The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

This one. Surely this is enough to discredit this leak.
@Rathwell @Sondrelk

Well the dwarf doesn't look anything like the first picture, and the second is just an earthen with weird proportions due to bad Photoshop.
The similarities basically start and end with stone dwarves.

[Santandame]

Well the dwarf doesn't look anything like the first picture, and the second is just an earthen with weird proportions due to bad Photoshop.
The similarities basically start and end with stone dwarves.

I’m talking about the desert picture, look in the background. Hang on I’ll find the enhanced image.

[blaatschaap]

If nothing else, it'll be fun to look back on this in 8 days

[Santandame]

Good analysis.

It could be faked, yes, but at this point I'm thinking it isn't. This would be an insane amount of work for a fake, even more than the Stormwind Harbor "leaked cinematic" with all the ghost ships. Like a hundred times more effort and time.

Only thing I'm put off by is this tree. It looks so low-res compared to everything else.



Wait a minute...

Enhance!



Why does the guy in the background look exactly like the Agg'orand creature from the website leak? Even has the same red tattoos on their chest and arms!

@Sondrelk

This is what I was referring to. Not the Dwarf from the snowy screenshot.

[Rathwell]

This one. Surely this is enough to discredit this leak.
@Rathwell @Sondrelk

Perhaps that leak is legit as well? It really aligns with the screenshots just released by the descriptions. Khaz Algar being mountain craigs, and Agg'orand being a desert plateau filled with those Agg'ora creatures

Why was this leak dismissed initially?

Honestly, all this did was make me believe both leaks.

[DarkAmbient]

Good analysis.

It could be faked, yes, but at this point I'm thinking it isn't. This would be an insane amount of work for a fake, even more than the Stormwind Harbor "leaked cinematic" with all the ghost ships. Like a hundred times more effort and time.

Only thing I'm put off by is this tree. It looks so low-res compared to everything else.



Wait a minute...

Enhance!



Why does the guy in the background look exactly like the Agg'orand creature from the website leak? Even has the same red tattoos on their chest and arms!

LOL. That figure in the background seals the deal for me, fake as fuck.

[Auxis]

It seems like Avaloren would be the very first location that's entirely made up in WoW lore, am I right?

I think Shadowlands, and definitely Zereth Mortis might be the first original locations to WoW.

[Delever]

"People thought this real leak was fake, so every leak has to be real and people can't have arguments for why it might be fake!"

This one person who apparently is everyone doesn't even have a point. It's just the same wishy-washy "Oh, it doesn't feel right!" non-sense you get here.

Meanwhile, the Avaloren leak has a lot of red flags. The guy who posted the images clearly also posted the text leak beforehand, seeing how it has the exact same zones. However, that text post mentions reworking existing specs, which will not happen.

The ogre looking dude in the Avaloren photo is also the same creature from the mobile leak, which has a lot of issues as well, namely with the dwarf.

People can have arguments as to how it might be fake. The annoying thing is that people post these arguments with absolute certainty, sometimes even being snarky asses about how people are dumb to consider this possible when we have seen in the past that things can and have been leaked in similar manners.
I m also not sold 100% on this leak but it seems possible. I m also connecting it to a d4 leak that said the name of the expansion is SoA and got Nahantu right before it was changed by blizzard.

[Santandame]

Perhaps that leak is legit as well? It really aligns with the screenshots just released by the descriptions. Khaz Algar being mountain craigs, and Agg'orand being a desert plateau filled with those Agg'ora creatures

Why was this leak dismissed initially?

- The art behind Avaloren on the website looking exactly the same as the Dragon Isles art.
- The proportions of the Aggorand Dwarf, mainly it’s hands.
- The use of British English spelling as opposed to American English.

I’m sure there were more.

[caliphax]

I think Shadowlands, and definitely Zereth Mortis might be the first original locations to WoW.

Was Zandalar mentioned prior to WoW?

[micwini]

Like using the same Dwarf/Ogre model in one of the pictures as another leak which was ripped apart by literally everyone in this thread for all the red flags it had?

What ogre? I know what other leak you mean, that one was obviously not it. But I don't see an ogre in any of the 4 images.

[Santandame]

I think Shadowlands, and definitely Zereth Mortis might be the first original locations to WoW.

- Highmountain
- Val’sharrah
- Stormheim
- Aszuna

Prior to Legion reveal, the Broken Isles were nothing more than a few rocky, sea battered islands with the most noticeable isle being the one that housed the Tomb of Sargeras (later known as the Broken Shore).

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What ogre? I know what other leak you mean, that one was obviously not it. But I don't see an ogre in any of the 4 images.

See a few posts above.

[Mace]

"People thought this real leak was fake, so every leak has to be real and people can't have arguments for why it might be fake!"

This one person who apparently is everyone doesn't even have a point. It's just the same wishy-washy "Oh, it doesn't feel right!" non-sense you get here.

Meanwhile, the Avaloren leak has a lot of red flags. The guy who posted the images clearly also posted the text leak beforehand, seeing how it has the exact same zones. However, that text post mentions reworking existing specs, which will not happen.

The ogre looking dude in the Avaloren photo is also the same creature from the mobile leak, which has a lot of issues as well, namely with the dwarf.

Sometimes when I see arguments that this must be a fan edit or fan made, I think to myself, you don't give the fan enough credit or you think to highly of blizz. Most models we have are derived from other models, there is a similarity, most logs have a similarity to old ones, ti's the way they are similar or different that is more telling, and that's not to account for the fact that many of the times the leak image might be an unfinished product due several more iterations before the presentation and certainly before release.

If past leaks are anything to go by, the genuine leak is already out and we already know some of the core information of the new expansion. currently my money is on the picture and that guy that said Silvermoon harbour has a statue of Lor'themar and Thalyssra - although I thought "God no", let this one be fake. it has just the right amount of disappointment and mystery .. points I don't like or agree with but would be okay with , and what I have come to expect... but 1 week to go, we shall see.

[locketto]

Second expansion in a row with Dragons, Titan Keeper(s) and Elementals in forgotten island would be an overkill. Thats it.

2017

[Sondrelk]

@Sondrelk

This is what I was referring to. Not the Dwarf from the snowy screenshot.

Definitely interesting.
Would certainly underline that both were made by the same person. Both are definitely high quality.

My hope for a world revamp has once again been rekindled.

[Nightshade711]

This leak is CLEARLY fake!!
There’s no thrall undermine tinkers!

[micwini]

Okay, let us operate on the assumption that the pictures are legit. But only the pictures. Not the boring text leak or the website.
What else can there be? BfA came with two new continents, so this might not even be the full playable area.

What else? Race? Class? Stuff that gets abandoned next expansion? Evergreen content?

I mean yeah features would be in there. But the last feature trailer was also very light on content (SL). They had to stretch the time of the video by announcing each zone instead of the continent(s) like usual.
I just cannot see this being fake. I have the "this is it" feeling the same way I had with the Bolvar gearstore image and the dracthyr pictures.

[Nyel]

I think Shadowlands, and definitely Zereth Mortis might be the first original locations to WoW.

We knew about the Realm of Shadows for a very long time though (since Vanilla?).

[vintage79]

This is how they can completely remake Survival Hunter for the xth time so that everybody hates it again.

yeap - I haven't played SV since Mop ;/

[Rathwell]

I just cannot see this being fake. I have the "this is it" feeling the same way I had with the Bolvar gearstore image and the dracthyr pictures.

Yeah, I've seen a lot of fakes in my time but this is the first one I'm willing to double down on. This definitely has a "This is it" feel.