1. #3481
    Yet another Pirate/New World-vibes set, perhaps a hint at Avaloren being some sort of Pirates x Light Conquistadors x Exotic Western continent/patch/expansion?
    It might be nothing, but "odd" promo mounts and sets of SL and previous expansions were relevant to what came next.


  2. #3482
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    The old gods were always “mountains of flesh”

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    Mountain size see above.
    According to the Titans, they are mountains of flesh upon their Creation.

    You didn't prove anything, there's no evidence the Titans are right.

  3. #3483
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Yet another Pirate/New World-vibes set, perhaps a hint at Avaloren being some sort of Pirate x Light Conquistadors x Exotic Western continent/patch/expansion?
    It might be nothing, but "odd" promo mounts and sets of SL and previous expansions were relevant to what came next.

    Interesting concept—I've seen people complain about the aesthetic of that armor, but I personally think it looks nice (although the model obviously distorts it significantly, which is probably why some have reacted with revulsion—female Draenei have very exaggerated shapes that don't lend themselves well to detailed armor).

    A Conquistador-themed Alliance expedition would be very enjoyable. I'd like to see that be exploited and put into play. I could see the Alliance's new order playing into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    According to the Titans, they are mountains of flesh upon their Creation.

    You didn't prove anything, there's no evidence the Titans are right.
    Chronicles is canon until contradicted every thing in it is right until blizzard says other wise.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Interesting concept—I've seen people complain about the aesthetic of that armor, but I personally think it looks nice (although the model obviously distorts it significantly, which is probably why some have reacted with revulsion—female Draenei have very exaggerated shapes that don't lend themselves well to detailed armor).

    A Conquistador-themed Alliance expedition would be very enjoyable. I'd like to see that be exploited and put into play. I could see the Alliance's new order playing into that.
    I for one absolutely LOVE this set. It's giving me mousquetaire with a bard flair! As for any conquistador-inspired faction... I believe it would have to be an antagonist, and it would fit the Scarlet Crusade even better. Maybe Avaloren has been shored/invaded by the Scarlet Crusade as previously discussed on this thread and when the Horde and Alliance find out, they go help the locals... only to discover there's more to it. *laughs in Old God corruption*



    I cannot tell you how much of an absolute win that hat is. I. LOVE. IT.

  6. #3486
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    There's also no way an irl planet would survive getting stabbed by giant satanic space sword so I don't know why you would ever think Azeroth follows irl logic.
    Actually, that probably wouldn't destroy a real planet any more than it did Azeroth. Destroying planets is hard. Even if you split off a piece, unless you can get it to escape velocity, it'll just fall back after a while.

  7. #3487
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    I for one absolutely LOVE this set. It's giving me mousquetaire with a bard flair! As for any conquistador-inspired faction... I believe it would have to be an antagonist, and it would fit the Scarlet Crusade even better. Maybe Avaloren has been shored/invaded by the Scarlet Crusade as previously discussed on this thread and when the Horde and Alliance find out, they go help the locals... only to discover there's more to it. *laughs in Old God corruption*



    I cannot tell you how much of an absolute win that hat is. I. LOVE. IT.
    From multiple perspectives, and on a human, this set looks very nice. It appeals to a certain appreciation for that particular era and its aesthetics—besides, with WoW's time period becoming so awkwardly inconsistent in terms of aesthetics, it would be nice to sort of concretely slot humanity into this kind of late renaissance/early colonial aesthetic (mid-industrial Gilneas not withstanding). Maybe it would work for Stormwind in particular, since it would keep them more aesthetically-consistent with Kul Tiras and Gilneas?

