The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Rathwell]

MY DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE!!!

Thank you for this =')

You better be grateful, Cheezits had to pull a lot of strings to pull this one off for you!

[Mace]

If they're not playable races and want to kill you, then yeah, they're monsters.

And again, while NEs built the city, they no longer control it. Demons control the eastern part of the city, and Ogres control the northern part of the city.

Similar with Suramar, except there are people who likely built it still there, but some of the others who may have built it, no longer there, because you know, the whole resistance and defeating Azshara then the sundering and losing everything.... one would have loved them to get at least one back. or if not , build one even nicer and more majestic than all the old ones.

I do expect night elf architecture to be stunning because of their racial concepts - they tried to carve nature through stone and went for beauty to honour the goddess - Elune is the inspiration for their beauty.. if you notice the best buildings are the temples to Elune, and the palaces seem to try and emulate the temples.

But the Shen'dralar have commissioned adventurers from both factions to clear out the corrupt Prince, the ogres and the demons. We just don't know what happened.

so they have 3 options: Suramar, Eldre'thalas or a brand new city.

[Dragon ANX]

And what are your reasons for not believing it? Just curious. I am very sus of it as well.

He kinda went back at his words at the start and that coud be just his poor memory but.... also he talked too much, 95% of the time Real Leakers dont have that much knowledge.
What he talks do make sense and not outright deniable so i'm giving him some points and the benefit of doubt.

[Izalla]

I would hate this honestly. We do not need another beam to make Fyrakk dissapear in dust as Deathwing was.

We need something physical. The Aspects working their asses off to kill Fyrakk. I certainly hope that Fyrakk dies like a boss and kill someone in a savage way. I would love him to burn an Aspect until just the bones remain.

We saved Nozdormu from becoming Murozond by keeping him alive long enough to get murdered by Fyrakk and thus never able to fall to the Infinites

[flan1337]

It would be pretty neat. The sky darkens. The moon covers the sun in an eclipse, but you can just make out a small crescent in the sky.

A massive celestial arc just swipes down on Fyrakk, leaving him as a crisp. Epic orchestral music slows to a few somber notes, before somebody whispers: "Kaldorei, you are home."

Fyrakk should do something crazy before he dies - maybe with the Axe he is somehow able to destroy the dream or damage it in a crazy way?

[Izalla]

Wow, congrats! That's awesome.
And that sure is one lucky baby for having such a cool mom.

Aww thank you. Her daddy named her after a video game character too hahah

[Azalar]

man I like fryakk as a villain. Hopefully 10.2 has more interaction with him because I hate we are killing him what feels like so fast. We need more reasons to hate him because right now I kind of like him.

You can't really hate Matt Mercer in any form ngl

[Rathwell]

Fyrakk should do something crazy before he dies - maybe with the Axe he is somehow able to destroy the dream or damage it in a crazy way?

Perhaps he'll fall to his knees and right before he dies he mutters something about doing everything he did to protect us from a greater evil that is about to come

[Izalla]

The Sylvanas Bow was just kind of lame. The effect was neat but not actually very good. Jaithys from KT and the daggers from Sylvanas were way more powerful effects and so that's what people remember.

It wasn't even her original bow either right? It was some Jailer looking weapon. The daggers would have been way better because we watched her fight Saurfang with them and actually recognized them from earlier in the story.

[Dracullus]

Do we have anyhting if we already have the 1 year sub up ?

I don't have it and I'm on yearly plan refreshing on April. Kinda dick move if it isn't a bug, for 6 month all you need to have was 6 month plan.

[Izalla]

We already had rewards from previous months return.

Ones you could buy yeah, but not one of the rewards for capping that month, no?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Why is anyone continuing to argue with Teriz? Your man is delusional and it's annoying to see people engage with him.

Boredom mostly.

Leaks don’t interest me and we haven’t had any new info for weeks now.

[Mace]

trolls and ogres aren’t monsters.

the night elf’s who built dire maul are stil there you kill there prince.

Yes, and they are the ones that commission players from both factions to kill the evil Prince, and get rid of the ogres and the Satyrs in all the wings.

Question is would they re build Eldre'thalas.

I guess best case scenario for night elves would be an updated and pristine Eldre'thalas along with a new city in or around Amir'drassil. Have new Feralas quests with the Highborne faction having secured their city, preventing invasion and securing Feralas, while Amirdrassil would be peaceful new home. Unless Amirdrassil shows up in Feralas instead. Well, as long as the city is stunning and the tree is stunning.

