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    Quote Originally Posted by matijwow View Post
    What if their design was an attempt to add a dragon race that looked like a snake race to appease the Sethrak fanatics?
    Then it was quite the backflipping decision because Dracthyr are neither.

    An expansion concept based on K'aresh
    #TeamK'aresh #TeamWorldRevamp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    Power scaling discussions in a setting where power is chiefly determined by mechanical needs are rarely productive.
    True. I mean every single xpac we go from fighting some big bad (titans, N’zoth, Zovaal, etc) but go right back into whacking minor mobs & doing trivial chores until the raids.

    Hell we just went from fighting Zovaal to fighting some elemental dragons. And we’ve been killing both elementals AND dragons since Vanilla.
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    Chen isn't a Monk
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    Uh Demon Hunters literally had an ability called Spellbreaker.

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    have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek

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    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek
    Nothing super new.
    Teriz elemental expansion ranting.
    Then light vs void talk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Chen isn't a Monk
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    Uh Demon Hunters literally had an ability called Spellbreaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yeah, I just believe that a medieval fantasy game should keep certain elements to a minimum or not touch on them at all. I'm starting to believe that the Draenei concept really took this game in a direction it should have never gone, because that race introduced concepts that really warped the natural limits of the genre. Ethereals and their technology and eco-domes could be another potential problem.

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    Exactly my thoughts as well. Some posters here want us to meet Elune next, and I'm wondering ytf would you want to touch on that? What's the point of meeting (or fighting) Elune? What's next? Are we going to fight the sun after we loot the moon goddess' corpse?
    I think they were able to get Draenei to fit. Their technology is based on magic crystals and they act and talk like fantasy characters. Similar with gnome, goblin, and dwarf technology.

    Compare that to the opening quests in Pandaria where the Alliance/Horde militaries are acting and talking like it's Call of Duty Modern Warfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek
    I have a spreadsheet with some of the "leaks" that have come out over the past few days, but to be fair there haven't actually been that many. Feels like the hype is somehow dying down as we get closer to BlizzCon, which is odd to say the least.

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    We fought a titan
    we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

    beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power

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    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    have i missed anything in the last few days? need a tldr not tryna read thru 80 pages kek
    We still have the same vague ideas about what the expansion could be and every camp is convinced the others are sniffing copium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selorian View Post
    Legion Legendaries have no lore backing them up, as far as we know they are purely gameplay
    I hate this kind of canon lens in particular. The game is the canon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    We fought a titan
    we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

    beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power
    And the villains of dragonflight are creatures that were alive before the Titans got to Azeroth. The Incarnates must have thought they had at least a chance of beating the Titans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    We fought a titan
    we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

    beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power
    Which is why we need threats that are smarter, not stronger. Or a way to reset our power levels somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    We fought a titan
    we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

    beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power
    Can we trust a lawyer with math though? The man let augmentation out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post

    Smart characters...in WoW? LMAOOOO

    I wish.
    Onyxia was smart. And Vanessa, at least back in Cataclysm was smart, but got progressively dumber with each new appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    We fought a titan
    we fought 2 eternal ones who are supposed to be at least as strong as the titans with the jailer being "titan++" according to ion

    beyond that level there are only the void lords (arguably) and the first ones. there is no bigger threat than those in terms of power
    We never actually fight any of the titans we just have there Avatars according to a Dev QA.

    the eternal ones likely are only as strong as an avatar not a real Titan which if we go off of Sargaras is weaker then a Guardian of tiras fall.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Which is why we need threats that are smarter, not stronger. Or a way to reset our power levels somehow.
    No we dont. If you wanna have the power fantasy of slapping shit with a stick classic is right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Which is why we need threats that are smarter, not stronger. Or a way to reset our power levels somehow.
    they can reset our power levels by doing what they have already done in dragonflight. they can explain that we were able to face those big threats because we were empowered by artifacts, heart of azeroth and covenants. by losing those we got automatically weaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    they can reset our power levels by doing what they have already done in dragonflight. they can explain that we were able to face those big threats because we were empowered by artifacts, heart of azeroth and covenants. by losing those we got automatically weaker
    Yes but C'thun was in classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotHockets View Post
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Exp..._A37J_-_Part_4

    https://www.wowhead.com/item=189582/...n-exile-part-7

    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Fir...xile,_Epilogue

    I dont know rereading these it seems to imply that the 7th force, whatever it is, is something tangible and something at odds with even the First Ones. They mention how it as a concept seems to exist beyond most mortal comprehension but as something actively working against existence and the cosmos.

    Plus there was whatever the hell nipple boy was worried is coming and I doubt it's the Void Lords since they still exist within the cosmology and that epilogue implies that whatever Zovaal was worried about is something beyond what Eternals can handle.

    I dont expect any of this to mean anything I just kinda think it's interesting to consider.
    It's Nothing
    The seventh force is literally nothing
    No void
    No light
    No death
    No life
    No cycle
    Nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    It's Nothing
    The seventh force is literally nothing
    No void
    No light
    No death
    No life
    No cycle
    Nothing
    That is really basic mythology. At first there was Night or chaos or anything. Creation displaces nothingness and nothingness never appreciates the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Void Lords aren't arguably higher. The First Ones are the only ones that are higher, straight up. There is also the 7th power, but that is an unknown variable rn
    we're never going to fight the first ones. that would be dumb as fuck lol. so far the void lords are the biggest threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Can we trust a lawyer with math though? The man let augmentation out.
    touche lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    It's Nothing
    The seventh force is literally nothing
    No void
    No light
    No death
    No life
    No cycle
    Nothing
    Void is entropy and why it's the opposite of Life. The 7th force is something tangible just we have 0 frame of reference as to what it could be other than that it exists.

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