The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[NikolaiShade]

fellas

ladies

lets get back on topic

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716575229663723564

NZOTH IS IN THE BUILDING

considering DF story...if it's not N'zoth it must be someone of the family anyway

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I think thats a good way to do it. You would lose the connection to the surface level stuff since that would need a more spread out/horizontal layout. But the idea of having to get deeper and deeper could be really interesting. Especially if its like... whats at the core? Is it a world soul? is it corrupted? etc and each layer unravels more of the mystery.

I have a crazy theory, assuming we get Khaz Algar and Avaloren, the only way to reach Avaloren is through the fissure in Khaz Algar

[ro9ue]

Man, do I love this. Make it a Hollow Earth with the World Soul as the center/sun. A true Cosmic Egg.

I think a bonus to this would be you can incorporate / reference every piece of land on Azeroth into the new content for a nostalgic anniversary expansion.

[Teriz]

My problem with this idea is that the underground zones (or the tunnels between them) would need to be ridiculously long to allow for a believable travel between the continents. I'm all for connecting all continents into one map, but doing it through sailing would make much more sense. Then again, it's almost certain that Blizz did not develop "dynamic loading" technology exclusively with Zaralek in mind, so who knows.

Depends. If an area like Khaz Algar for example is 3-4 zones large (about the size of Kul'tiras) it could be connected to another zone (say Undermine) via a tunnel system using Dwarven mole machines, or the Gnome/Goblin built tunnels around Undermine, It would be no different than catching a boat between continents.

I'd like to see a new tran system (like the one between Stormwind and Ironforge) coming out of Undermine as well.

[Demonly]

So is a Cloud Serpent. Pandaria revamp?

I think they literally mean that Nzoth is inside the building (on roof). While the cloud serp is outside.

[xputurnameherex]

could be march 31 as well going by that

[flan1337]

My gut feeling agrees with that, I've messed around with it a little and it's very clear that albeit it still requires some kind of "airlock" (which is what they call the tech) to hide transitions, it could most definitely be applied elsewhere.

It's not tied to Zaralek at all on the client and instead comes from the server telling the client to go into low-view distance mode and to preload a piece of map (probably when the server sees you halfway the tunnel) and then sometime after doing a seamless teleport to that map.

Counter point is that the the current implementation feels like an early one/experiment as there's still several issues with the system that haven't been fixed since its release. Whether or not that points to it being a one-off or to them not wanting to backport fixes from the 11.0 branch for whatever reason remains to be seen, but I feel like we'll see the tech in some form again soon.

Wonder if they can use the tech to change how caves work in a revamp world? Or hell even the tram from SW to IF. Imagine if there was no loading screen?? I think there is a lot of possibilities to be had with this new tech!

Its also crazy for an engine from 04 that its able to do all of these stuff - I wonder when we will hit the technical limits of it.

[ro9ue]

Random thought. Anyone think Bael Modan will be relevant?

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Bael_Modan

Kalimdor. Dwarves. Titan facility. Underground. Near sword. Maybe Razorfen Quillboar worshipped the viney/leafy 5th old god from chronicle? The botani supposedly ran over there. Wailing Caverns was weird.

[Paula Deen]

Regarding this part, eehhhhh. Take a look at any legit leak post from prior years and uhhhh... there's a lot of "this is so stupid an obviously fake lol" posts =/

To be fair, usually its the same group of people calling all the leaks fake and usually its not the people with over 1k posts. Its usually fresher faces that call it all fake...usually.

[Pinksocking]

i miss nzoth so much

he was such a great villain

nyalotha was a fantastic raid

gib

[Paula Deen]

My gut feeling agrees with that, I've messed around with it a little and it's very clear that albeit it still requires some kind of "airlock" (which is what they call the tech) to hide transitions, it could most definitely be applied elsewhere.

It's not tied to Zaralek at all on the client and instead comes from the server telling the client to go into low-view distance mode and to preload a piece of map (probably when the server sees you halfway the tunnel) and then sometime after doing a seamless teleport to that map.

