The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nyel]

I mean at least another space or void expansion wouldn’t be just another unexplored continent on Azeroth yet.

Heck, even if we really did get an underground expansion and Avaloren would be completely underground like a gigantic cave system where you can enter from various overworld zones, it would still be better than a new continent that comes out of nowhere. Like… really? This worked for Pandaria. It somehow worked for Broken Isles. It already fell flat with DI and now again? Again? Like come on.

If they really give us Dragonflight 2.0 they really need to add some massive features for longevity. If they don’t this will be just the BfA to Legion, but overall in a way less epic and successful scope.

[Ferlion]

I'm pretty sure the dude who made the "responsive website test" leak admitted it was fake?

Different leaks. There was a fake bundle leak that someone admitted was fake.

The website one does seem to have been deleted from Reddit when it was posted by the mods, to be fair.

[Viridiel]

It's not really just the screen. The cellphone is also a solid color and uniform brightness, and the cracks in the glass blend into the artwork.

But mostly, even beyond all of that, which could just be perspective...

It's a US apple keyboard and they are using british spelling. I'd buy British spelling getting through on a British or international keyboard. That isn't.

That being said, it could all be real, and either way I'm still excited.

We have "US" keyboards in Australia and use British spelling, and Blizzard has employees here.

Also, I don't see anything like the cracks on the glass blending into the artwork. What do you mean?

[Wangming]

fake or not, fuck dem mok'nathal looking dwarves but tall if they become playable, another asspull new race when in queue are already races that have been requested for years and over decade.

Yeah, that is also one of my big fears. Another race we did not ask for when there are a bunch that we did.

[PotHockets]

You don't think the perspective on the laptop looks off? Look at the square which contains the artwork of the Agg'orand and compare its alignment to the borders of the screen and the other website elements (like the bar at the top and the AVALOREN text). The square containing the artwork should be slightly slanted based on the position of the laptop and the surrounding website elements, but instead it looks like it's almost straight on.

No it doesn't look off. I think the text bar is causing an optical illusion effect though.

[Ferlion]

We have "US" keyboards in Australia and use British spelling, and Blizzard has employees here.

Also, I don't see anything like the cracks on the glass blending into the artwork. What do you mean?

Lefthand side, middle of the screen. Cracks spiderweb out but on the bottom they curl with the artwork. I also think the crack is going off the phone screen there as well, but that could just be low resolution.

[ercarp]

I'll admit, Avaloren as a concept isn't getting me super hyped, but I actually really like how most of the zones in the screenshots look. The only one I'm not feeling is the mist-covered forest, it looks really basic.

But a Frostfire Ridge esque zone with dwarves, a Durotar 2.0 with harpies, and a jungle with titan dinosaurs? Sign me the hell up. Just based on what we're seeing here, I think I'll get some enjoyment out of 11.0.

[Nyel]

Honestly, what would be the story or main plot of Avaloren even be? Everything since after Legion feels like a setup, but never came to a satisfying conclusion. BfA and Shadowlands were so disappointing that they needed to end the overarching plot in the respective expansion. Dragonflight story-wise feels completely filler and just as a build-up for what’s to come, but would this really culminate in Avaloren? How so? It feels like there’s very little progress overall and that’s why the last expansions all fell so flat. The suspense isn’t suspensing.

[Ferlion]

I'll admit, Avaloren as a concept isn't getting me super hyped, but I actually really like how most of the zones in the screenshots look. The only one I'm not feeling is the mist-covered forest, it looks really basic.

But a Frostfire Ridge esque zone with dwarves, a Durotar 2.0 with harpies, and a jungle with titan dinosaurs? Sign me the hell up. Just based on what we're seeing here, I think I'll get some enjoyment out of 11.0.

My biggest complaint with it would be it's got so much Titan influence. One would think it wouldn't if it was a place at war with the keepers.

[Lorca]

fake or not, fuck dem mok'nathal looking dwarves but tall if they become playable, another asspull new race when in queue are already races that have been requested for years and over decade.

If those "tall dwarves" become playable before Mok'Nathal or Orgres... yeah, nasty move from Blizzard.

[caliphax]

Yeah, that is also one of my big fears. Another race we did not ask for when there are a bunch that we did.