[Izalla]

You better be grateful, Cheezits had to pull a lot of strings to pull this one off for you!

Hahah I meant a double thank you for letting me know as well as thanking Blizz for doing that, but you know what? Yes. Thank you Cheezits for making Blizz give me the dragon! You're the best!

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He kinda went back at his words at the start and that coud be just his poor memory but.... also he talked too much, 95% of the time Real Leakers dont have that much knowledge.
What he talks do make sense and not outright deniable so i'm giving him some points and the benefit of doubt.

So far the only thing that makes him seem better at this than other "leakers" is acknowledging he hasn't seen everything. People who stay to chat like to get caught up in the attention and answer every question. Acting like you're not totally certain what you saw and just not knowing all that much overall seems more genuine even if it is bullshit.

[Teriz]

Except we’ve been to Kezan, the island Undermine is under…
And it was almost entirely goblin with the exception of maybe a slaves. Hardly your definition of “cosmopolitan”

Blizzard devs themselves stated that we've only seen a tiny part of Kezan.

The Dragon Isles was never a “major lore location” prior to DF.
The only “lore” we got was concept art of the old god temple.

It wasn't officially canon, but it was always regarded as the place where the dragons of WoW originated from. Blizzard simply made that official in the current expansion.

Never said they WEREN’T (in fact i gave examples of what they used) I said they prefer to use new locations probably because they can actually expand on them more.

Again, Shadowlands in 9.0, Kul'Tiras and Zandalar in 8.0, Broken Isles and Suramar in 7.0, Draenor in 6.0, Pandaria in 5.0 etc. says otherwise.

[Hitei]

Why is anyone continuing to argue with Teriz? Your man is delusional and it's annoying to see people engage with him.

Same reason people argue with flat earthers.

[Revamp Man]

So fyrakk was the anger mentioned in the Naga book
Also if Vyranoth doesn't go full traitor or sacrifice herself then the writers might actually surprise people

[Helothar]

Perhaps he'll fall to his knees and right before he dies he mutters something about doing everything he did to protect us from a greater evil that is about to come

LOL, haha. I liked the Jailer cinematic actually, it's a nice foreshadowing of a (far) future expansion storyline, and also how cool was using the Forge of Souls to extract Azeroth's power/soul? This reminds me how I liked 9.2 and the cosmic theme it offered. Looking forward to more cosmic stuff done well (so nothing like 9.0-9.1.5 or the hyper-mega-super-ultra-4d chess of Zovaal story), I'd even visit other Zereths, gladly.

[Teriz]

Then so are goblins(see venture co), we should really head into the undermine raid and clear them out.

Goblins are playable, and the Venture company is part of the same race as our playable Goblins.

and said necromancers weren’t the ruler of the city and then started feeding them to there people to keep them healthy.

I do believe the point is that Stratholme was built and controlled by Humans until the undead overran it. Dire Maul was built and controlled by Night Elves until Demons and Ogres overran parts of it. Grim Batol was ruled by Dwarves until Dragons and N'Zoth's minions overran it.

The Goblins built and still control Undermine.

no none of there lore starts with “this is a hostile location” they were all city’s they could have been easily added to the game neutral just like undermine.

But they weren't. They were conceived to be hostile locations from the beginning.

Just as undermine can be added to the game as hostile.

Again, it has never been conceived that way in any lore, and the Goblin race in general is neutral to players.

the original concept doesn’t matter just like the dragon isle isn’t a random island based around ah old god temple or the eradar are no longer all evil and Suamar isn’t at the bottom of the sea.

Except the original concept is still applicable in modern WoW since Goblins as a whole are still a neutral race and Goblin holdings are open to both factions (Booty Bay and Gadgetzhan). There is nothing justify or indicate that the whole of Undermine will suddenly become a hostile location. It's nonsense to argue that the location is going to be hostile when nothing in lore or concept points it in that direction.

and even in that context it isn’t relevant as there’s been no hints of it, hell Grim Batol and shadow forge are more relevant already because the actual hints points toward dwarf involvement.

Except Grim Batol is a hostile location largely controlled by monsters and Shadowforge is an Alliance location hostile to the Horde. Undermine on the other hand is a neutral location that is both located underground and isn't hostile to either faction. How is that location less relevant than the examples you gave?

[Pinksocking]

where are the leaks