The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ferlion]

Literally anything.

It didn't need to be a revamp, but if we have to get our 3rd hidden continent, this time for the second time in a row, then the zones and themes in the zone should be more original than what we've been getting the last couple years.

Wow is 20 years old, and we've seen a fuckton of biomes and themes already, so i don't expect them to come up with never-before-seen stuff, but i do expect the multi-billion dollar company to use its vast amount of resources to pay its designers to come up with a (original or spin-off) creative take on things we've already had so it doesn't feel like a blatant copy paste.

Like the wood-dwarf concept that's been floating around the thread some time ago.

4th, technically.

Kalimdor was technically also a hidden continent before WC3. I don't know if that counts.

[ercarp]

Not sure why that person deleted their post, but for reference some things I noticed:

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So at least a few reskins of existing models going on which (even when ignoring the amount of work that would go into making a custom environment like this with proper retail fog/lighting) is a lot of work to do for a leak. Not impossible, but definitely a good amount of work.

Good analysis.

It could be faked, yes, but at this point I'm thinking it isn't. This would be an insane amount of work for a fake, even more than the Stormwind Harbor "leaked cinematic" with all the ghost ships. Like a hundred times more effort and time.

Only thing I'm put off by is this tree. It looks so low-res compared to everything else.



Wait a minute...

Enhance!



Why does the guy in the background look exactly like the Agg'orand creature from the website leak? Even has the same red tattoos on their chest and arms!

[Ferlion]

Good analysis.

It could be faked, yes, but at this point I'm thinking it isn't. This would be an insane amount of work for a fake, even more than the Stormwind Harbor "leaked cinematic" with all the ghost ships. Like a hundred times more effort and time.

Only thing I'm put off by is this tree. It looks so low-res compared to everything else.



Wait a minute...

Enhance!



Why does the guy in the background look exactly like the Agg'orand creature from the website leak? Even has the same red tattoos on their chest and arms!

That's one of the reasons I think it's fake.

[Santandame]

It isn't necessarily legit but yeah it does have that same exact veneer of denial spread through out. It wasn't just Dracthyr either it was MoP, WoD, Legion, BFA, SL and DF. O that's almost all of them. Actually I'm pretty sure I remember people saying the same thing for Wrath because "How could we possibly fight Arthas"

No one acknowledged the Legion leak. It was posted in its thread as a small list when the set precedent was in depth leaks such as WoD before it. No one paid any attention to the Legion leak whatsoever. We went into that Blizzcon convinced it would be Council of Glades or Eye of Azshara, but that’s only because no one paid any attention to the Legion leak whatsoever. There was no discussion surrounding that leak, so there wasn’t any denial in regards to it.

BfA again wasn’t leaked apart from the name and just hours prior to the reveal. There was a lot of speculation surrounding it but it was a pretty mixed bag on what it could be.

We were all pretty convinced of Shadowlands being the expansion way before it was revealed, we just weren’t sure on the details. The Bolvar leak had its detractors but most agreed it was legit as did most with the Bastion leak.

DF with the Dracthyr screenshots was the only scenario where the majority on mass were denying it’s legitimacy.

[locketto]

Why does the guy in the background look exactly like the Agg'orand creature from the website leak? Even has the same red tattoos on their chest and arms!

Similar for sure but a bit little differents, shoulders for example

[Harbour]

Because its most likely the same guy with nice PS skills screwing around.
Or maybe even Blizzard themselves leaking fake info, just for Metzen to do 'Well you all do expect some another island, huh? Nah, you will get THIS (epic trailer showing world revamp and Light vs Void expansion)' stage stunt at Blizzcon.

[ercarp]

That's one of the reasons I think it's fake.

It's having the opposite effect for me.

Someone who's this good at creating fake environments, model edits, what have you... there's no way they would get something as silly as the perspective of the laptop wrong. More likely they did that on purpose just to screw with people by sharing the real leak and making it look fake.

[Wangming]

That's one of the reasons I think it's fake.

I mean if all of this is fake by the same person/team, they need to be hired by Blizzard ASAP.

[Pheraz]

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Wow is 20 years old, and we've seen a fuckton of biomes and themes already, so i don't expect them to come up with never-before-seen stuff

Exactly. This is my main point. Warcfafts world, theme, art, races, atmosphere is ... How to call this.... Evolved, fully evolved. It's like it has perfected it's imagination of "elves" , "wood elves", "dwarfs", "cosmic horror", "deep sea horror", "religious fanatics", "nature utopia"
I don't think they should go this "another cosmic horror", "another dwarf" direction. The Problem is that is the devaluation of the existing things. We've seen this with titans and progenitors

[ercarp]

Similar for sure but a bit little differents, shoulders for example

Some details are usually lost when you translate concept art into the game. Overall, the coloring on the shoulders is the exact same as in the artwork.

[PotHockets]

I mean if all of this is fake by the same person/team, they need to be hired by Blizzard ASAP.

