradually? I wish every raid had an accompanying dungeon using similar assets like they did in the past. I think each expac should have about 10 Dungeons +1 (or 8 +2)

Like, imagine this; we start with 5 leveling dungeons, a dungeon that accompanies the raid and a Megadungeon.
Second season adds another dungeon with the raid and a second Megadungeon
Third season adds the eight dungeon.
Scrap either of the Megadungeons for two completely revamped old dungeons (full graphic update and giving them a modern storyline).