The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Marlamin]

The article cites the source and if you follow it you can find the video where the guy looks at the datamined files on YouTube.

It looks fairly convincing to me but it wouldn't be impossible to fake. Just seems like it would be a lot of work.

I haven't looked at the data itself, however here's some facts surrounding the whole D4 expansion thing:

On October 2 Blizzard pushed the expansion to the encrypted fenrisdev endpoint. The key to access it was still available from a previous closed D4 preview and Blizzard forgot to regenerate it. People got to work on mining it (e.g. Stiven's "I can see what others cannot" tweet), but the files themselves are encrypted by various things too so it didn't "fully" leak, skip forward a bit and word leaks out, a YouTube video gets made and Blizzard purges the CDN on the 17th and rerolls the encryption keys (Stiven also tweeted out an annoyed tweet at this happening ).

So up to that is real at least, I can't comment on the rest.

[Ferlion]

I haven't looked at the data itself, however here's some facts surrounding the whole D4 expansion thing:

On October 2 Blizzard pushed the expansion to the encrypted fenrisdev endpoint. The key to access it was still available from a previous closed D4 preview and Blizzard forgot to regenerate it. People got to work on mining it (e.g. Stiven's "I can see what others cannot" tweet), but the files themselves are encrypted by various things too so it didn't "fully" leak, skip forward a bit and word leaks out, a YouTube video gets made and Blizzard purges the CDN on the 17th and rerolls the encryption keys (Stiven also tweeted out an annoyed tweet at this happening ).

So up to that is real at least, I can't comment on the rest.

So, we don't know if what was said is real or not.

[PotHockets]

So, we don't know if what was said is real or not.

So then SoA means Schrodinger's of Azeroth

[Marlamin]

So, we don't know if what was said is real or not.

The metadata that did leak could very plausibly be what said YouTuber is looking at in his video. If it isn't, that is a lot of work to come up with in that short amount of time, especially considering some things did actually leak.

[Imotbh]

I haven’t seen anything pointing to them being brawler’s guild.
Last I saw was the map they’re tied to wasn’t in the database. If it was brawler’s guild why would they be tied to a brand new map and not the tram or brawlgar?

That's what people on this very forum speculated because of the variety of NPCs. I don't think there's much more about it for now but I don't remember every detail that was said on the topic.

[Catastrophy349]

Looking at the leak Sheet we have this https://imgur.com/a/zusZOIQ the "Secrets of Azeroth" leak.
Credits to Ercarp
I remember that there was another one called "Shadows of Azeroth", but i could not find the link.

Legitimacy aside, this sounds exactly like what the "revamp crowd" wants, yes?

[D4NNYB0Y]

I haven't looked at the data itself, however here's some facts surrounding the whole D4 expansion thing:

On October 2 Blizzard pushed the expansion to the encrypted fenrisdev endpoint. The key to access it was still available from a previous closed D4 preview and Blizzard forgot to regenerate it. People got to work on mining it (e.g. Stiven's "I can see what others cannot" tweet), but the files themselves are encrypted by various things too so it didn't "fully" leak, skip forward a bit and word leaks out, a YouTube video gets made and Blizzard purges the CDN on the 17th and rerolls the encryption keys (Stiven also tweeted out an annoyed tweet at this happening ).

So up to that is real at least, I can't comment on the rest.

That would sync up with the D4 leak being posted here on the 17th. It looks like D4 reflection is a private server that is currently in beta being developed by a hacker group. @Marlamin Do you think they could realistically crack Blizzard's encryption?

[Reive]

Legitimacy aside, this sounds exactly like what the "revamp crowd" wants, yes?

still no interesting features. it's more dungeons, renown and raids

[PotHockets]

The metadata that did leak could very plausibly be what said YouTuber is looking at in his video. If it isn't, that is a lot of work to come up with in that short amount of time, especially considering some things did actually leak.

I don't know how familiar you are with how D4 filea are arranged but is that something that could be in release D4 as a file that someone could go into and just add some lines here or there relatively quick?

[Nightshade711]

That's what people on this very forum speculated because of the variety of NPCs. I don't think there's much more about it for now but I don't remember every detail that was said on the topic.

Probably because they’re focused too much on the (likely placeholder) models.

I don’t see anything tying those encounters/NPCs to the brawler’s guild, as I don’t see any brawler’s guild NPCs in the DungeonEncounter.db

[PotHockets]

That would sync up with the D4 leak being posted here on the 17th. It looks like D4 reflection is a private server that is currently in beta being developed by a hacker group. @Marlamin Do you think they could realistically crack Blizzard's encryption?

