The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Izalla]

We have no idea why Eonar may or may not have picked such a location. All we know is there is an infested World Tree there in the Nightmare version which has no explanation, and that Eonar once planted a tree somewhere that was ripped out of the ground long before any mortal civilization existed to remember such an event.

The devs don't always follow through on the most logical course of actions so applying our logic to something we don't know about yet can be a bit useless. By their own in-universe rules, C'thun's corpse being drenched in Azerite should have resurrected him the same way the watered down lifeblood of Azeroth in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms revilitized Y'Shaarj's heart, but so far we have yet to see C'thun again.

Planting the tree near C'thun is obviously a stupid idea since we know Old Gods corrupt the trees and the Dream through them (though the Titans couldn't actually know that yet since none had suffered that fate yet). But it being a terrible idea doesn't prevent Blizz from deciding to do it because they have a storyline in mind that requires it. Or if they want to utilize that Legion breadcrumb that they didn't think through when they came up with the idea.

[Valysar]

The Druid of the flame transmog will be available or not ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt820CYMQZo

[Izalla]

No, instead she probably went "Wow, maybe I should plant this very precious thing on the other side of the planet where it can grow safely."



The Old Gods don't walk over and swat things. They burrow deep under the ground and corrupt things, the Titans knew that is how they worked, so why would she plant something that sends down roots to look for nutrients practically on top of an Old God?

But we don't know what's over there yet. Maybe Xal'atah's lingering essence was over there and Eonar wanted it as far from possible from that. Do we have any indication if Y'shaarj had already been plucked out by the time the tree was planted, or was he plucked out after?

[Revamp Man]

can we stop reading into the blizzcon set?
Its confirmed 1 to 1 parts of the bronze temple.

I was gone long enough for 100 pages to pop up
Ain't got time to comb between marketing discussions, why this leak is real, or why that leak is fake, or how Odyn is corrupted, in order to find a small blip on the discussions

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we already know its based on the corridor of time which is one the blizzcon map. Its basically bronze dragon themed, its a copy of whats ingame.

Can't lie that's awesome

[Woke it Up]

I was gonna be really sad if no one caught that

Stick 'em up

[Hitei]

But we don't know what's over there yet. Maybe Xal'atah's lingering essence is over there and Eonar wanted it as far from possible from that. Do we have any indication if Y'shaarj had already been plucked out by the time the tree was planted, or was he plucked out after?

The timeline is unclear. Both happened prior to the bulk of the fall of the Black Empire.

[Revamp Man]

Yrel coming back via bronze magic for light v void confirmed??

That's a disappointing possibility for me but it's inevitably going to happen in some expansion

[Merryck]

Eonar is either working with the void or she's just incredibly naive. Either way is what I'd expect from the redheaded stepchild of the Pantheon.

[Hitei]

Eonar is either working with the void or she's just incredibly naive. Either way is what I'd expect from the redheaded stepchild of the Pantheon.

No, she is working with Life. Hello?

[Catastrophy349]

Blizzard employee reading this thread... I beg of you... Just a crumb please.

It is happening at BlizzCon. You're welcome.

[22mage22]

Did any leak mention so far the addition of more classes for the Dracthyrs? Because Blizzard said (I think through Ion on an interview, but I may remember it wrong) that they will in the future, and I think the new expansion could be a very good opportunity to add for them basic classes like mage, warrior, hunter and maybe even shaman...

dracthyrs will have shamans

[Teriz]

Okay I got to say. It'd be pretty sick to be in an underground zone where the tip of Gorribal is on the ceiling

The map is fine, it simply should include Undermine, since Blizzard would clearly add it to an underground expansion.

[Catastrophy349]

I'm so excited for the speculation over the next 10 days. People create some crazy ideas the closer it is to BlizzCon.

[Woke it Up]

It is happening at BlizzCon. You're welcome.

[Catastrophy349]

You no take candle!

[matijwow]

Eonar is either working with the void or she's just incredibly naive. Either way is what I'd expect from the redheaded stepchild of the Pantheon.

Shadowlands bifurcated the 6 forces into two:
Life, Shadow, and Fel are all Chaotic (which is basically disorder).
Death, Light, and Arcane are all Static (which is basically order).

It seems pretty dumb to me given that Sargeras was fighting the Void, but then again, the Legion lore hints at the conflict between Light and Void being the true war and everything else coming later.

[Demonly]

Supposedly there's a "Crap load" or "more than normal" amount of Warcraft stuff happening at Blizzcon this year. I am excited to be able to attend in person.

[Selorian]

Shadowlands bifurcated the 6 forces into two:
Life, Shadow, and Fel are all Chaotic (which is basically disorder).
Death, Light, and Arcane are all Static (which is basically order).

It seems pretty dumb to me given that Sargeras was fighting the Void, but then again, the Legion lore hints at the conflict between Light and Void being the true war and everything else coming later.

You are taking things characters said as Word of God and not just that character's opinion. Of course Xalatath thinks the Light vs. Void war is the only thing that matters, she's part of the Void.

[Foolicious]

The Old Gods don't walk over and swat things. They burrow deep under the ground and corrupt things, the Titans knew that is how they worked, so why would she plant something that sends down roots to look for nutrients practically on top of an Old God?

They knew how it worked after they nearly killed the planet by ripping out y'sharrj. They had no idea prior to that. Depends on the timeline, but i doubt it would matter a lot anyway.

Eonar is either working with the void or she's just incredibly naive. Either way is what I'd expect from the redheaded stepchild of the Pantheon.

Eonar seems more like a secret leader of the titans. I always find it amusing that it is eonar that has to remind aman'thul that "it is time" to capture sargeras.
Maybe she even has her own agenda that is aligned with life, but i doubt she is working with the void or just did an oopsie with the place she planted the tree.

I thought we were feeding THEM crumbs.

Us: Wild tinfoil theory

Steve and co: Oooh, write that down, write that down!

Oh no. Teriz what have you done?!

[Baraden]

In 7 days or less, we'll probably have the real leak that gives us the general theme or expansion name. In 10 days, we'll all be spamming this thead like mad in the final hours before BlizzCon. I can't wait!

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I kind of agree with you both, tbh. In the end, I prefer for her to be a mystery.

But I wish Blizzard would stop dangling her in front of our faces, just out of our reach. Just put her aside and let her be the goddess in the background, and let us turn to focus on gnolls and crap instead.

The problem with introducing her directly is now she needs to have an arc; the reason things are interesting/frightening etc is the idea that they could be anything - revealing Elune is going to be inevitably disappointing, like when/if they reveal the world-soul of Azeroth

I just think some things are better left to the imagination; I was almost against revealing sargeras but I think him being an antagonist kinda means we needed to see him eventually

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Did any leak mention so far the addition of more classes for the Dracthyrs? Because Blizzard said (I think through Ion on an interview, but I may remember it wrong) that they will in the future, and I think the new expansion could be a very good opportunity to add for them basic classes like mage, warrior, hunter and maybe even shaman...

More importantly

Evokers for other races or at the very least allow us to play evoker in the humanoid visage all the time; dracthyr imo are the worst looking race they've ever added and as I'm not a scalie, I will never play one