The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Pheraz]

Going to start getting my night before blizzcon post ready…

'Twas the night before BlizzCon, no secrets took flight,
No WoW leaks in sight, shrouded in night.
Gamers in silence, with bated breath keen,
For the grand revelation, yet to be seen.

In Azeroth's realm, where heroes take flight,
The expansion awaited, out of sight.
No spoilers escaped, no hints to be gleaned,
In the night before BlizzCon, the mystery deepened.

Impressive, very nice!

I still wonder how many of the leak larpers are one known poster in here

[Palapop]

go back and quest through/interact with everything.... literally everything pre-Mist of Pandaria.


Even CATA is what WARCRAFT is about. Brought most beautiful landmass. Has some really, REALLY dark fantasy in it (Vashjir, Deepholm, Twilight Highlands....)

Compare Grim Batol to Stormstout (w/e spelling) Brewery dungeons. And you will see why MoP (and potentially 6.0) sux and has nothing to do with WARCRAFT FRANCHISE (not saying that we solely need WARCRAFT.... but WARCRAFT-TASTE)

So.... you take just 1 dungeon from MOP.... and then theres HOF, Dread Wastes, ToT, SoO where Garrosh literally opens chests with still-beating heart.

Then genocide, torture, killing POWs.... yeah... mop was laugh and giggle. For 1 dungeon and 1 zone.

MoP has LOTS to do with WARCRAFT. LOOOOOOTS! Everything about it is warcraft related AND/OR has "warcraft" vibe in it.

You failed miserably in trying to "make a point".

also, you forgot to mention Lost City of Tol Vir dungeon and whole zone of Uldum. They were walking-reference, literally. Yet nobody complained about it because it was funny, goofy... BUT DONE WITH STYLE. And good story. And good voice acting.

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So to avoid getting too controversial, I'll just say that there is a kind of person who looks at characters and wants to be like them, and another kind of person who needs characters to be just like himself/herself (at least psychologically). The latter kind of person has become the dominant personality type of the writers, so more characters are written to have the mindset of suburban Californians in 2023.

couldn't write this better myself.

sadly, youre 101% right.

[Ferlion]

I can't wait till it's Blizzcon

[Selorian]

So.... you take just 1 dungeon from MOP.... and then theres HOF, Dread Wastes, ToT, SoO where Garrosh literally opens chests with still-beating heart.

Then genocide, torture, killing POWs.... yeah... mop was laugh and giggle. For 1 dungeon and 1 zone.

MoP has LOTS to do with WARCRAFT. LOOOOOOTS! Everything about it is warcraft related AND/OR has "warcraft" vibe in it.

You failed miserably in trying to "make a point".

also, you forgot to mention Lost City of Tol Vir dungeon and whole zone of Uldum. They were walking-reference, literally. Yet nobody complained about it because it was funny, goofy... BUT DONE WITH STYLE. And good story. And good voice acting.

So.... you take just 1 dungeon from DF.... and then theres VOTI, Azure Span, ToT, Aberrus where Neltharion literally experiments on living beings.

Then genocide, slavery, familicide.... yeah... df was laugh and giggle. For 1 dungeon and 1 zone.

DF has LOTS to do with WARCRAFT. LOOOOOOTS! Everything about it is warcraft related AND/OR has "warcraft" vibe in it.

You failed miserably in trying to "make a point".

also, you forgot to mention Dawn of the Infinites dungeon and whole zone of Thaldraszus. They were walking-reference, literally. Yet nobody complained about it because it was funny, goofy... BUT DONE WITH STYLE. And good story. And good voice acting.

e: Seriously, Uldum? Have you ever actually talked to anyone who played this game? It's near universally despised

So to avoid getting too controversial, I'll just say that there is a kind of person who looks at characters and wants to be like them, and another kind of person who needs characters to be just like himself/herself (at least psychologically). The latter kind of person has become the dominant personality type of the writers, so more characters are written to have the mindset of suburban Californians in 2023.

Typical rightwing snowflake, can't handle anything outside of your little hugbox.

[Calfredd]

also, you forgot to mention Lost City of Tol Vir dungeon and whole zone of Uldum. They were walking-reference, literally. Yet nobody complained about it because it was funny, goofy... BUT DONE WITH STYLE. And good story. And good voice acting.

Where were you during Cata? A lot of people complained about how Uldum was basically Indiana Jones featuring the Tol'vir.

[Merryck]

Shouldn't Lightforged Draenei be called Lightforged Eredar?

[Makorus]

My favourite new buzzword is "feels like Warcraft" because nobody can explain what the fuck that even is, but it's a good tool to shit on something you don't like.

[flan1337]

I miss the stormbreaker pages

[Merryck]

I miss the stormbreaker pages

Stormbreak / Stormbreaker is a pretty decent name. Much better than Shores / Shadow / Secrets of x.

[Ebonn]

Shouldn't Lightforged Draenei be called Lightforged Eredar?

Wow this never occurred to me, but yeah, they never went to Draenor with Velen, right? Lol whoops!