    Pedro de Alvarado is one of my favorite underrated historical gamers (and believe me, he did game), so a villain inspired by him would be very appealing to me. Conquistador-themed Scarlet Crusaders would be an interesting way to keep them fresh instead of reusing them with slight alterations for the fifth time in a row. Wonder what they'd be called, since they'd likely be fairly well-established on Avaloren by the time the expansion begins—the Crimson Colonies? Scarlet Commonwealth? Order-State of Old Avalon?
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  8. #3488
    Would never use the entire mog but I am interested on the chest, cloak and belt

  9. #3489
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Chronicles is canon until contradicted every thing in it is right until blizzard says other wise.
    No, what is Canon is that Chronicles was written from the Titans' perspective. FROM THE TITANS' PERSPECTIVE, the Old Gods were already mountains of flesh. This is by no means ultimate evidence since the Titans are not omniscient. You didn't prove anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    No, what is Canon is that Chronicles was written from the Titans' perspective. FROM THE TITANS' PERSPECTIVE, the Old Gods were already mountains of flesh. This is by no means ultimate evidence since the Titans are not omniscient. You didn't prove anything.
    Sorry but the canon source of info doesn’t care about your fanfic, there mountain sized until blizzard puts out newer lore saying other wise just as wows lore has always worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Sorry but the canon source of info doesn’t care about your fanfic, there mountain sized until blizzard puts out newer lore saying other wise just as wows lore has always worked.
    Chronicles are written from the point of view of the Titans and this is Canon, the Titans are not omniscient and this is Canon, you did not prove a single thing, and this is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Chronicles are written from the point of view of the Titans and this is Canon, the Titans are not omniscient and this is Canon, you did not prove a single thing, and this is a fact.
    Let’s make this real simple, post the lore that backs up your idea that they aren’t mountain sized on impact.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  13. #3493
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Let’s make this real simple, post the lore that backs up your idea that they aren’t mountain sized on impact.
    I didn't say they aren't mountain-sized on impact, I said there's no evidence they are continental-sized, and you didn't provide any proof of the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    I didn't say they aren't mountain-sized on impact, I said there's no evidence they are continental-sized, and you didn't provide any proof of the contrary.
    So nothing got it.

    So to be clear it’s canon lore against your fan fic, and this is a fact.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  15. #3495
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    So nothing got it.

    So to be clear it’s canon lore against your fan fic, and this is a fact.
    Yep, nothing, because you have not provided a single bit of evidence for anything.

    All you've done is present your headcanon in which the Titans are omniscient and know how big the Old Gods were during the creation process which they never even witnessed themselves.

    Your headcanon is cute, sadly, it's not what I was asking for (official evidence, not your headcanon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Yep, nothing, because you have not provided a single bit of evidence for anything.

    All you've done is present your headcanon in which the Titans are omniscient and know how big the Old Gods were during the creation process which they never even witnessed themselves.

    Your headcanon is cute, sadly, it's not what I was asking for (official evidence, not your headcanon).
    I’ve linked a canon source of lore made and backed by blizzard, you have just made up what you want to be true.

    One of us is using head canon and it’s not me.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  17. #3497
    As I understand it the Chronicles are a limited perspective that can't be taken at face value.

  18. #3498
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    I’ve linked a canon source of lore made and backed by blizzard, you have just made up what you want to be true.

    One of us is using head canon and it’s not me.
    It is Canon that the Titans believe Old Gods were created as mountains of flesh.

    That's it.

    It's your headcanon to think that the Titans are omniscient and this is the truth. This is what the Titans believe, period. Blizzard stated that everything in the Chronicles is solely from the Titans' perspective, period.

    There is no evidence the Old Gods were created as mountains of flesh, there is only evidence that the Titans believe this to be the case.

    Anything else is your fanfic and nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    It is Canon that the Titans believe Old Gods were created as mountains of flesh.

    That's it.

    It's your headcanon to think that the Titans are omniscient and this is the truth. This is what the Titans believe, period. Blizzard stated that everything in the Chronicles is solely from the Titans' perspective, period.

    There is no evidence the Old Gods were created as mountains of flesh, there is only evidence that the Titans believe this to be the case.

    Anything else is your fanfic and nothing more.
    I’m sorry you don’t know how wow lore works but no matter how much you try your fanfic will never beat the canon.
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    I am really reading someone assuming that the Old Gods that are sent through fucking space aren't big enough to be able to impact terrestrial bodies.
    I no longer reply to quotations beyond if you're asking a genuine question or have a non-confrontational stance.


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