That's where Im at. Either this is legit in which case hey neat or this is a slow burn fake leak involving multiple leaks and it deserves to be acknowledged. Im leaning towards legit though.

[Hitei]

It's having the opposite effect for me.

Someone who's this good at creating fake environments, model edits, what have you... there's no way they would get something as silly as the perspective of the laptop wrong. More likely they did that on purpose just to screw with people by sharing the real leak and making it look fake.

Really don't know why you guys think the perspective is wrong.

[Nyel]

I do have to say. We've got 4 potential screenshots with no other details. That is... super duper bold to claim that makes it a disappointing expansion. I mean, I think this is fake. But even if it's not I'm still excited because I love new stuff.

If you really are that depressed and against WoW I just don't see why you would stick around to play. Like, pretty much any new content gets me pumped. I genuinely enjoy the game, and have since Vanilla. The only half exception I think I've ever had was Shadowlands.

I dunno, sometimes it feels like the negativity is a self fulfilling prophecy.

People are disappointed because it looks like everything we got in the last decade. Even if these are just stills from the video preview, there’s not an inch of freshness or novelty to it.

Solely being excited for new stuff is setting the bar for everything in the future very low when it’s so formulaic and redundant.

By the way, why are people time and time again clinging to the world revamp stuff? Now it’s just a partial revamp? When will you guys finally stop, it’s not happening. Every two years the same revamp shenanigans and people never learn.

[Wangming]

Literally anything.

It didn't need to be a revamp, but if we have to get our 3rd hidden continent, this time for the second time in a row,

You see this is another thing I like about FFXIV. We know about every landmass. They are right fucking there. People just have no particular reason to visit them. And when they become added as playable areas, the story is moved in a direction where you get a reason to be there.

[Ferlion]

It's having the opposite effect for me.

Someone who's this good at creating fake environments, model edits, what have you... there's no way they would get something as silly as the perspective of the laptop wrong. More likely they did that on purpose just to screw with people by sharing the real leak and making it look fake.

It's not really just the screen. The cellphone is also a solid color and uniform brightness, and the cracks in the glass blend into the artwork.

But mostly, even beyond all of that, which could just be perspective...

It's a US apple keyboard and they are using british spelling. I'd buy British spelling getting through on a British or international keyboard. That isn't.

That being said, it could all be real, and either way I'm still excited.

[locketto]

Literally anything.

It didn't need to be a revamp, but if we have to get our 3rd hidden continent, this time for the second time in a row, then the zones and themes in the zone should be more original than what we've been getting the last couple years.

Wow is 20 years old, and we've seen a fuckton of biomes and themes already, so i don't expect them to come up with never-before-seen stuff, but i do expect the multi-billion dollar company to use its vast amount of resources to pay its designers to come up with a (original or spin-off) creative take on things we've already had so it doesn't feel like a blatant copy paste.

Like the wood-dwarf concept that's been floating around the thread some time ago.

It doesn't need to be something never before but something that generates hype.
How? I don't know it is not my job, but usually a big bad guy is the answer.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

fake or not, fuck dem mok'nathal looking dwarves but tall if they become playable, another asspull new race when in queue are already races that have been requested for years and over decade.

[Marlamin]

I mean if all of this is fake by the same person/team, they need to be hired by Blizzard ASAP.

Treading carefully here, but there are a lot of talented people out there in various communities that could have done this. It's a lot of work, especially in a recent timeframe, but it is not out of the question.

Why does the guy in the background look exactly like the Agg'orand creature from the website leak? Even has the same red tattoos on their chest and arms!

Yeah, this was mentioned a few pages ago as well. I'd say there is definitely a relation between those leaks, whether or not that does it any good or not... *shrugs*

[keelr]

Good analysis.

It could be faked, yes, but at this point I'm thinking it isn't. This would be an insane amount of work for a fake, even more than the Stormwind Harbor "leaked cinematic" with all the ghost ships. Like a hundred times more effort and time.

Only thing I'm put off by is this tree. It looks so low-res compared to everything else.



Wait a minute...

Enhance!



Why does the guy in the background look exactly like the Agg'orand creature from the website leak? Even has the same red tattoos on their chest and arms!

To me it feels like this: Our leaker copied the Ogre modell from the previous leak and added it to his leak. The Agg'orand leak contained the ogre only from waist and above. Now if you look at the desert picture you can see that from waist down its just 2 sticks, so probably just added two blurrly stick legs to the modell, that why such a "new model" only got place in the very background

[ercarp]

Really don't know why you guys think the perspective is wrong.

You don't think the perspective on the laptop looks off? Look at the square which contains the artwork of the Agg'orand and compare its alignment to the borders of the screen and the other website elements (like the bar at the top and the AVALOREN text). The square containing the artwork should be slightly slanted based on the position of the laptop and the surrounding website elements, but instead it looks like it's almost straight on.