The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[D4NNYB0Y]

I went back and watched the source video for the D4 leak again and slowed it down. I think the data is probably real. It's logical that Kurast and Mephisto would be next, and the Church of the Light was founded in Kurast. Possible segue to introducing a new holy class. There's also empty space on the map for Kurast.

I think the leak is definitely fake. The video and the leak came out the same day. I thnk the poster watched the video and wrote the leak using ChatGPT and keywords from the video. I think they added the line about WoW to draw in a larger audience.

There's no mention in the data or video of Nahantu, glaives, or half of what's detailed in the leak. The only data that mentions the Spirtborn class involves wings and flying animations and something about armor thorns. They could be angelic in origin, and thorns damage was a major Paladin/Crusader mechanic for certain builds in D2 and D3.

There are also very few lines regarding the Spiritborn class compared to all the other classes so it may be a placeholder name.

[Woggmer]

I would agree with you on this if it were not for one thing:

They are already revamping old dungeons. I.e. Vortex Pinn & Now upcoming throne of tides.

That might work for the Cata dungeons, but the original classic dungeons are a whole other story (Blackrock Depths, Zul'Farrak, Wailing Caverns, Stratholme, Dire Maul, Maraudon)

[Demonly]

That might work for the Cata dungeons, but the original classic dungeons are a whole other story (Blackrock Depths, Zul'Farrak, Wailing Caverns, Stratholme, Dire Maul, Maraudon)

Wailing Caverns deserves to be a revamped raid.

#ChangeMyMind

[flan1337]

I am confused - we have the one leak "secrets of azeroth" but we dont have a leak for shadows of azeroth no?

[Cheezits]

I am confused - we have the one leak "secrets of azeroth" but we dont have a leak for shadows of azeroth no?

I think there were a few.

[Villager720]

Using Azeroth in the tile of another expansion only 3 removed from BfA feels odd to me.

[PotHockets]

That might work for the Cata dungeons, but the original classic dungeons are a whole other story (Blackrock Depths, Zul'Farrak, Wailing Caverns, Stratholme, Dire Maul, Maraudon)

All of those are prime for a rework and if we get a revamp would likely be among the roster of new dungeons.

Well minus BRD. I genuinely don't see them ever touching it, it's just too iconic in it's current form in a way no other classic dungeon is.

[Cheezits]

Using Azeroth in the tile of another expansion only 3 removed from BfA feels odd to me.

6 years is a long time in consumer memories, plus it makes sense for a revampy kind of thing.

There was a lot of negativity involved with BFA but a lot of intrigue as well. Also... it could be the first expansion that REALLY follows up on the worldly consequences of BFA, so it could be intentional.

[Palapop]

What's the lower left about? Chromie Time?

it HURTS me seeing how out of touch people are with BGs

Blizzard should do A LOT more to make (rated AND non-rated) Battlegrounds (and pvp overall) WAAAAAAAAAAY MORE REWARDING!

[Xilurm]

it HURTS me seeing how out of touch people are with BGs

Blizzard should do A LOT more to make (rated AND non-rated) Battlegrounds (and pvp overall) WAAAAAAAAAAY MORE REWARDING!

I'm not really someone who enjoys PvP in general, so even if they give better rewards it would still feel like a chore.

[Hitei]

I am confused - we have the one leak "secrets of azeroth" but we dont have a leak for shadows of azeroth no?

I dunno why Shadows of Azeroth is getting popular again. It's ancient and very explicitly tied to the Void Elves.

[Gloriandus]

How 'bout Secrets of the Storm

[matijwow]

If we do get a revamp, I wonder if that means Uldaz will be under Bael Modan in the Barrens. That's the spot of a Titan ruin with something buried underneath that we know pretty much nothing about.

[D4NNYB0Y]

Don't think they would name an expansion Shadows of Azeroth when we just had Shadowlands.

[Cheezits]

If we do get a revamp, I wonder if that means Uldaz will be under Bael Modan in the Barrens. That's the spot of a Titan ruin with something buried underneath that we know pretty much nothing about.

Looking up that whole questline, I think it's very weird how it's about a "Tear of the Moons" artifact that turns Dwarves into Troggs.

A) Why would an Elune-esque artifact be able to do that
B) It sounds like something they would absolutely revisit if they wanted to tie Dwarves to Elune in some way

[Murlocos]

Shadows of Azeroth will clearly be a director's cut expansion of BfA and SL combined.

[Izalla]

Don't think they would name an expansion Shadows of Azeroth when we just had Shadowlands.

It does seem unlikely.

[Woke it Up]

It does seem unlikely.

I think Shadowz of Azeroth instead is much more distinct as it has one less A and is objectively cooler

[Myrrh]

I dunno why Shadows of Azeroth is getting popular again. It's ancient and very explicitly tied to the Void Elves.

Leak drought, plus two unreliable things that could conceivably work together making people go 'whoa this must be it!!1' because they're desperate for something to show up.

Honestly after having another squiz at ercarp's list, anything with a grain of believability has already been debunked from other avenues such as the HS expansion. I'm not sure the real deal is out there, yet.

[huth]

I think Shadowz of Azeroth instead is much more distinct as it has one less A and is objectively cooler

2 is 1 smaller than 2?