The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Kiivar86]

As PotHockets posted, that SoA thing looks like a fake one in the end, I think.

[matijwow]

If we're thinking about Light vs. Void and Yrel again, there are other plot threads they could pick up from WoD.

There's Ephial who turned Admiral Taylor's garrison undead for some unknown master.

Also, in Mythic Highmaul, AU Cho'gall uses a bunch of void magic and dies saying "He comes... (You can never escape...)."

Very vague and generic but if the Naaru can travel to Outland/Draenor, why can't a void Naaru? Or a void lord like Dimensius?

[milkmustache]

Stormbreaker

fr, its probably the leaker named @22mage22

Stormbreaker was confirmed fake

[Reive]

The guy who accurately leaked Diablo 4 stuff from a bugged datamine posted one "leak" about WoW and that's that it's a revamp expansion whose title is abbreviated SoA.

do you have the link of the leak?

[matijwow]

do you have the link of the leak?

New Expansion: Nahantu

This vast land, similar in size to the other five zones, is teeming with untamed wilderness and ancient secrets waiting to be discovered.

Nahantu is a land of contrasts, from the Restless Canopy’s verdant foliage to the barren expanse of the Teganze Plateau. It is home to the Field of Giants, a place of lingering hatred, and the dark depths of the Kurast Sewers. Each location presents unique challenges and opportunities for the Spiritborn, whose connection with nature will be tested like never before.

The zone comes with new quests that will take players on a journey through Nahantu’s many dungeons. From the eerie Forge of Malice and Sleepless Hollow to the haunting Forgotten Remains and Ruined Wild, each dungeon holds dangers and treasures in equal measure.

The campaign will lead players through the Durance of Hate, to the Gates of the Necropolis, into the ethereal Spirit Realm, and finally to the Five Hills - the tomb of Akarat. Each step of this journey will reveal more about Nahantu’s history and its connection to the Spiritborn.

The pinnacle of Nahantu’s challenges is a new raid centered around Khazra. With five wings to conquer, this raid will push even the most seasoned adventurers to their limits.

New class: SpiritBorn - Uses glaives.

The release of the Spiritborn class opens up a whole new way to experience Diablo 4. Their unique abilities and playstyle offer fresh strategies for tackling Nahantu’s challenges. Whether you’re navigating through the Restless Canopy or battling in the depths of Kurast Sewers, playing as a Spiritborn in Nahantu promises an adventure like no other.

The Spiritborn, a class deeply rooted in the elements of nature and the spiritual realm. They are the children of the wild, born from the spirit of the plains, sky, soil, and forest. Their souls are intertwined with the world around them, drawing strength from the very essence of life and nature.

Their weapon of choice is the glaive, a symbol of their connection to both the physical and spiritual realms. The glaive is more than just a weapon to a Spiritborn; it is an extension of their spirit, a conduit through which they channel their power.

The Spiritborn’s power comes from two resources: Vigor and Allegiance. Vigor represents their physical vitality and endurance, gained from their bond with the earth and sky. It fuels their physical abilities and allows them to perform feats of agility and strength beyond normal capabilities.

Allegiance, on the other hand, represents their spiritual connection to nature and its creatures. It is through Allegiance that they can call upon the spirits of nature for aid, summoning ethereal allies or invoking powerful elemental spells.

The Spiritborn are not merely fighters; they are guardians of balance. They stand on the boundary between the physical world and the spiritual realm, ensuring harmony between the two. Their mission is not just to defeat their enemies but to preserve the natural order of things.

In battle, a Spiritborn is a sight to behold. They move with the grace of the wind, their glaives dancing like leaves in a storm. Their attacks are fluid and relentless, like a river carving its path through stone. And when they call upon their spiritual powers, the air around them crackles with raw elemental energy.

Whether you’re drawn to their unique blend of physical prowess and spiritual power or their noble mission to preserve balance in the world, playing as a Spiritborn offers a truly unique experience in Sanctuary.

Mercenaries / Followers introduced (Berserker Crone, Bounty Hunter, Cursed Child, Maiden, Mongrel, Scholar, Shield Bearer)

Season 3: Dreamscape

Stash size increase to 500

Live Quests

Five hills - tomb of akarat is a raid about Khazra, has 5 wings.

Next WoW expansion is old world revamp title is SoA.