Edit: Wait I think that’s wrong. Pretty sure they called themselves Draenei “exiled ones” before splitting and landing on Draenor.

[Ferlion]

My favourite new buzzword is "feels like Warcraft" because nobody can explain what the fuck that even is, but it's a good tool to shit on something you don't like.

Heavy Metal instead of Rock Opera.

Or pop rock, as Dragonflight feels sometimes.

[matijwow]

Shouldn't Lightforged Draenei be called Lightforged Eredar?

Apparently when the eredar left Argus with Velen on a Naaru ship (and were thus exiled/Draenei), somewhere on the way to Draenor the ship split in two, with one crashing on Draenor, and the other flying around with Xera until it crashed on Argus in Legion. Just read this so it's news to me.

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I've been playing through old quests this weekend. One thing I never hear in complaints is the quests, but Legion is still really fun to quest through, especially Suramar. I like being in that place and playing through that story. I don't feel the same about other expansions.

[Chickat]

So this has been discussed before, but I am curious to see if anyone has any new ideas on it.
Assuming we get a Timewalking revamp, what do people want? Other than of course the remaining expansions to be worked in?

Personally I would love if 1. Timewalking lasts at least a few weeks at a time. 2. Timewalking incorporates a zone and relevant quests and acitivites from said expansion. 3. Rewards are more fleshed out, with raid recolours and mounts. 4. Timewalking raids are baked more heavily into the later parts of a season. Rather than being an intermittent source of NM gear, have it be a constant source of HC gear for when the .5 and .7 patches come out and the current raid has grown stale.

Timewalking should always be active and rotating weekly on the xpac.

[Yus atath]

I’m gonna stop checking this thread until after the 11.0 announcement. Bye guys <3

[NoTimeToDie5426]

So.... you take just 1 dungeon from DF.... and then theres VOTI, Azure Span, ToT, Aberrus where Neltharion literally experiments on living beings.

Then genocide, slavery, familicide.... yeah... df was laugh and giggle. For 1 dungeon and 1 zone.

DF has LOTS to do with WARCRAFT. LOOOOOOTS! Everything about it is warcraft related AND/OR has "warcraft" vibe in it.

You failed miserably in trying to "make a point".

also, you forgot to mention Dawn of the Infinites dungeon and whole zone of Thaldraszus. They were walking-reference, literally. Yet nobody complained about it because it was funny, goofy... BUT DONE WITH STYLE. And good story. And good voice acting.

e: Seriously, Uldum? Have you ever actually talked to anyone who played this game? It's near universally despised



Typical rightwing snowflake, can't handle anything outside of your little hugbox.

What a garbage response/take, you know what he means in that DF is more cartoony/disney than any other expansion through its delivery. Quit being dramatic.

[Chickat]

I can't speak for anyone else but myself obviously but either a Karesh expansion or a revamp would hype me up theme wise. Features wise I'm not really picky. I don't actually need any new big features to be content with an expansion, it's usually more the absence of certain things that will sour my opinion but if they ever add a true Battlemage class or spec I don't think I'd ever touch anything else.

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I think that's a distinct possibility if the expansion is a new continent as opposed to a revamp or something cosmic. If Elune features heavily then I expect that Decay will feature very heavily but as far as like any theories in that direction I've got none.

Isn't a battle mage basically an enh shaman? What exactly would you want out of a battle mage class?

[Polybius]

My favourite new buzzword is "feels like Warcraft" because nobody can explain what the fuck that even is, but it's a good tool to shit on something you don't like.

I take it they mean gothic WoW. But that era has long passed since we're not in EK or Kalimdor anymore. Undead and demons dominated the majority of the world but those threats have been dealt with.

[Ferlion]

Isn't a battle mage basically an enh shaman? What exactly would you want out of a battle mage class?

No.

Battlemage is like the boss from Sauramar raid.

[Chickat]

In terms of leaks, I'm a sucker for really good logos. Doesn't even have to be the real logo as long as it's good enough to fool me.

I remember when the Shadowlands logo dropped, I could immediately tell that it was the real deal since it was super high-res and had way more effort and care put into it than any other prior leak.

With the Dragonflight logo on the other hand, I was completely in denial over it being the real logo because it had comparatively much less detail and it broke the silhouette of past expansion logos in a way that was completely unprecedented. And I wasn't alone in thinking that.

If the logo leaks, I hope they've changed something up this time around as well (like DF did with the silhouette) so that no one can make up their mind about whether or not it's real. That'll be fun.

Comic sans wow logo coming right up lol.

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Agreed, I really enjoyed DF leak season, it was a lot of fun seeing all the speculations and people putting these logos up and them being dissected, this leak season has just been ai one ai image after another based on the achievement leak names and it's really muddied the waters.

I can't believe how much ai progressed in 2 years.

[Polybius]

What a garbage response/take, you know what he means in that DF is more cartoony/disney than any other expansion through its delivery. Quit being dramatic.

Well... they're trying to use a very specific location/mindset to stereotype an assorted population, which isn't that different from any other place. Bad takes from bad responses *shrug*