Counter point is that the the current implementation feels like an early one/experiment as there's still several issues with the system that haven't been fixed since its release. Whether or not that points to it being a one-off or to them not wanting to backport fixes from the 11.0 branch for whatever reason remains to be seen, but I feel like we'll see the tech in some form again soon.

I have been an adamant team player on the front of the loading tech being used for some kind of new zone but then it hit me the other day. They implemented its use to increase loading distance and reduce the use of fog in EK and Kalimdor. So perhaps the tech was made for Zaralek as a test to see if they could fix the pretty jarring fog issues in the game.

I do agree though even its currently implementation is pretty bad but it is still better than a Bethesda Game or whatever the fuck was going on at the end of Cata through most of MoP with the View Distance Fog. (Seriously I specifically remember it being so bad back then that I was using a Machinima Tool to disable fog. It was THAT bad.)

[Pheraz]

i miss nzoth so much

he was such a great villain

nyalotha was a fantastic raid

gib

Yeah... Compared to the captain planet tyranno sauri we got now and in general from the Azshara Warbringer to the raid it was a very very good villain.
BFA looks better and better the more I play DF

[Ferlion]

Just because.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716862295169486919

Says players, not characters so. That's the closest I think we've had for sub numbers in a long time

[Well Done Steak]

Which indicates that they have larger plans for Undermine beyond being only an instance or just a zone. Also we got a brand new Gnome island because of Mechagnomes being added as an allied race.



I didn't say an expansion that takes us west of Kalimdor, I was talking about an underground expansion to the world soul;



Undermine should be there.

Okay I got to say. It'd be pretty sick to be in an underground zone where the tip of Gorribal is on the ceiling

[Pinksocking]

Yeah... Compared to the captain planet tyranno sauri we got now and in general from the Azshara Warbringer to the raid it was a very very good villain.
BFA looks better and better the more I play DF

im not gonna lie to u this afternoon mmo-champion

corruption is the most underrated thing blizzard has ever done

BRING BACK CORRUPTION

BRING BACK 90% HASTE BUILDS

BRING BACK TWILIGHT DEVESTATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Delever]

Didn't the entire story blurb for WoD leak but no one believed them because it was so out of left field? But yes, definitely more of the exception than the rule. The real leaks tend to be light on the details.

EDIT: Found it.

Man even to this day, reading this leak still sounds so absurdly stupid I still can't believe WoD was a thing.... When I saw the announcement I was literally like ...... "holy shit I can't believe this leak was real". And this is probably the only leak we ve had that had this much detail about the story into it.

[Marlamin]

Wonder if they can use the tech to change how caves work in a revamp world? Or hell even the tram from SW to IF. Imagine if there was no loading screen?? I think there is a lot of possibilities to be had with this new tech!

Its also crazy for an engine from 04 that its able to do all of these stuff - I wonder when we will hit the technical limits of it.

Yeah, Deeprun Tram would be a good use of it although they might have to change the trams to be taxi rather than what it currently is.

Historically they just change the engine when they hit limits, it isn't some sort of static thing they can't change, thankfully.

[flan1337]

Random thought. Anyone think Bael Modan will be relevant?

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Bael_Modan

Kalimdor. Dwarves. Titan facility. Underground. Near sword. Maybe Razorfen Quillboar worshipped the viney/leafy 5th old god from chronicle? The botani supposedly ran over there. Wailing Caverns was weird.

look into frost dwarves - I brought it up a few weeks back. They are the current non-pure dwarves race that have no recollection on their past.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Frostborn

[NikolaiShade]

Just because.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716862295169486919

Says players, not characters so. That's the closest I think we've had for sub numbers in a long time

Says "player characters" so I don't think it means really anything

[letgoit]

Just because.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716862295169486919

Says players, not characters so. That's the closest I think we've had for sub numbers in a long time

Literally says "player characters" in the video, homie.

[Ferlion]

Says "player characters" so I don't think it means really anything

I didn't watch the video, so. That's pretty misleading.