The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Mace]

Well it certainly looks convincing enough. Definitely not purely AI that's for sure.

If they are real, no offense, they look a bit boring after dragonflight.. think of WotLK, TBC, WoD, Legion, SL and to a lesser extent MoP and BFA - look at how very different those landscapes looked like. they felt new, these feel rehashed, not very exciting. But we'll see, it really depends if it's real and if real, what's in it.

[Sondrelk]

There is no way that is fake. World revampers skip to 12.0 FeelsOkayMan

Depends on your tolerance for high quality leaks. The harpy model is the one I am most impressed by, but the zones could all be derivatives of existing zone palettes.
Tiragarde for top one, then Frostfire, Vol'dun, and finally Zuldazar.

How likely is hard to say, but it's possible. Certainly even more so when you consider everyone just being tired of blatant AI leaks.

[Wangming]

If they are real, no offense, they look a bit boring after dragonflight.. think of WotLK, TBC, WoD, Legion, SL and to a lesser extent MoP and BFA - look at how very different those landscapes looked like. they felt new, these feel rehashed, not very exciting. But we'll see, it really depends if it's real and if real, what's in it.

What I dislike in the Avaloren leak is that it kinda feels like a pokemon continent. Here are different biomes for all the different badges.
And of course they go with all the vanilla ones instead of dark, ghost and fairy.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

The post from this person and the point about some specs turning into support specs... I hate that if it will be true.

Still it's something to wait and see but on the paper new specs instead of turning existing specs to support just sounds better..

[blaatschaap]

I'm almost sure it's a fake now. Went back and checked out almost all previous announce and feature trailers, none of them had the new zone/continent name even in a different color from the "new zone/continent" header, let alone have the new continent name have some glow effect. They are remarkably consistent when it comes to visual uniformity of the on screen text in the promo material

[Valysar]

Depends on your tolerance for high quality leaks. The harpy model is the one I am most impressed by, but the zones could all be derivatives of existing zone palettes.
Tiragarde for top one, then Frostfire, Vol'dun, and finally Zuldazar.

How likely is hard to say, but it's possible. Certainly even more so when you consider everyone just being tired of blatant AI leaks.

That's what I was going to say.

This one is very believable, but it looks like a "déjà-vu" (but it coincides with the leak above for the 4 zones)

[Sondrelk]

What I dislike in the Avaloren leak is that it kinda feels like a pokemon continent. Here are different biomes for all the different badges.
And of course they go with all the vanilla ones instead of dark, ghost and fairy.

It would fit with what I expect will be the general consensus. That this is the waiting room expansion until 12.0 finally has the revamp.

[Yus atath]

I dont think the Avaloren screenshots are real. The zone reveals all happen to have an inhabitant posing on the side of the screen? Yeah, Screams fake to me.

[Makorus]

The post from this person and the point about some specs turning into support specs... I hate that if it will be true.

Still it's something to wait and see but on the paper new specs instead of turning existing specs to support just sounds better..

Blizz literally said they are not gonna transform existing specs.

[Lady Atia]

I'm almost sure it's a fake now. Went back and checked out almost all previous announce and feature trailers, none of them had the new zone/continent name even in a different color from the "new zone/continent" header, let alone have the new continent name have some glow effect. They are remarkably consistent when it comes to visual uniformity of the on screen text in the promo material

Remember when people were sure the Dragonflight logo was fake "because it wasn't like old logos and they are remarkably consistent when it comes to visual uniformity of their logos".

We are in the era of NewBlizzard!, if a person on the marketing team wants to use some new flashy glow effects they are allowed to ...

[Wangming]

It would fit with what I expect will be the general consensus. That this is the waiting room expansion until 12.0 finally has the revamp.

Two flops in a row followed by two filler expansion?
Who the fuck will care about 12.0 at that point?

[Myrrh]

The post from this person and the point about some specs turning into support specs... I hate that if it will be true.

Still it's something to wait and see but on the paper new specs instead of turning existing specs to support just sounds better..

The same person claimed later claimed to see a 'support spec shaman' which, after saying 'no new specs', would point to enhance. I daresay the enhance community would swiftly return to the bus shock era if the devs pulled a survival hunter on them, particularly after Ion's comments.

Ergo I would say that particular leak is unreliable in spite of the similarities to these images.

[Makorus]

I am surprised this forum hates Zereth Mortis so much, all you guys do is talk about non-existant patterns.

[Wangming]

The post from this person and the point about some specs turning into support specs... I hate that if it will be true.

I wouldn't mind that for classes with redundant specs. Like Rogue. But a 4th spec would probably be better even with the balancing issues.

[caliphax]

I am surprised this forum hates Zereth Mortis so much, all you guys do is talk about non-existant patterns.

I don't know you. But I love you.

[Santandame]

Slight correction. The year of Legion literally everyone knew what was going to be shown on that Blizzcon as Legion was already announced a few months earlier over on Gamescom...

Touché.

Replace Blizzcon with Gamescom for Legion. Either way, going into Legion reveal no one had any idea and the Legion leak we had hadn’t even come up on anyone’s radar. No one was discussing it for there to be denial surrounding it.

[micwini]

I'm almost sure it's a fake now. Went back and checked out almost all previous announce and feature trailers, none of them had the new zone/continent name even in a different color from the "new zone/continent" header, let alone have the new continent name have some glow effect. They are remarkably consistent when it comes to visual uniformity of the on screen text in the promo material

Not true. Also the font for the continent is the same as the one for BFA. So BFA font + SL coloring.

[Myrrh]

It would fit with what I expect will be the general consensus. That this is the waiting room expansion until 12.0 finally has the revamp.

I would not be surprised if it was a WoD/Legion scenario. I remember them saying that they faced a bit of a fork in the road as to what order to pursue those expansions. Might be similar - with a decision early in the relative development cycle of 11.0 (pre-DF) to pivot to Avaloren and let the revamp cook a bit more. This would explain only having DF content to build up Avaloren instead of a bit more of a lead in. The expansion itself probably wouldn't suffer in quality, just the player sense of 'where did this come from?'

I dont think the Avaloren screenshots are real. The zone reveals all happen to have an inhabitant posing on the side of the screen? Yeah, Screams fake to me.

I mean, this would not be out of character at all. See SL features video for example. edit: micwini beat me to it

[Dnusha]

Remember when people were sure the Dragonflight logo was fake "because it wasn't like old logos and they are remarkably consistent when it comes to visual uniformity of their logos".

"Bro these dragons look like they are fan made lmao"

[Teriz]

"Second expansion in a row with demons after 460 days in Tanaan Jungle would be overkill. That's it."

People didn't wanna believe in Legion either, let's not forget that.

Difference being that we were going back to Azeroth, getting Demon Hunters, and seeing Illidan again. It was the long awaited Burning Legion invasion.

This here looks like Dragon Isles all over again.