Enjoy see you at blizzcon!

https://www.aroged.com/2023/10/19/bl...-a-riding-cat/

[Reive]

https://www.aroged.com/2023/10/19/bl...-a-riding-cat/

thanks

/10chars

[milkmustache]

please reread my message

Oops, my fault. Can confirm that Stormbreaker is not from 22mage22. Wink wink.

[PotHockets]

The guy who accurately leaked Diablo 4 stuff from a bugged datamine posted one "leak" about WoW and that's that it's a revamp expansion whose title is abbreviated SoA.

Just wanna point out that the D4 Datamine does not appear anywhere else on any search engine except for that one website that personally I've never heard of before. It's not anywhere in any Diablo communities, its not on any leak communities, it appears exclusively on that website.

The same day the leak was posted here it was also posted by someone on a private server site verbatim. That poster was not new and their posting history indicates no potential connection to Blizz or a Blizz employee and does contain gold buying posts and other things a Blizz employee is very unlikely to partake in.

It could be legit but super heavy grain of salt on that one.

[D4NNYB0Y]

The guy who accurately leaked Diablo 4 stuff from a bugged datamine posted one "leak" about WoW and that's that it's a revamp expansion whose title is abbreviated SoA.

I haven't seen anything proving that D4 datamine leak is true. The news article was published 2 days after the leak was posted on the Diablo forums here. Aroged's source is a Russian YouTuber who claims he received the info from a hacking group called D4 Reflection. I haven't seen any other gaming news sites or streamers pick up this story or corroborate the authenticity of the leak.

Quoting myself from that thread:

I'm curious how credible the source of that article is. I keep rereading this leak, and I am 100% convinced it's fake.

First off, it very much reads like it was generated by ChatGPT and then edited. ChatGPT loves to form meaningless fluff sentences like this:

"Each location presents unique challenges and opportunities for the Spiritborn, whose connection with nature will be tested like never before."

Kurast Sewers being in Nahantu also doesn't make sense. Kurast is the former capital of Kehjistan which is an existing zone in the game. Nahantu doesn't exist in the current lore, and there's no way it can appear out of nowhere in the map of Sanctuary and be comparable in size to the 5 playable zones in Diablo IV. According to the leak, it would have to be ~5 times the size of Khejistan while being inside the borders of Khejistan. Also, does anyone really want to go back to Kurast Sewers?

I can't see there being a Khazra raid. They're minor villains in the franchise. They're not a major faction like Beastmen from Warhammer Fantasy. They would be an extremely odd choice as the antagonists for the game's first expansion.

Spiritborn seems to overlap heavily with Druid themes. I have no idea why they would add a class like this when there are major class archetypes/fan favorites like Paladin and Amazon still missing from the roster. There is definitely design overlap between the Rogue and Amazon, but there is nothing reminiscent of a Paladin in-game. The only class that currently uses shields is the Necromancer, and they just use them as a stat stick. Necromancers also currently hold the role of preserving balance in the Diablo universe.

Seems very questionable to me. Especially with how rough the past few months have been. I can't see this new class receiving an overwhelmingly positive reaction at Blizzcon. I could see a lot more excitement if a previous class or archetype was announced.

That is also an extremely long-winded class description that doesn't give that much tangible information on how the class actually plays. This is not how Blizzard or game designers generally write class descriptions. They're short and sweet and easily digestible so players can quickly compare classes at a glance and make a decision.

This is the Druid class description from the official site for comparison:

"The Druid is a savage shapeshifter, fluidly transforming between the forms of a towering bear or a vicious werewolf to fight alongside the creatures of the wild. He also commands the power of earth, wind, and storm, unleashing nature’s wrath to devastating effect."

Diablo IV classes are also not defined or restricted by specific weapon types in this sort of overt manner.

I don't see anything in this leak that is so exciting/mind-blowing that it would make folks who quickly abandoned the game after release give it a second chance, but that's just my subjective opinion. This just seems like more of the same to me.

[matijwow]

Just wanna point out that the D4 Datamine does not appear anywhere else on any search engine except for that one website that personally I've never heard of before. It's not anywhere in any Diablo communities, its not on any leak communities, it appears exclusively on that website.

The same day the leak was posted here it was also posted by someone on a private server site verbatim. That poster was not new and their posting history indicates no potential connection to Blizz or a Blizz employee and does contain gold buying posts and other things a Blizz employee is very unlikely to partake in.

