The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Azalar]

My headcanon is that both Iridikron and Xal'atath aren't actually the baddies we think. Fighting anyone who tries to claim the world soul, in their case, the Titans, might actually be the correct thing to do.

Do we even know what their exact villainous roadmap is? xD

[Nightshade711]

My headcanon is that both Iridikron and Xal'atath aren't actually the baddies we think. Fighting anyone who tries to claim the world soul, in their case, the Titans, might actually be the correct thing to do.

Do we even know what their exact villainous roadmap is? xD

To us & our goals I definitely think Xal’atath is a villain. Especially if she’s an old god after all.

We did also give her access to the Seat of the Pantheon in Legion too which she even thanks us for & that the void has been trying to do that very thing for a while.
So maybe next xpac that comes into play somehow?

[NikolaiShade]

To us & our goals I definitely think Xal’atath is a villain. Especially if she’s an old god after all.

We did also give her access to the Seat of the Pantheon in Legion too which she even thanks us for & that the void has been trying to do that very thing for a while.
So maybe next xpac that comes into play somehow?

Yeah, the whisper at the Seat is just a little bit ominous

[huth]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2642127-Leak

This is it.

That's a weird level of detail for D4 followed by a whopping 3 letters for WoW.

[Wangming]

That's a weird level of detail for D4 followed by a whopping 3 letters for WoW.

True. There is a noticeable lack of balance.

[Samin]

SoA stands for Squall of Algarian Stormrider, obviously. The main antagonist is Fyrakk's pre-evolution Fyrn.

[Azalar]

True. There is a noticeable lack of balance.

It makes sense since it's a leak for Diablo and not for WoW q_q

It's very itchy it does mention other games, though.

[Woke it Up]

From interviews a revamp isn't coming just yet. Storms of Avaloren would be the most likely given its callback to mists of pandaria, and tie in to the new area. It's unlikely khaz algar is in the old world.

For fun comparing his responses on player housing and a revamp. He was wordier for the one he was saying no to at the time. Holly was big on the world as a world so idk, I think the leaks where it's like a small revamp and then expeditions are close.

“We are definitely open to it at some point,” Hazzikostas told GameSpot. “It is a shortcoming, if you take a step back and think about World of Warcraft as an ongoing living world, if we’ve kind of painted ourselves into a corner where we have all these iconic locations but we can’t really use them because they’ve already been used.”

Player housing is topic that comes up a ton around the team. Tons of support for it across the community and within the team, it’s something many of us would love ourselves. Putting together any of the package of features for an expansion, it’s a mix of what thematically suits the expansion, what’s going to appeal to different types of players, but also what would be required to deliver that feature at the level that players expect and deserve, and what would we have to give up to make that happen… and player housing is a big one. It’s a big project, a big undertaking, and I would argue that if we were to do it, it would probably have to span multiple expansions – it’s a large enough feature just from the art.

[Sondrelk]

In the event of a world revamp, what would people like the capital cities to look like? Some visual revamps, sure. But should an attempt be made to emulate the Vanilla style of all cities being equally important? Or should we stick to one main hub, and the rest just being used for the occasional event?

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From interviews a revamp isn't coming just yet. Storms of Avaloren would be the most likely given its callback to mists of pandaria, and tie in to the new area. It's unlikely khaz algar is in the old world.

For fun comparing his responses on player housing and a revamp. He was wordier for the one he was saying no to at the time. Holly was big on the world as a world so idk, I think the leaks where it's like a small revamp and then expeditions are close.

From how he answered the World Revamp question I would almost argue it's the most likely outcome for 11.0, purely because it immediately addresses the issue.

[ercarp]

In the event of a world revamp, what would people like the capital cities to look like? Some visual revamps, sure. But should an attempt be made to emulate the Vanilla style of all cities being equally important? Or should we stick to one main hub, and the rest just being used for the occasional event?

I would love it if they made all cities equally viable in terms of transportation and services. I want to be able to hang out in Darnassus or Silvermoon without it feeling like I'm shooting myself in the foot. I hate that they made Stormwind and Orgrimmar the "main" cities.

[Wangming]

From interviews a revamp isn't coming just yet. Storms of Avaloren would be the most likely given its callback to mists of pandaria, and tie in to the new area. It's unlikely khaz algar is in the old world.

For fun comparing his responses on player housing and a revamp. He was wordier for the one he was saying no to at the time. Holly was big on the world as a world so idk, I think the leaks where it's like a small revamp and then expeditions are close.

What this dumb fuck should be saying: Yes, we are going to do proper housing cause people asking for it and it won't be forgotten next expansion cause we are going to add more content to it.
What he is saying: If we are going to add it at all, it will be a half baked disappointment that will only properly work three expansions later.

In the event of a world revamp, what would people like the capital cities to look like? Some visual revamps, sure. But should an attempt be made to emulate the Vanilla style of all cities being equally important? Or should we stick to one main hub, and the rest just being used for the occasional event?

Honestly I kinda dislike how everything is in Orgrimmar or Stormwind and we barely have a reason to visit other cities. It makes the world feel smaller.

[Woke it Up]

In the event of a world revamp, what would people like the capital cities to look like? Some visual revamps, sure. But should an attempt be made to emulate the Vanilla style of all cities being equally important? Or should we stick to one main hub, and the rest just being used for the occasional event?

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From how he answered the World Revamp question I would almost argue it's the most likely outcome for 11.0, purely because it immediately addresses the issue.