Even by their own admission they didn't actually have to crack it again they supposedly just used the original D4 alpha keys to do it. So that would definitely save a ton of time.

[Catastrophy349]

still no interesting features. it's more dungeons, renown and raids

Yeah, Blizzard can't win here, can they? The WoW community will NEVER be happy with anything they announce.

[Marlamin]

That would sync up with the D4 leak being posted here on the 17th. It looks like D4 reflection is a private server that is currently in beta being developed by a hacker group. @Marlamin Do you think they could realistically crack Blizzard's encryption?

Nobody really cracked anything, the key was available to a select few a few years ago and hasn't been regenerated since. The encrypted expansion data that came with the release will likely stay encrypted unless someone also had a license to log onto a server for the expansion with, which would have given them the other (new) keys as well, which I doubt would be up/public.

I don't know how familiar you are with how D4 filea are arranged but is that something that could be in release D4 as a file that someone could go into and just add some lines here or there relatively quick?

No clue, you'd have to ask someone who cares about D4 datamining, I only commented on the stuff that was generic enough (encryption/CDN stuff) so I know about it from the WoW side of things.

[Reive]

Yeah, Blizzard can't win here, can they? The WoW community will NEVER be happy with anything they announce.

they can't win with me ahah i just want new features

[Baraden]

I wish it would be Rokhan and he gets his custom model that looks like him from Warcraft 3

Rokhan is the same VA as Bayek from Assassin's Creed; genuinely one of the most distinctive voices in the industry - plus like you said, Rokhan has been in the universe for years, I'd love to see some more development for him

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Looking at the leak Sheet we have this https://imgur.com/a/zusZOIQ the "Secrets of Azeroth" leak.
Credits to Ercarp
I remember that there was another one called "Shadows of Azeroth", but i could not find the link.

God I hope this is it

[Chickat]

I certainly expect quite a few of the current Classic players to step out or go back to Era or PServers but I just meant that I suspect most of them will be replaced by the people that don't care about Vanilla - Wrath and are just waiting for the Cata/MoP/Not(WoD) You/Legion cycle to jump in.

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They need to leave them hard. Personally up until M+ existed no era for dungeons hit as good as the launch heroics did until they did that thing where they listen to out of game feedback instead of the people actually playing. If they're in there nerfed then it would remove a large chunk of the nostalgia for the Cata enjoyers.

Imo leave them hard until Firelands and then nerf base heroics while adding harder Titanrune dungeons.

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Classic WoD has the benefit of being able to make it shorter. Just announce it, but also state it's only going to last a single year before you release Classic Legion.

We are only 5 years away from Legion again.

My mind may change, but without heavy changes, Legion is probably the last classic xpac im interested in.

Although I was flying around Zuldazar yesterday after finally picking up my free Pterodax mount and it was nice to be back. BFA was very atmospheric.

[Marlamin]

@Marlamin
Have there been any updates to these entries (or the associated maps) recently?

No, that MapID (1963) is also (very) old, being made somewhere during BfA development so either it's someone messing around with something old, something that has been in the works for a long time or some reuse of an old MapID. The map (dungeon really) has 4 difficulties, Normal (available from level 10-60), Heroic/Mythic (level 50) and M+ at level 70. Notable is that the M+ content tuning ID is shared with DF dungeons from Uldaman through Halls of Infusion, so this might be something that potentially comes out during DF still if it isn't some abandoned dev experiment that made its way into the files, which happens, no way to tell if it's really 'something'.

[Chickat]

Three different versions of WoW running at the same time is kind of crazy and would just split and shit up the community's already dwindling numbers even further.

Theres already 3. 4 if you count hardcore.

It could potentially be 5 or 6 if classic+ is a thing which is crazy.

[Nightshade711]

No, that MapID (1963) is also (very) old, being made somewhere during BfA development so either it's someone messing around with something old, something that has been in the works for a long time or some reuse of an old MapID. The map (dungeon really) has 4 difficulties, Normal (available from level 10-60), Heroic/Mythic (level 50) and M+ at level 70. Notable is that the M+ content tuning ID is shared with DF dungeons from Uldaman through Halls of Infusion, so this might be something that potentially comes out during DF still if it isn't some abandoned dev experiment that made its way into the files, which happens, no way to tell if it's really 'something'.

That is interesting. Wonder why Wowhead thought the map wasn’t added in the database, then.

[Cheezits]

What did I miss? SOA is legit?