The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sentynel]

Okay, so now that WoWhead has reported on the "new continent" leak, I'm ready to say it was fake. WoWhead wouldn't spotlight a real leak.

Are you sure?

This was Shadowlands
https://www.wowhead.com/news/bolvar-...pansion-295873

And this was Dragonflight
https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonf...ulation-326710

[PotHockets]

"Dwarf is not a warcraft theme"
Right...

On a totally unrelated note one thing I would LOOOOOOVE to see for the anniversary is an updated version of that cinematic. That would be pretty awesome.

[allegrian]

It's 100% fake. There's no way they go from Elf -> Dwarf theme. The day WoW has a dwarf theme will be more embarrassing than Dracthyr, and fake. Dwarf is not a Warcraft theme, sorry. Orc, Troll, Undead, Human, Ogre, Elvish, Dragons (sigh), all are. But, but Magni and the Bronzebeards!! Exactly, people really don't like the times dwarves have taken charge of the reins, even briefly. I'm sorry there's just no way. To go from Arthas, Illidan, Thrall, and even Sylv, and Dragons, to overarching dwarf prototagnism? No way. Dwarves are dated and too close to being the straight, white cismen of video games to be a good choice. Dwarves centerfocus =fake expac

Dwarves are one of the main themes in vanilla, one of the most loved "expansions", with ironforge and dark iron dwarves in Black Rock Depths, one of the most loved dungeons in the game. They are also featured in Ulduar, one of the most loved raids. They have been criminally underrepresented since Ulduar, while we got orcs, orcs and more orcs and then Night Elves everywhere. Human and Gnomes where underrepresented until BFA, now only the dwarves remain in need for some love.

[SloidVoid]

Based on the leak, it's not immediately attention grabbing. I'd really need to know what features would be added to change my mind on it being a skip for me.

[Wangming]

Every K'aresh denial is a dagger pressed against my cosmic heart

Welcome to the club, bro

[Fahrad Wagner]

Perhaps, but I have a sinking suspicion that there won’t be too many players enthused about going to yet another mysterious, primordial continent for the second expansion in a row. Especially a mysterious primordial continent with no major character to hook us to that location. At least with the dragon isles we had Alex, Nozdurmu, Chromie, Kalecgos, and Wrathion.

What do we have here? Odyn? Who cares about Odyn?

Teriz has a strong point.

[Hitei]

Every K'aresh denial is a dagger pressed against my cosmic heart

They will learn in time.

[Woggmer]

Also Dwarves are one of the few races that have always been pretty universally loved.

Yeah, because they're the most consistent race while still trying to be interesting.

[Azalar]

Teriz has a strong point.

And one that doesn't require pages and pages of arguing, I would say.

[Teriz]

Well said.

I currently believe this is the real deal as well. And although people here bring up good arguments against it, it does come eerily close to those Dracthyr debunk attempts.

Remember when we were comparing dinosaur textures from MoP and BfA to the Dracthyr skin textures to prove that they were edits? Yeah...

Except this isn’t anywhere close to the Dracthyr situation. If we look at the Dragonflight leak, it was pretty rock solid, with the Alexstraza art and the logo, and the domain popping up soon after. Game. Set. Match.

On the other hand, people still denied that the Dracthyr were real even after Blizzard officially announced them. So yeah, the irrational hate towards Dracthyr is nothing like what’s being leveled at these leaks in this thread.

[Catastrophy349]

I don't understand all of the "crazy people" freaking out over this "leak?" It's actually nuts.

[PotHockets]

Every K'aresh denial is a dagger pressed against my cosmic heart

The dream of a K'aresh expansion with playable Ethereals lives on. I refuse to accept that it won't happen eventually.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Except this isn’t anywhere close to the Dracthyr situation. If we look at the Dragonflight leak, it was pretty rock solid, with the Alexstraza art and the logo, and the domain popping up soon after. Game. Set. Match.

On the other hand, people still denied that the Dracthyr were real even after Blizzard officially announced them. So yeah, the irrational hate towards Dracthyr is nothing like what’s being leveled at these leaks in this thread.

I remember the crosswords puzzle with dracthyr, that was fun

[Hitei]

Teriz has a strong point.

It's less strong when you realize that the other half of his argument is turning around and pretending the playerbase would be ecstatic about a goblin continent.

[PotHockets]

Teriz has a strong point.

Yeah idk about that. I think there is a decently sizeable portion of the playerbase itching to kill Odyn.

[ercarp]

Teriz has a strong point.

Indeed. I'm not going full doomer over this potentially being real as I think I'll still get some enjoyment out of Avaloren, but that said... I would have preferred a setting that has existed in the lore for longer than a year.

Like, why can't we go to Tel'Abim? They could retcon it from being a small wacky banana island to being the Hozen homeland filled with tons of cool lore and a unique aesthetic.

[Azalar]

Yeah idk about that. I think there is a decently sizeable portion of the playerbase itching to kill Odyn.

If going against the Titans involves killing Odyn, then hell yeah, Iridikron has no enough space in the cosmos to hide from me pretending to join him.

[Izalla]

Also for anyone who isn't familiar with Tomkek and wants to see the making of a fan project that perfectly matches the game, check this out:



He remakes lots of mounts, weapons, and even armour sets.

[Nibelheimy]

Perhaps, but I have a sinking suspicion that there won’t be too many players enthused about going to yet another mysterious, primordial continent for the second expansion in a row. Especially a mysterious primordial continent with no major character to hook us to that location. At least with the dragon isles we had Alex, Nozdurmu, Chromie, Kalecgos, and Wrathion.

What do we have here? Odyn? Who cares about Odyn?

Strange take considering most people seem to have disliked 4/5 of those characters contributions to DF, and the stars of the show so to speak of DF are 3 primal incarnates that didn't exist at all before this expansion.

Here you possibly have Elune, Odyn, Eonar, and presumably Iridikron + Xal'Atath. Do I think a location needs to be tied to old lore characters? No. Pandaria was great.

[Polybius]

Based on the leak, it's not immediately attention grabbing. I'd really need to know what features would be added to change my mind on it being a skip for me.

And now we wait...

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