Yeah one way or other this is the ran out of space expansion. I think Avaloren gives them room to expand one way but then also slow down revealing new areas and work in the old world. I think he's being honest that that's not the focus though

I want to see gnomeragen as an actual city. With flight so you can finally make use of the space. Rogues eventually sorta got guns so anythings possible

[Dracullus]

In the event of a world revamp, what would people like the capital cities to look like? Some visual revamps, sure. But should an attempt be made to emulate the Vanilla style of all cities being equally important? Or should we stick to one main hub, and the rest just being used for the occasional event?

Cities were not equally important, leveling was just long and often quests were "deliver this message on the other side of the world, do one thing there and come back". In endgame people AFK in Orgri/Ironforge.

That's another reason why I want revamp done in two expansions. Every continent could get 2 big capitals: for Kalimdor - Orgrimmar and Amirdrasisil (or Hyjal), EK - Stormwind and finally full fleshed out Silvermoon City. Other cities, to get their moment to shine, could become major hubs for patches.

[Sondrelk]

Cities were not equally important, leveling was just long and often quests were "deliver this message on the other side of the world, do one thing there and come back". In endgame people AFK in Orgri/Ironforge.

That's another reason why I want revamp done in two expansions. Every continent could get 2 big capitals: for Kalimdor - Orgrimmar and Amirdrasisil (or Hyjal), EK - Stormwind and finally full fleshed out Silvermoon City. Other cities, to get their moment to shine, could become major hubs for patches.

Equally unimportant then. No city had more amenities than others, like how you now have the portal rooms in SW/Orgrimmar, and nothing of note in Thunder Bluff and Ironforge.

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I would love it if they made all cities equally viable in terms of transportation and services. I want to be able to hang out in Darnassus or Silvermoon without it feeling like I'm shooting myself in the foot. I hate that they made Stormwind and Orgrimmar the "main" cities.

Would be nice, though I wonder if it would have been easier to have all cities link to the main portal room. Would make it more convenient, if nothing else.

Not sure what else is needed though, that being said. I guess transmog vendors?

[Wangming]

Equally unimportant then. No city had more amenities than others, like how you now have the portal rooms in SW/Orgrimmar, and nothing of note in Thunder Bluff and Ironforge.

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Would be nice, though I wonder if it would have been easier to have all cities link to the main portal room. Would make it more convenient, if nothing else.

Not sure what else is needed though, that being said. I guess transmog vendors?

If we still had class quests, that could be a way- Like, you wouldn't go to Ironforge to train as a druid or Darnassus for paladin.

[Woke it Up]

Equally unimportant then. No city had more amenities than others, like how you now have the portal rooms in SW/Orgrimmar, and nothing of note in Thunder Bluff and Ironforge.

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Would be nice, though I wonder if it would have been easier to have all cities link to the main portal room. Would make it more convenient, if nothing else.

Not sure what else is needed though, that being said. I guess transmog vendors?

Maybe if you could set your home city, and that replaces the portals in major hubs, half ass portal rooms and you're done

[Woggmer]

If for some silly reason they do bring Yrel in I think it’ll be a MU variant.

Or would at least be an ally. The light itself isn’t hostile towards us when there’s a big threat present. (Death, Legion, Void, etc)
At most they’d ally with the 7th force due to N’zoth’s quote of “The light has made a bargain with the enemy of all”
(Unless for some reason Elune is the “enemy of all” to the void? I mean she is meddling with every cosmic force after all.)

I don't think so, if there was an MU Yrel, we would've discovered her...

The other possibility that AU Yrel could come to our timeline is if she managed to locate and find the missing Ata'mal Crystal Shards in Draenor and used their power to summon another trans-dimensional ship like the Genedar to travel to Azeroth... and considering that AU Velen passed his mark to her, she may be able to use the Ata'mal crystals similar to Velen.

That's just one theory.


edit: While I was looking into the lore about those trans-dimensional ships. I found this.

Dimensional ships (or trans-dimensional ships) are vessels created and operated by the naaru that can travel between worlds and dimensions, traversing the Twisting Nether just as normal ships traverse the air and sea, and warp time itself.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Dimensional_ship

[Wangming]

I don't think so, if there was an MU Yrel, we would've discovered her...

Didn't she die in the original timeline? Or was that removed during beta like her blood relation to Maraad?

[Nymrohd]

In the event of a world revamp, what would people like the capital cities to look like? Some visual revamps, sure. But should an attempt be made to emulate the Vanilla style of all cities being equally important? Or should we stick to one main hub, and the rest just being used for the occasional event?

Imo all capitals should have equal access to every feature. Then if you do a revamp expac, move the main quests of each season to a different capital so we have reason to move between them.

The thing with the Light vs Void story is, where do you place it? I know I have my idea about AU Draenor effectively folding into MU Outland and creating a new continent there but at the same time, another invasion through the Dark Portal? That story has already been done twice already and that's just in WoW. And the idea with Void and K'aresh could work I guess but imo would be better as a final patch like Argus was which leaves the question of where the rest of the expac is. Draenor/Outland merge and then finish on K'aresh?

[ercarp]

I was trying to think of solutions to the SoA acronym that don't involve Azeroth or Avaloren, and I thought of Storms of Awakening. In essence, it would be about Azeroth finally "waking up" and the process of her finally getting up from bed causing storms all over Azeroth.

The storms would also cause the planet to crack in some parts, revealing various underground zones including Khaz Algar. Thoughts?