I mean, there's nothing there that says they're going to be a playable race.

[Myrrh]

Lefthand side, middle of the screen. Cracks spiderweb out but on the bottom they curl with the artwork. I also think the crack is going off the phone screen there as well, but that could just be low resolution.

Enhance snip

That dwarf doesn't seem to have the Wolverine thingos on its hands that the new image does. Bit sus.

The other images look very believable though, honestly. Plantasaurs are a cool idea (the lil baby is cute too) and the first pic would be impressive if it's a fan mockup. Kinda sus about the very obvious linkages to the apparently(?) faked website one (especially that dead ringer ogre thing), but otherwise I think I'm on team believable...

[Hitei]

You don't think the perspective on the laptop looks off? Look at the square which contains the artwork of the Agg'orand and compare its alignment to the borders of the screen and the other website elements (like the bar at the top and the AVALOREN text). The square containing the artwork should be slightly slanted based on the position of the laptop and the surrounding website elements, but instead it looks like it's almost straight on.

I think your eyes are being tricked by the angle and the straight banner from the "mobile ready" thing.

I do think that leak is like 90%+ fake. Because as already mentioned, every expansion gets its own freshly designed website, and this one is just DF's site but with new visual bits and bombs. diamonds instead of circles, double arrows instead of triangles inside circles, frames with overlayed corner elements instead of inlaid ones.

It's background also really painfully just an AI regurgitation of the Dragon Isles main concept art. Someone brought up that it has britishism like "defence" and there are some basic design flaws like readability of the text and the lack of vignette-ing or otherwise downplaying the backgrounds. Also I don't know why two of the four pictures for what is clearly supposed to be zone explanations are instead pictures where you can't see the zone because they're such heavy close-ups on the people who live there.

But I don't think that angles are one of the issues.

[Ferlion]

Actually that brings up a really good point with the whole Titan influence thing.

Why would there be Harpy in Avaloren? The Emerald Dream is kind of indicated to not reach to the other side of the planet (otherwise the green dragon who left with her own brood would have, you know, been able to communicate through the dream), and that would mean Aviana would have no way to create harpies over there. Especially with her comments in 10.2 about not being able to leave the dream.

[Nyel]

If those "tall dwarves" become playable before Mok'Nathal or Orgres... yeah, nasty move from Blizzard.

Feels like another Mechagnome situation if this happens, just completely out of touch with the playerbase.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Yeah, that is also one of my big fears. Another race we did not ask for when there are a bunch that we did.

Yeah.. It was always annoying to me when community x asks about something or some feature they liked from previous expansion but then blizzard starts looping around that idea until they come with something "new" just to be original, that doesn't look even close to what people wanted.
Not saying it's confirmed at all, but i just fear it will happen again.

Also doesn't this hand look super weird on that picture? second one looks more normal.

[Grazrug]

Yeah.. It was always annoying to me when community x asks about something or some feature they liked from previous expansion but then blizzard starts looping around that idea until they come with something "new" just to be original, that doesn't look even close to what people wanted.

Also doesn't this hand look super weird on that picture? second one looks more normal.

It is very easy to generate those. Don't fall for it ogres model should be close to the WoD one.

[Pyrophax]

I really hope that this agg'ora is not next Horde race. They look like shit. Really hope that part is fake and we are gettin Mok'Nathals. Maybe there Rexxar will find home for them? If devs thinking about bringing Outland natives at Azeroth - why not to Avaloren some of them?
Stormdwarves are cool, I will make shaman one for sure, even maybe female one.

Really hope that insane work is fake to world rewamp idea.

[ercarp]

I think your eyes are being tricked by the angle and the straight banner from the "mobile ready" thing.

Fair enough, appreciate the demonstration. Damn, why did they have to make it also an optical illusion.

[Merryck]

Lefthand side, middle of the screen. Cracks spiderweb out but on the bottom they curl with the artwork. I also think the crack is going off the phone screen there as well, but that could just be low resolution.

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Look at the hands on that lightning dwarf. The staff isn't even aligned with itself. This is an exceptional leak, but they've clearly used AI in this instance so it's almost certainly fake.