It could be legit but super heavy grain of salt on that one.

It does look like one of those AI bot posting websites.

[ercarp]

Just wanna point out that the D4 Datamine does not appear anywhere else on any search engine except for that one website that personally I've never heard of before. It's not anywhere in any Diablo communities, its not on any leak communities, it appears exclusively on that website.

The article cites the source and if you follow it you can find the video where the guy looks at the datamined files on YouTube.

It looks fairly convincing to me but it wouldn't be impossible to fake. Just seems like it would be a lot of work.

[PotHockets]

The article cites the source and if you follow it you can find the video where the guy looks at the datamined files on YouTube.

It looks fairly convincing to me but it wouldn't be impossible to fake. Just seems like it would be a lot of work.

Ah I must've missed that part on the site. It was an Adpocalpyse so if there was a YT video on there it probably blended in with the ads to me Im gonna give it another look.

[MCMLXXXII]

Shadow over Azeroth, as a wink to Lovecraft.
Unlikely though, since we just had Shadowlands and very few of us want to be remembered to that.

[Woggmer]

If we're thinking about Light vs. Void and Yrel again, there are other plot threads they could pick up from WoD.

There's Ephial who turned Admiral Taylor's garrison undead for some unknown master.

Also, in Mythic Highmaul, AU Cho'gall uses a bunch of void magic and dies saying "He comes... (You can never escape...)."

Very vague and generic but if the Naaru can travel to Outland/Draenor, why can't a void Naaru? Or a void lord like Dimensius?

I don't think they'll pick up those plot threads again, they shifted WoD's direction to something else entirely to focus on the Legion coming.

Though if there is any consolation... in TBC, there were a bunch of Arakkoa in Shadowmoon Valley that did attempt to summon an Old God into Outland until we (the player) put a stop to it.

Though I honestly can't see a reason for us to go back to Draenor again since the Maghar took some sentient creatures with them when they shifted to our timeline. The only ones that didn't make it or rather we don't know what happened to them are the Arakkoa. Who were probably ascended thanks to the Naaru and Yrel.

[Woke it Up]

Shadow over Azeroth, as a wink to Lovecraft.
Unlikely though, since we just had Shadowlands and very few of us want to be remembered to that.

If they're doing a .3 patch that's without a new tier but is a named patch?

Shadows usually come before the storm.

Thunder only happens when it's raining.

[matijwow]

The article cites the source and if you follow it you can find the video where the guy looks at the datamined files on YouTube.

It looks fairly convincing to me but it wouldn't be impossible to fake. Just seems like it would be a lot of work.

Here's the Youtube video. /watch?v=ROeOmAJAQBE
You can use auto translate on the captions. It was uploaded the same day as the mmochamp post. There's nothing about the Diablo files that would tell you the WoW expansion name, so maybe he just took the info from this video about Diablo and tacked on a fake one sentence WoW leak at the end.

[Dragon ANX]

Looking at the leak Sheet we have this https://imgur.com/a/zusZOIQ the "Secrets of Azeroth" leak.
Credits to Ercarp
I remember that there was another one called "Shadows of Azeroth", but i could not find the link.

[D4NNYB0Y]

Here's the source video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROeOmAJAQBE

It's in Russian, but you can turn on CCs and translate it to English. He shows a text document that mentions Kurast and keywords in the leak. There's no way of proving the veracity of the data unless he releases it publically. He published the video the same day it leaked here. I'm very skeptical personally. Especially since this has been around for days and no credible news outlets have picked up on it.

[vintage79]

Shadow over Azeroth, as a wink to Lovecraft.
Unlikely though, since we just had Shadowlands and very few of us want to be remembered to that.

shadow - probaly smth to do with the void ;'p

but i liked

Secrets of Azeroth / damn

[PotHockets]

Here's the source video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROeOmAJAQBE

It's in Russian but you can turn on CCs and translate it to English. He shows a text document that mentions Kurast and keywords in the leak. There's no way of proving the veracity of the data unless he releases it publically. He could be the source of the leak himself. I'm very skeptical personally. Especially since this has been around for days and no credible news outlets have picked up on it.

Not to mention there is nothing in there that would indicate anything to do with WoW. So if we take the story of a Russian PServer group datamining it because Blizz goofed on access keys at face value that still means nothing for WoW so the SoA and revamp thing would just be pulled out of the posters ass.